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Post by mermaidsal on Nov 29, 2017 22:59:58 GMT
and Martin Atkinson.
But a bent ref's no excuse for tonight really, ok we played well for periods of the game and Sparky made some positive decisions as well as some dodge ones, and yes we weren't the luckiest but yet abloodygain we're falling so far short in terms of basic competence it's woeful to see - not just defensively but that's where it hurts most obviously. Yet abloodygain
Wish there was any other way of seeing it but we're deservedly in a relegation dogfight - whatever Crouchy says, right now we are among the four or five weakest sides in the Prem, the table tells no lies by December.
Two weeks ago I still thought Leslie was worth giving the chance to get us out of this. I reckon tonight is where the tide turns.
4* from me
* if you were there please
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Post by redrob on Nov 29, 2017 23:03:40 GMT
0* He needs to go and now. I think I'm not even angry any more just bored shitless knowing that every game will be the same, judging by the number of empty seats all round the ground tonight I'm not on my own
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 29, 2017 23:04:34 GMT
0* fuck off Hughes
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Post by wuzza on Nov 29, 2017 23:10:30 GMT
I was genuinely disappointed with the way we started that game. Should have been fired up and raring to go against a side with so many of its big players not in the starting eleven. Instead we sat back and waited for the inevitable. I’m not convinced we would have scored against 10 men either. On top of that I still don’t think he has any clear idea how to get the best out of the weird and wonderful bunch of players he has somehow accumulated into what might be laughingly described as his squad. 3 from me .....feeling very dispirited again.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 29, 2017 23:11:30 GMT
I was genuinely disappointed with the way we started that game. Should have been fired up and raring to go against a side with so many of its big players not in the starting eleven. Instead we sat back and waited for the inevitable. I’m not convinced we would have scored against 10 men either. On top of that I still don’t think he has any clear idea how to get the best out of weird and wonderful bunch of players he has somehow accumulated into what might be laughingly described as his squad. 3 from me .....feeling very dispirited again. 3 is very generous.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Nov 29, 2017 23:16:17 GMT
The way he started the game was a scandal . I'd give him 1 for abandoning his stupid system and 1 for playing Bruno . We are unfit unbalanced and in deep shit 2*
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 23:20:37 GMT
0. Sent the team out yet again with the formation that as seen us getting battered. One dimension and that was diagonal long ball to crouch. No passion, no fight no fucking idea. I was going give him minus 5 but I’ll spare him that for going to a formation that suits the players we’re got.
The deluded prick as come out and said we were hard done to, no doubt backed up by the deluded chairman. Let’s hope John Coates can see it quick
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 29, 2017 23:21:10 GMT
2, SUBS man use them, did he think Adam would score a hat trick with 5 mins to go, 60 mins, make the changes give them some time, Jesse was just the same as was already on, yes Liverpool are the better team but Hughes doesn't know what he's doing.
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Post by reddipotter on Nov 29, 2017 23:57:54 GMT
Absolutely no evidence of playing like a team. What does Hughes do with them all week? 2*
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 30, 2017 0:08:16 GMT
0*
Our attack tonight
Long ball to crouch Crouch wins header Flicks on to no one Repeat.
Defensively as fragile as papermache ball in a rain storm.
I hope Hughes has his bag ready cos he'll be packing it on Saturday.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 30, 2017 0:09:39 GMT
Absolutely no evidence of playing like a team. What does Hughes do with them all week? 2* When you find out let us know buddy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 0:12:36 GMT
Well at least we played 4-4-2 and looked threatening at times. Should have scored one of the two genuine chances at 1-0. But the positives all but stop there. The seems to be no structure, no focus and no confidence.
Liverpool could have (and should have) had at least two more.
We are in trouble. Hughes or no Hughes, we are in trouble.
2
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 30, 2017 0:12:48 GMT
0 Thrown away his stupid wing backs plan as he forgot to sign any.
Reverted to a paceless long ball 4-4-2
With midfielders who can't win the ball back.
Rubbish, total rubbish
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Post by 4evastoke on Nov 30, 2017 0:24:27 GMT
A very generous 2
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Post by kustokie on Nov 30, 2017 0:40:42 GMT
How did it take him until 30 minutes and a stupid defensive mistake to realize that we don’t have the talent to play three at the back. Something else even more worrying occurred to me at some point during the second half. We had all our best players on the pitch and went toe-to-toe with Liverpool for while because we were set up to play to their strengths. However, we had nobody, nada, zilch, nowt on the bench that could come in and make a difference. That was glaringly obvious when the only fresh legs Hughes had at his disposal were Jese, who is an emotional wreck, and Fatty Adams, who was tugging at his jersey, which was obviously about 3 sizes too small.
What a bloody mess.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 30, 2017 1:45:12 GMT
4* Should have hooked Chopper earlier. Waited too long to make substitutions generally. Didn't like Crouch on his lonesome running very slowly.
Actually, is 4 a bit high?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 1:49:05 GMT
6* Changed system when it wasn't working and it was better. Can't help his players practically booting it in the net for Liverpool. Tonight is on the players for me, not hughes. (Apart from the fact he hasn't bought a right back or a defensive midfielder) Re: subs, I think we were working better as it was, and Choupo wouldn't have come off if he wasn't injured. Charlie was probably just to get him some game time. Or keep Fletcher fit. I have no issue with him not changing things if they're working, and they were to an extent, we were having our best spells of the game.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Nov 30, 2017 3:28:05 GMT
I seriouly think Mark is having a long overdue mid-life crisis. One that has been swelling up inside him for a long time. As far as football management is concerned, his thought process is no longer rational. He has no more original ideas left. He is afraid to change because the unknown represents even greater anxiety for him. He is probably embarrassed now to meet more successful managers on matchdays and give media interviews. And worst of all, I don't think the squad wants to play for him any more.
2* for today. I cannot believe what he's done to our club since that 6-1 destruction of the same opponents in May 2015.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Nov 30, 2017 5:11:19 GMT
2 from me
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 30, 2017 6:21:47 GMT
A very genereus 4 I was a staunch supporter of Hughesy but its gone on too long now.
He can move on with My thanks and take time out
The lees Saïd about the players the better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 6:41:40 GMT
*2 I've managed a fitful six hours sleep so I can digest the match less emotionally now He gets a 1 for just putting a team out and another 1 for changing to 442 when he realised how poor we were with 3 at the back Why we start with Crouch, as much as I like him as a player and a man, is beyond me, it smacks of utter desperation At times it was route one and every attack seemed telegraphed and inevitably predictable. We caused Liverpool little to worry about who were not great but good value for their three goals and we made look like Brazil I am more than happy to be ridiculed for my lack of tactical knowledge as I have little but what I do know about is spirit and we seemed bankrupt in that and self-belief. We seemed anxious, unimaginitive and defeatist. It was a laboured and uninspiring performance. Why one of our best strikers, who when moved to a front two from his now ubiquitous wingback position made us more dangerous, I will never know. Pulisesque square peg in a round hole highlighting our lack of depth or managerial belief in other options In general very lacklustre and disappointing leaving me little consolation: Jese seemed a spark when he came on way too late and Shaqiri didn't go off on a stretcher and that's about it On that performance I don't expect anything more than a relegation battle if Hughes remains at the helm. We need major signings in January if he is to stay and filling key holes at both wingbacks, creativity in midfield (good to see Affely warming up again) (Anyone else been very impressed with Joe Allen recently? Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/272999/impressed-joe-allen#ixzz4ztYCyXYOYes that's also a positive, there's more go in him than the rest combined at times but I just feel at times it is very much effort with little return for the energy he expends and that's because he's got no one to match him on the pitch for drive and endeavour) The amount of time and space we afforded them made us look like the away side Even the Boothen end couldn't be arsed to reciprocate Sobhi's claps to us each time he faced us warming up at the corner flag showing a complete lack of enthusiasm for the team, a worrying prospect for me on gauging the general mood of the fans
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Post by reddipotter on Nov 30, 2017 7:21:12 GMT
*2 I've managed a fitful six hours sleep so I can digest the match less emotionally now He gets a 1 for just putting a team out and another 1 for changing to 442 when he realised how poor we were with 3 at the back Why we start with Crouch, as much as I like him as a player and a man, is beyond me, it smacks of utter desperation At times it was route one and every attack seemed telegraphed and inevitably predictable. We caused Liverpool little to worry about who were not great but good value for their three goals and we made look like Brazil I am more than happy to be ridiculed for my lack of tactical knowledge as I have little but what I do know about is spirit and we seemed bankrupt in that and self-belief. We seemed anxious, unimaginitive and defeatist. It was a laboured and uninspiring performance. Why one of our best strikers, who when moved to a front two from his now ubiquitous wingback position made us more dangerous, I will never know. Pulisesque square peg in a round hole highlighting our lack of depth or managerial belief in other options In general very lacklustre and disappointing leaving me little consolation: Jese seemed a spark when he came on way too late and Shaqiri didn't go off on a stretcher and that's about it On that performance I don't expect anything more than a relegation battle if Hughes remains at the helm. We need major signings in January if he is to stay and filling key holes at both wingbacks, creativity in midfield (good to see Affely warming up again) (Anyone else been very impressed with Joe Allen recently? Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/272999/impressed-joe-allen#ixzz4ztYCyXYOYes that's also a positive, there's more go in him than the rest combined at times but I just feel at times it is very much effort with little return for the energy he expends and that's because he's got no one to match him on the pitch for drive and endeavour) The amount of time and space we afforded them made us look like the away side Even the Boothen end couldn't be arsed to reciprocate Sobhi's claps to us each time he faced us warming up at the corner flag showing a complete lack of enthusiasm for the team, a worrying prospect for me on gauging the general mood of the fans I would pretty well agree with that, except that I thought Diouf faded from the game almost completely when he went up front. And he missed a sitter that Geoffrey Boycott's mum could have scored with her pinny.
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Post by fca47 on Nov 30, 2017 7:35:35 GMT
3 - if he plays three at the back again he wants shooting.
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Post by hoofmagic on Nov 30, 2017 8:18:01 GMT
1 JUST WALK HUGHES.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Nov 30, 2017 8:29:04 GMT
He's outdone his time at the club.
He needs to go.
0.
Twatkinson doesn't deserve a rating. Id imagine the Liverpool player ratings will rate that bent twat.
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Post by 1982stokie on Nov 30, 2017 13:07:29 GMT
1 he at least changed the formation. His substitutions are a joke and didn't seem to have any purpose, he showed no passion or fight on the touch line and that shows on the pitch. its like watching a slow motion car crash
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Post by loosestools on Nov 30, 2017 13:57:07 GMT
-1, all of the above plus I was bloody frozen * I threatened not to go since last Saturday, but my loyalty got the better of me, wished I hadn't, I've paid for my season card and that stuck in my craw.
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Post by butlerstbob on Nov 30, 2017 14:07:23 GMT
0 from me Sick of 3 centre halves Sick of wing backs Sick of Erik Pieters Sick of Twatkinson Sick of football!
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Post by Gunslinger on Nov 30, 2017 14:12:19 GMT
2
One for managing to pick a team and one for making the team play at the right ground. I’m trying to find something positive in this mess...
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 30, 2017 14:20:51 GMT
3*
Why did he bring Charlie on, thought he should have brought Bera on just in case he managed to scuff one in and help with his confidence
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