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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Sept 30, 2018 16:50:01 GMT
1) No one in science claims that the big bang was an explosion in the sense that you or i think of one. It's merely presented that way as most don't have the scientific background to be able to understand advanced equations in physics. It's simply a turn of phrase so people can get their hands around it based on things they do understand 2) No one in science ever claimed it made a noise...again, the term big bang is simply a turn of phrase You may want to do some research into the big bang and what it actually was before hanging your hat on 2 massive misunderstandings on your part. Here you go fella..... www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/32278-was-the-big-bang-really-an-explosion.htmlThat’s exactly how they describe it & the following expansion of the universe The key point is there wasn't a bang and then space with everything in it..the sound came from the vibration of particles in the early primordial plasma formed in the early seconds of the universe. It's called Bayron Acoustic Oscillations, and you can still see some of the big bang if you tune out an old TV. Additionally If I remember correctly a low sound propagated through the plasma for around 100,000 years. As the plasma cooled it formed Hydrogen atoms...which formed stars which then die and the fusion creates the others elements of the universe that lead to the creation of nebulas...which clump together to form planets etc.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 30, 2018 16:59:32 GMT
After choosing to follow Stoke you were due one good choice. Space is a vacuum so a big Implosion seems more likely than explosion and as for a big bang, well there is no sound in space as I think this is the correct explanation. "Sound is physical vibration of a medium. Different mediums create different sounds. Vacuum doesn't produce sound because there is nothing to vibrate." So NO big bang then and anyway who made the thing that went bang and the space it was in to go bang in. I believe in a God weather he believes in me is my big doubt, seems he uses me as a voodoo doll when he's bored and takes delight in crushing my hopes and dreams. I'm half convinced he's turning S-O-T into a desert so I have somewhere to wander. Already there is hardly any pubs left to get a decent drink =) 1) No one in science claims that the big bang was an explosion in the sense that you or i think of one. It's merely presented that way as most don't have the scientific background to be able to understand advanced equations in physics. It's simply a turn of phrase so people can get their hands around it based on things they do understand 2) No one in science ever claimed it made a noise...again, the term big bang is simply a turn of phrase You may want to do some research into the big bang and what it actually was before hanging your hat on 2 massive misunderstandings on your part. Here you go fella..... www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/32278-was-the-big-bang-really-an-explosion.htmlI believe the term “big bang” was actually coined by a detractor of the theory in an attempt to ridicule it. It backfired* because the term got co-opted and became the layman’s term for the theory in common usage today. *the word “backfire” here does not refer to the literal failure of a gun or combustion engine, for those who are confused by talk of bangs and such
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 23:12:26 GMT
After choosing to follow Stoke you were due one good choice. Space is a vacuum so a big Implosion seems more likely than explosion and as for a big bang, well there is no sound in space as I think this is the correct explanation. "Sound is physical vibration of a medium. Different mediums create different sounds. Vacuum doesn't produce sound because there is nothing to vibrate." So NO big bang then and anyway who made the thing that went bang and the space it was in to go bang in. I believe in a God weather he believes in me is my big doubt, seems he uses me as a voodoo doll when he's bored and takes delight in crushing my hopes and dreams. I'm half convinced he's turning S-O-T into a desert so I have somewhere to wander. Already there is hardly any pubs left to get a decent drink =) 1) No one in science claims that the big bang was an explosion in the sense that you or i think of one. It's merely presented that way as most don't have the scientific background to be able to understand advanced equations in physics. It's simply a turn of phrase so people can get their hands around it based on things they do understand 2) No one in science ever claimed it made a noise...again, the term big bang is simply a turn of phrase You may want to do some research into the big bang and what it actually was before hanging your hat on 2 massive misunderstandings on your part. Here you go fella..... www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/32278-was-the-big-bang-really-an-explosion.htmlAs NO one was actually there then the research is theory not fact. Steven Hawkins is not, God.
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Post by musik on Sept 30, 2018 23:26:27 GMT
As NO one was actually there then the research is theory not fact. Steven Hawkins is not, God. S Hawking thought the existence of a Big Bang meant there was no Creator involved. He said so himself. But I see the Big Bang in a different way ... like God sneezing or farting ... or throwing particles just for fun or more likely: with a serious plan. But then the "humanists" say, there's is evidence there were lots of "big bangs", but it took a while before one succeeded. If there have been a God, he should have made it on the first attempt. Why? What does that expectation come from??
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 1, 2018 0:46:31 GMT
As NO one was actually there then the research is theory not fact. Steven Hawkins is not, God. S Hawking thought the existence of a Big Bang meant there was no Creator involved. He said so himself. But I see the Big Bang in a different way ... like God sneezing or farting ... or throwing particles just for fun or more likely: with a serious plan. But then the "humanists" say, there's is evidence there were lots of "big bangs", but it took a while before one succeeded. If there have been a God, he should have made it on the first attempt. Why? What does that expectation come from?? Yeah fancy expecting a perfect, all-powerful, inerrant deity to be capable of getting something right first time.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 1, 2018 9:30:22 GMT
1) No one in science claims that the big bang was an explosion in the sense that you or i think of one. It's merely presented that way as most don't have the scientific background to be able to understand advanced equations in physics. It's simply a turn of phrase so people can get their hands around it based on things they do understand 2) No one in science ever claimed it made a noise...again, the term big bang is simply a turn of phrase You may want to do some research into the big bang and what it actually was before hanging your hat on 2 massive misunderstandings on your part. Here you go fella..... www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/32278-was-the-big-bang-really-an-explosion.htmlAs NO one was actually there then the research is theory not fact. Steven Hawkins is not, God.
Fully aware of that, simply pointing out that your criticism of "The Big Bang" is based 100% on nothing other than you completely misunderstanding it.
If you're going to dismiss a theory then it helps if you actually have the first clue about it....and at least it is a theory i.e. it has evidence to back it up rather than your fairytale based on literally nothing factual whatsoever I presume you're therefore saying God isn't fact as apparently it's only a theory unless someone is there to actually see him? Kinda fucked up your own argument there really haven't you
P.S. who is Steven Hawkins and what's he got to do with anything?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 10:34:27 GMT
As NO one was actually there then the research is theory not fact. Steven Hawkins is not, God.
Fully aware of that, simply pointing out that your criticism of "The Big Bang" is based 100% on nothing other than you completely misunderstanding it.
If you're going to dismiss a theory then it helps if you actually have the first clue about it....and at least it is a theory i.e. it has evidence to back it up rather than your fairytale based on literally nothing factual whatsoever I presume you're therefore saying God isn't fact as apparently it's only a theory unless someone is there to actually see him? Kinda fucked up your own argument there really haven't you
P.S. who is Steven Hawkins and what's he got to do with anything? When I was a boy the great scientific theory of the day was that if you got under the formica table it would protect you from a nuclear bomb. That was how much the great scientists understood then. You are telling me that those SAME people have progressed to fully understanding how the universe was created......Yeh OK I'll believe ya Theories on Creation are just the current state of understanding and not FACT. The word "God" covers the unknown for me, the Being/Beings that gave our Universe its' creation. Even if that was only to produce one spec of dust then that act is still the creation of a God and not a scientific accident. Steven Hawkins is the epitome of what people who don't want to believe in a creator cling to in order to shore up their position of creation. It's as if many people need an alternative to God because they are afraid of something they cannot comprehend. In a world where we don't know what Stonehenge was for or the Nazca Lines, Carnac Stones or the holes at the Pisco Valley. I would suggest we solve those seemingly easier mysteries before spouting on the big ones.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 1, 2018 10:40:01 GMT
1) No one in science claims that the big bang was an explosion in the sense that you or i think of one. It's merely presented that way as most don't have the scientific background to be able to understand advanced equations in physics. It's simply a turn of phrase so people can get their hands around it based on things they do understand 2) No one in science ever claimed it made a noise...again, the term big bang is simply a turn of phrase You may want to do some research into the big bang and what it actually was before hanging your hat on 2 massive misunderstandings on your part. Here you go fella..... www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/32278-was-the-big-bang-really-an-explosion.htmlAs NO one was actually there then the research is theory not fact. Steven Hawkins is not, God. There was no one around at the time of Genesis, so how did they document that? At least one is backed by plausible maths, theory and calculations.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 1, 2018 10:49:21 GMT
Fully aware of that, simply pointing out that your criticism of "The Big Bang" is based 100% on nothing other than you completely misunderstanding it. If you're going to dismiss a theory then it helps if you actually have the first clue about it....and at least it is a theory i.e. it has evidence to back it up rather than your fairytale based on literally nothing factual whatsoever I presume you're therefore saying God isn't fact as apparently it's only a theory unless someone is there to actually see him? Kinda fucked up your own argument there really haven't you P.S. who is Steven Hawkins and what's he got to do with anything? When I was a boy the great scientific theory of the day was that if you got under the formica table it would protect you from a nuclear bomb. That was how much the great scientists understood then. You are telling me that those SAME people have progressed to fully understanding how the universe was created......Yeh OK I'll believe ya Theories on Creation are just the current state of understanding and not FACT. The word "God" covers the unknown for me, the Being/Beings that gave our Universe its' creation. Even if that was only to produce one spec of dust then that act is still the creation of a God and not a scientific accident. Steven Hawkins is the epitome of what people who don't want to believe in a creator cling to in order to shore up their position of creation. It's as if many people need an alternative to God because they are afraid of something they cannot comprehend. In a world where we don't know what Stonehenge was for or the Nazca Lines, Carnac Stones or the holes at the Pisco Valley. I would suggest we solve those seemingly easier mysteries before spouting on the big ones. Since the Nuclear Bomb we've had Murray Gell-Man, Richard Feynman, Jack Steinburger, Gerard t'Hooft, Sidney Drell the creation of particle colliders, CERN etc. It's not the same people at all, they don't claim to have the full explanation at all, but they have a theory that fits the available evidence and the only plausible theory for Cosmic Background Radiation being present (that is radiation not occurring from any stars or planets but present in the background seemingly without cause) which you can see and hear when you tune out of a radio. That's the point of science, it never actually says, this is the be all and end all, it says this is what we have present at the time. What rational conclusions can we come to from this and how can we prove it and explain it? They're doing a pretty good job in all reality. I'd turn it back on you, and say people need God because they can't face the reality we're not here for any reason and the universe doesn't revolve around us. We're dust on a cosmic boot.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 1, 2018 10:50:38 GMT
Fully aware of that, simply pointing out that your criticism of "The Big Bang" is based 100% on nothing other than you completely misunderstanding it.
If you're going to dismiss a theory then it helps if you actually have the first clue about it....and at least it is a theory i.e. it has evidence to back it up rather than your fairytale based on literally nothing factual whatsoever I presume you're therefore saying God isn't fact as apparently it's only a theory unless someone is there to actually see him? Kinda fucked up your own argument there really haven't you
P.S. who is Steven Hawkins and what's he got to do with anything? When I was a boy the great scientific theory of the day was that if you got under the formica table it would protect you from a nuclear bomb. That was how much the great scientists understood then. You are telling me that those SAME people have progressed to fully understanding how the universe was created......Yeh OK I'll believe ya Theories on Creation are just the current state of understanding and not FACT. The word "God" covers the unknown for me, the Being/Beings that gave our Universe its' creation. Even if that was only to produce one spec of dust then that act is still the creation of a God and not a scientific accident. Steven Hawkins is the epitome of what people who don't want to believe in a creator cling to in order to shore up their position of creation. It's as if many people need an alternative to God because they are afraid of something they cannot comprehend. In a world where we don't know what Stonehenge was for or the Nazca Lines, Carnac Stones or the holes at the Pisco Valley. I would suggest we solve those seemingly easier mysteries before spouting on the big ones. Again, no one in the scientific community has ever claimed to fully understand how the universe was created. Yet another piece of made up bollocks by you (as well as this Steven Hawkins fella you've made up). Amazing how someone can be so against a theory that they clearly know absolutely nothing about whatsoever
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Post by musik on Oct 1, 2018 11:26:38 GMT
S Hawking thought the existence of a Big Bang meant there was no Creator involved. He said so himself. But I see the Big Bang in a different way ... like God sneezing or farting ... or throwing particles just for fun or more likely: with a serious plan. But then the "humanists" say, there's is evidence there were lots of "big bangs", but it took a while before one succeeded. If there have been a God, he should have made it on the first attempt. Why? What does that expectation come from?? Yeah fancy expecting a perfect, all-powerful, inerrant deity to be capable of getting something right first time. "Something" ... As I said, expectations.
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Post by musik on Oct 1, 2018 11:29:02 GMT
There was no one around at the time of Genesis, so how did they document that? Something/Someone was, is and will be around. That's my thoughts of this.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 1, 2018 12:35:01 GMT
Steven Hawkins is the epitome of what people who don't want to believe in a creator cling to in order to shore up their position of creation. It's as if many people need an alternative to God because they are afraid of something they cannot comprehend. This board really needs an irony filter
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Post by musik on Oct 1, 2018 15:06:39 GMT
people need God because they can't face the reality we're not here for any reason and the universe doesn't revolve around us. We're dust on a cosmic boot. 1) Forget about need. It's not 'we' who have a need. It's not about need. Try not to use the human perspective on things like these. I'd suggest meditation for a start. 2) On the contrary. The only real reality is God. Everything else is impermanent, destructible and materialistic. 3) How do you know we aren't here for any reason? What's the materialistic evidence for such an idea? 4) Partly correct! 👍 There are so many universes, and every little single cell in every living thing has got the overwhelming power of the Creator in eternity. 5) Exactly. And we're so important.
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Post by musik on Oct 1, 2018 15:11:10 GMT
I have a daily friendly telepathic dialogue with the Creator.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 1, 2018 15:37:48 GMT
As NO one was actually there then the research is theory not fact. Steven Hawkins is not, God. There was no one around at the time of Genesis, so how did they document that? At least one is backed by plausible maths, theory and calculations. I heard a one about the Judao version of creation recently. It’s all about a nurturing/creator God, as opposed to a destructor God. Most creation story’s are violent in nature, but the Judaic story is not & it depicts the unique loving characteristic of God ✌️
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 1, 2018 16:29:28 GMT
I have a daily friendly telepathic dialogue with the Creator. Well would you mind telepathically asking God if Stoke can actually win a fucking match?
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 1, 2018 16:56:09 GMT
I have a daily friendly telepathic dialogue with the Creator. Well would you mind telepathically asking God if Stoke can actually win a fucking match? Go for a cup at least chig
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 1, 2018 16:59:21 GMT
Well would you mind telepathically asking God if Stoke can actually win a fucking match? Go for a cup at least chig Champions League it is then
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 23:08:57 GMT
When I was a boy the great scientific theory of the day was that if you got under the formica table it would protect you from a nuclear bomb. That was how much the great scientists understood then. You are telling me that those SAME people have progressed to fully understanding how the universe was created......Yeh OK I'll believe ya Theories on Creation are just the current state of understanding and not FACT. The word "God" covers the unknown for me, the Being/Beings that gave our Universe its' creation. Even if that was only to produce one spec of dust then that act is still the creation of a God and not a scientific accident. Steven Hawkins is the epitome of what people who don't want to believe in a creator cling to in order to shore up their position of creation. It's as if many people need an alternative to God because they are afraid of something they cannot comprehend. In a world where we don't know what Stonehenge was for or the Nazca Lines, Carnac Stones or the holes at the Pisco Valley. I would suggest we solve those seemingly easier mysteries before spouting on the big ones. Again, no one in the scientific community has ever claimed to fully understand how the universe was created. Yet another piece of made up bollocks by you (as well as this Steven Hawkins fella you've made up). Amazing how someone can be so against a theory that they clearly know absolutely nothing about whatsoever A theory that claims the universe is expanding and that there was never a big bang. Oh my GOD =) that's so hard to understand, isn't it. Excuse me I must be thick as shit. So in your expanding universe are the gaps between the planets getting bigger or are we just CREATING more planets and finding some more SPACE to put them in. So you accept that NO ONE fully understands the creation of the universe but dismiss the possibility of a God/Gods out of hand. How very one eyed of you. I suggest that you at least keep an open mind as when you come close to death I can assure you God and your Mum is who you will be shouting for.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 23:12:07 GMT
When I was a boy the great scientific theory of the day was that if you got under the formica table it would protect you from a nuclear bomb. That was how much the great scientists understood then. You are telling me that those SAME people have progressed to fully understanding how the universe was created......Yeh OK I'll believe ya Theories on Creation are just the current state of understanding and not FACT. The word "God" covers the unknown for me, the Being/Beings that gave our Universe its' creation. Even if that was only to produce one spec of dust then that act is still the creation of a God and not a scientific accident. Steven Hawkins is the epitome of what people who don't want to believe in a creator cling to in order to shore up their position of creation. It's as if many people need an alternative to God because they are afraid of something they cannot comprehend. In a world where we don't know what Stonehenge was for or the Nazca Lines, Carnac Stones or the holes at the Pisco Valley. I would suggest we solve those seemingly easier mysteries before spouting on the big ones. Since the Nuclear Bomb we've had Murray Gell-Man, Richard Feynman, Jack Steinburger, Gerard t'Hooft, Sidney Drell the creation of particle colliders, CERN etc. It's not the same people at all, they don't claim to have the full explanation at all, but they have a theory that fits the available evidence and the only plausible theory for Cosmic Background Radiation being present (that is radiation not occurring from any stars or planets but present in the background seemingly without cause) which you can see and hear when you tune out of a radio. That's the point of science, it never actually says, this is the be all and end all, it says this is what we have present at the time. What rational conclusions can we come to from this and how can we prove it and explain it? They're doing a pretty good job in all reality. I'd turn it back on you, and say people need God because they can't face the reality we're not here for any reason and the universe doesn't revolve around us. We're dust on a cosmic boot. We're dust on a cosmic boot. Pretty close to what I think actually. I'd liken us more to ants in an ant farm who live oblivious to their universe creator US.
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Post by musik on Oct 2, 2018 0:04:50 GMT
And finally, again:
Don't ask yourself "Do I Believe in God?", but "Do God believe in me?"
That's the only thing to be concerned about.
Peace & Love my friends
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 2, 2018 8:11:37 GMT
Again, no one in the scientific community has ever claimed to fully understand how the universe was created. Yet another piece of made up bollocks by you (as well as this Steven Hawkins fella you've made up). Amazing how someone can be so against a theory that they clearly know absolutely nothing about whatsoever A theory that claims the universe is expanding and that there was never a big bang. Oh my GOD =) that's so hard to understand, isn't it. Excuse me I must be thick as shit. So in your expanding universe are the gaps between the planets getting bigger or are we just CREATING more planets and finding some more SPACE to put them in. So you accept that NO ONE fully understands the creation of the universe but dismiss the possibility of a God/Gods out of hand. How very one eyed of you. I suggest that you at least keep an open mind as when you come close to death I can assure you God and your Mum is who you will be shouting for. I can assure you it won't be mate. Have very nearly been there before and "God" never even entered my mind. I love the way you tell people how short sighted they are for not believing, yet completely dismiss a theory you clearly have no idea about or have done any research on given the fact you keep spouting things that are factually completely incorrect. I'm not short sighted, i'm simply not a fanstasist who's so scared of life and is so weak in themselves that i need an emotional crutch to rely upon. I simply deal with life myself, millions upon millions of people manage it on a daily basis y'know. You're the worst type of believer and EXACTLY the type that puts other people off (and i'd dare say the type that good old JC wouldn't be a fan of either as he accepted that we were given free will and therefore the choice to believe or not. He accepted that many don't believe, so you may want to try following in his footsteps ). You're not like musik who is happy simply to tell people what he/she believes and let them make their own mind up (and fair play to musik, i respect that), you're the type that tries to force people and if you don't get your own way you come out with that type of shit. All people like you do, is actively drive people AWAY from believing. If you're going to try to prove "God" by dismissing science, then at least have some, tiny idea of what science actually says. So far, you've got just about everything wrong. You need some basic science education, you really do as you're arguing from such an uneducated position it's embarrassing really
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 10:37:56 GMT
A theory that claims the universe is expanding and that there was never a big bang. Oh my GOD =) that's so hard to understand, isn't it. Excuse me I must be thick as shit. So in your expanding universe are the gaps between the planets getting bigger or are we just CREATING more planets and finding some more SPACE to put them in. So you accept that NO ONE fully understands the creation of the universe but dismiss the possibility of a God/Gods out of hand. How very one eyed of you. I suggest that you at least keep an open mind as when you come close to death I can assure you God and your Mum is who you will be shouting for. I can assure you it won't be mate. Have very nearly been there before and "God" never even entered my mind. I love the way you tell people how short sighted they are for not believing, yet completely dismiss a theory you clearly have no idea about or have done any research on given the fact you keep spouting things that are factually completely incorrect. I'm not short sighted, i'm simply not a fanstasist who's so scared of life and is so weak in themselves that i need an emotional crutch to rely upon. I simply deal with life myself, millions upon millions of people manage it on a daily basis y'know. You're the worst type of believer and EXACTLY the type that puts other people off (and i'd dare say the type that good old JC wouldn't be a fan of either as he accepted that we were given free will and therefore the choice to believe or not. He accepted that many don't believe, so you may want to try following in his footsteps ). You're not like musik who is happy simply to tell people what he/she believes and let them make their own mind up (and fair play to musik, i respect that), you're the type that tries to force people and if you don't get your own way you come out with that type of shit. All people like you do, is actively drive people AWAY from believing. If you're going to try to prove "God" by dismissing science, then at least have some, tiny idea of what science actually says. So far, you've got just about everything wrong. You need some basic science education, you really do as you're arguing from such an uneducated position it's embarrassing really Look, don't you worry about a thing. Those great scientists may have the answer to all your problems. www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6228097/Earth-shrink-330ft-particle-accelerator-experiments-wrong.htmlIn no way do I try to force people to accept God. I don't pray to him myself, so why should you. I said I believe in a creator/s. What form that creator takes is unknown to everyone including me. If you don't believe then that's fine by me In this expanding universe is the Earth growing? What space is the universe expanding into and is that expansion space infinite or is there a limit? Do the Klangers come from Mars? So many questions to answer yet all you do is abuse people. I'll leave it there as your mind is a closed book that only accepts what you are told.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Oct 2, 2018 11:00:15 GMT
I can assure you it won't be mate. Have very nearly been there before and "God" never even entered my mind. I love the way you tell people how short sighted they are for not believing, yet completely dismiss a theory you clearly have no idea about or have done any research on given the fact you keep spouting things that are factually completely incorrect. I'm not short sighted, i'm simply not a fanstasist who's so scared of life and is so weak in themselves that i need an emotional crutch to rely upon. I simply deal with life myself, millions upon millions of people manage it on a daily basis y'know. You're the worst type of believer and EXACTLY the type that puts other people off (and i'd dare say the type that good old JC wouldn't be a fan of either as he accepted that we were given free will and therefore the choice to believe or not. He accepted that many don't believe, so you may want to try following in his footsteps ). You're not like musik who is happy simply to tell people what he/she believes and let them make their own mind up (and fair play to musik, i respect that), you're the type that tries to force people and if you don't get your own way you come out with that type of shit. All people like you do, is actively drive people AWAY from believing. If you're going to try to prove "God" by dismissing science, then at least have some, tiny idea of what science actually says. So far, you've got just about everything wrong. You need some basic science education, you really do as you're arguing from such an uneducated position it's embarrassing really Look, don't you worry about a thing. Those great scientists may have the answer to all your problems. www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6228097/Earth-shrink-330ft-particle-accelerator-experiments-wrong.htmlIn no way do I try to force people to accept God. I don't pray to him myself, so why should you. I said I believe in a creator/s. What form that creator takes is unknown to everyone including me. If you don't believe then that's fine by me In this expanding universe is the Earth growing? What space is the universe expanding into and is that expansion space infinite or is there a limit? Do the Klangers come from Mars? So many questions to answer yet all you do is abuse people. I'll leave it there as your mind is a closed book that only accepts what you are told. Not at all, i actually learn as much as i can (actually did a degree in philosophy, with much of my 3rd year work focussing on arguments for the existence of "God"), then make up my own mind. Something you should try, as your knowledge of the scientific theories you dismiss is absolutely non-existent. Funny how you tell others that their minds are a closed book yet completely ignore anything science says, preferring instead to completely misunderstand, make things up and dismiss them based not on what they say, but on what you think they say which is completely inaccurate on your part. As i have said a few times, if you are going to dismiss something then at least try to make the effort of actually knowing what it is you're dismissing. Your posts have made it abundantly clear that you have no knowledge of what the big bang theory even is!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 2, 2018 11:42:45 GMT
Why is this even a debate?
We share a planet with a seriously horrifying amount of people that believe everything was created by a magical man who lives in the clouds.
Get a fucking grip.
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Post by shangamuzo on Oct 2, 2018 12:31:45 GMT
Why is this even a debate? We share a planet with a seriously horrifying amount of people that believe everything was created by a magical man who lives in the clouds. Get a fucking grip. I would have to think if there is/was God. The all-seeing, all-knowing supreme universal intelligence would know what he supposedly gave birth to. So why are we not all perfect like he/it is I wonder ?
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Post by musik on Oct 2, 2018 12:50:28 GMT
Why is this even a debate? We share a planet with a seriously horrifying amount of people that believe everything was created by a magical man who lives in the clouds. Haha! That would be a sight, Bojan. I can tell my brother to wave then, when he's flying to Greece in a fortnight.
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Post by musik on Oct 2, 2018 12:56:40 GMT
I would have to think if there is/was God. The all-seeing, all-knowing supreme universal intelligence would know what he supposedly gave birth to. So why are we not all perfect like he/it is I wonder ? We're only humans - and at different stages. Shells to our souls. Millions of lives later, we advance to "no return necessary". Then we more easily can communicate with the God's negotiator. That's how I perceive it. But many questions are still to be solved. I happened to see a book at the library a few years ago. I browsed a little and some verse therein said, something like this: "The Creator knows everything, all that was in the past and what will come. The Creator knows, but he can't stop it from happening." It was a religious book, but ... I've tried and tried so hard to remember what book it was. Have no idea. Books in general circulate amongst the libraries here; they send them away if someone wants to borrow elsewhere. I simply have to go back someday and do a search (rather recently this particular library moved as well). Another thing. To me it seems we are not assured to have a glimpse of The Creator ever. Not even when we've advanced as much as we can. Maybe we finally all be part of this Creator, force, power, in a recycling system ... like the sight of small energy worms attached to him, melting.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 2, 2018 16:03:24 GMT
That age old Chessnut,Who created God?
Who created the thing that created God?
Repeat into Infinity.
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