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Post by stokemark on Dec 7, 2017 10:38:11 GMT
So long as it isn't 'city of multi-culture' eh Roger ?
So long as it all meets your warped criteria then we will all be the better for it. Left the house recently ?
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Post by felonious on Dec 7, 2017 13:08:38 GMT
The garden festival was ok was it not. It transformed the area and left the city with another piece of green space. I felt the garden festival and the tranformation of the site were both really good. But I was very disappointed that it became a retail park afterwards as with all the green space, the canal, the cable car, etc I felt it could have become a very attractive leisure area which people from both within the city and without could have visited and enjoyed. Instead, it became what it is. What it is was explained to me a few years back by an Arsenal steward at the Emirates. She'd been to the festival park with the family, stayed at the Moathouse and used the facilities at Waterworld. From the base they'd had a day out at Alton Towers and didn't have a bad word to say about Stoke.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 7, 2017 14:03:35 GMT
As I intimated earlier, I'd have been much happier for there to be less retail & office space, and to have seen the outdoor & indoor leisure side of things ramped up considerable more to become something of a tourist attraction rather than just another retail park which is the same as so many others up and down the country. I would love SoT to have done something different, rather than produce a 'me too'. Anyway, that's all I've got to say about it. I hope we get the City of Culture although suspect from the ramping in the likes of the Guardian today, Coventry will win it. " The mayor of the West Midlands, the former John Lewis boss Andy Street, said he hoped the country would look a new at Coventry, the birthplace of Philip Larkin, if it won. This will force a re-examination and the truth will come out,” he said, adding that a vote for Coventry would be one for the Midlands as a whole. Street believes the award would be an endorsement of community diversity at a time of growing divisions across the country – pointing out that 27% of the city’s residents were born outside the UK" Ggoooaaaarnn Stoke.I'm guessing it had to pay for itself eventually so a retail entertainment area it was. We're upgrading the Hanley parks through Shelton for the walk in the park brigade. Even Trentham gardens charges for a walk around the lake.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 7, 2017 14:08:13 GMT
So long as it isn't 'city of multi-culture' eh Roger ? So long as it all meets your warped criteria then we will all be the better for it. Left the house recently ? Bit harsh :-) And for your information I get day release every third Thursday whether I need it or not.
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Post by haway on Dec 7, 2017 16:22:35 GMT
There's good reason to think Swansea will win it.
Still, I hope we shit on the opposition.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 7, 2017 16:40:19 GMT
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Post by Northy on Dec 7, 2017 17:09:57 GMT
Transformed Europes biggest industrial wasteland into a green space and then what there is today, leisure and business, so yes, like the garden festival was. Canal boat marina. Retail absolutely rammed most days. Odeon cine complex. Moat House hotel. Dry ski slope nearby. but what has the garden festival site ever done for us
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Post by felonious on Dec 7, 2017 17:25:42 GMT
Canal boat marina. Retail absolutely rammed most days. Odeon cine complex. Moat House hotel. Dry ski slope nearby. but what has the garden festival site ever done for us Given some the opportunity to moan about something elde
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 7, 2017 17:43:25 GMT
Have we won yet? When's the decision?
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Post by haway on Dec 7, 2017 19:19:38 GMT
The thread on the RTG forum is very active on it mind.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Dec 7, 2017 19:28:01 GMT
Bloody Coventry. 😣
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Dec 7, 2017 19:28:18 GMT
Coventry beats Stoke
Let's hope it's not a taste of things to come.
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Post by pretzel on Dec 7, 2017 19:28:21 GMT
So it's Coventry, no surprise there then
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Post by boothenboy75 on Dec 7, 2017 19:30:28 GMT
Used to spend a lot of time in Cov, and if theres a city in need of more of a hand than our own, then it's that shit hole.
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Post by kentpotter on Dec 7, 2017 19:32:46 GMT
COVENTRY?
So Stoke-on-Trent gets ignored again?
If only we'd thought of a tart on a horse instead of pottery and the Spitfire!
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Dec 7, 2017 19:33:50 GMT
That’s one song sorted for the cup tie: City of Culyure your having a laugh............🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 19:38:23 GMT
Got to say I’m a bit gutted.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 19:45:14 GMT
Got to say I’m a bit gutted. Me too, would have been the shot in the arm the city needs and I think they ran a decent campaign as well. Disappointing......
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Post by steino1966 on Dec 7, 2017 19:52:55 GMT
2025 it is then 😂
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Post by felonious on Dec 7, 2017 19:57:47 GMT
Oh well at least we're still the Brexit capital of Britain.
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Post by felonious on Dec 7, 2017 19:59:07 GMT
The thread on the RTG forum is very active on it mind. Better let us have a link, the last thread I read on there was ace and we need cheering up
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Post by Cast no shadow on Dec 7, 2017 20:01:36 GMT
Hull have prospered from theirs, shame we lost out, it’d have given the city the boost it needs.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 7, 2017 20:02:41 GMT
Shame, hopefully it's not the end of the city getting some good things and publicity
I do think the added focus on oatcakes, stanley matthews and the accent was the wrong way to go, but Coventry have won now so it's for a different day.
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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 7, 2017 20:32:49 GMT
Just a thought, I am bitterly disappointed in the result, given that one of my best friends has being working on the SOT COC for years at a high level, isnt it about time that we as a city said a big "FUCK YOU WE ARE GREAT"? lets have some local pride, lets move together and make SOT great again!
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Post by kentpotter on Dec 7, 2017 22:07:49 GMT
COVENTRY?
So Stoke-on-Trent area ignored again!
If only we'd had a tart on a horse and not pots and Spitfires eh?
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Post by bassmaster on Dec 7, 2017 22:13:19 GMT
Hall and Dammers v Williams and his ‘mate’. No contest.
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Post by kentpotter on Dec 7, 2017 22:33:38 GMT
Hall and Dammers v Williams and his ‘mate’. No contest. Oh, thought it was about more than music? Bennett, Mitchel, Matthews, Wedgwood et al vs Larking? Pleeeaase!
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Post by eddyclamp on Dec 7, 2017 22:39:13 GMT
Well done Coventry, out of the 6 shitholes that made the final you were the biggest.
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Post by onesteino on Dec 7, 2017 22:52:40 GMT
Gutted we didn't win. Been right hacked off seeing a load of negative comments about Stoke, by locals, online. Still, if some bell ends can't support one of their local teams then there's no way they'll support anything else positive for the city. Well done to Coventry, would love to have won it. Just hope we stuff them in the cup now.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 7, 2017 22:58:56 GMT
I didn't realise the result was today until this afternoon. I'm disappointed (and from N-u-L) - it would've been good to see more positive stuff going on, and more positive media coverage. Every Coventry official I heard today mentioned The Blitz, and how they've recovered from it - whereas the Stoke-related people I heard focused more on the positives. We could have mentioned the war, the pits, the decline of the pottery industry, having to put up with Robbie etc. Have Coventry really won it because they were so heavily bombed? I only saw minimal coverage so I've no idea. After all that talk about The Blitz, one Coventry woman said "people always look down on Coventry" and I thought "yeah, just like the German bombers in WWII!" P.S. I was also joking about putting up with Williams. I guess it'll go to a Welsh or Scottish city next. Hull have prospered from theirs, shame we lost out, it’d have given the city the boost it needs. It hasn't been all roses for Hull though - that's what the media seemed to want to portray in the news coverage I saw today. Apparently quite a few businesses closed in the 2 years prior to 2017, due to the 'regeneration' that was going on and negatively affecting businesses. I've found these in a quick Google: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/analysis/hull-s-shops-counting-the-cost-of-city-centre-revamp-1-8090074www.itv.com/news/calendar/2016-09-01/one-in-three-shops-stand-empty-on-hulls-whitefriargate-ahead-of-city-of-culture-year/I could imagine the same happening around these parts, so I hope whoever is in charge of any future City of Culture learn from the previous cities.
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