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Post by Cast no shadow on Nov 28, 2017 11:41:39 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 28, 2017 11:43:37 GMT
I'm staggered at how badly the club is being managed that he's become such an important player for us again.
Love the bloke but if you'd told me he'd be our most effective striker when we had the front 3 of 2015 I'd have laughed in your face.
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Post by wuzza on Nov 28, 2017 11:43:43 GMT
Got to be good news wherever we find ourselves playing. Need his influence in the background and will probably be a regular starter by the time we get to the nitty gritty at the end of the season.
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Post by callas12 on Nov 28, 2017 11:45:33 GMT
Great news. Potter Legend..
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Post by cousindupree on Nov 28, 2017 11:46:21 GMT
Great news love Crouchie
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Post by mattythestokie on Nov 28, 2017 11:48:47 GMT
Always a good option to have. Great news.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 28, 2017 11:51:28 GMT
Brilliant, love crouchy!!! 👍☺
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Post by alster on Nov 28, 2017 11:52:53 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2017 11:56:17 GMT
It's good news as he's the only striker the manager trusts.
It's bad news because it sums up what a mess we're in.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 28, 2017 11:56:47 GMT
He clearly isn't that bothered about not starting games then?.. Anyway, I'm glad he's staying. Pretty sure the gaffer will be gone before Crouchy exits as well.
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Post by jeycov on Nov 28, 2017 12:04:42 GMT
Ibrahimovic is challenging Lukaku for a starting place at Man Utd and he is 36 I cannot detect comments saying that he is too old ( and has experienced some nasty injuries) It seems too risky to involve the like of N’Goy, Campbell - Man Utd can afford to include their youngsters because of the quality players in the team
Crouch signing is a good move Imo
Is this good timing to make this announcement and possibly deflect some of the negative press? ( if it is a popular move?)
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 28, 2017 12:09:16 GMT
It's good news as he's the only striker the manager trusts. It's bad news because it sums up what a mess we're in. A striker he trusts but never starts I was thinking the other day at work (btw, I never ever think about Stoke/football when I'm at work so there must be something badly wrong at Stoke if that happens) and the amount of problems/mistakes I came up with in my head was quite staggering. How many other managers in the league would play a striker at RWB? arguably our best striker at that. Who would decide on a formation or "philosophy" if you will and then not buy the requisite players for that formation? In the same breathe, how many would spunk nearly £20m on 1 player who isn't exactly proven in this league when that money was badly needed to be spent elsewhere? surely 2 solid wing backs would've brought more to the team than a potentially decent CB? Who would chase a striker for 2 years and then decide when he's actually fit he's best sitting on the bench? (if he's lucky) Who would give a contract to a player who, if he was a horse, would've been shot dead by now? (Johnson, not that I needed to say his name) You could throw Afellay into that as well seeing as he isn't getting a kick, a place in the squad which should've been taken by a younger/fitter person. Who goes into a Premier League season with only 2 central midfielders he trusts? 1 of which quite clearly needs resting. As we're on midfield, who spunks £18m on a central midfielder (Imbula) without doing the proper due diligence? running rings around our midfield in a friendly isn't exactly hard is it? I'd fancy my chances to be frank. What manager/scouting network only chases 2 central midfielders in an entire summer? I mean, having no other targets other than Lemina and Delph was again, staggering. .. there's more but I'm boring myself now with this my point being, if the facts were laid out to Coates in a bullet point format I'm sure he'd be taken back by it all.
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Post by Davef on Nov 28, 2017 12:12:24 GMT
Stoke fans whining about a bloke who puts the ball in the back of the net signing on for another year?
Who gives a shit how old he is? If Diouf and Berahino had forged a lethal partnership, I'd have still been happy to have Crouch at the club.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Nov 28, 2017 12:21:46 GMT
If only from a positive PR point of view, it's a good signing. It doesn't mean we won't ever sign another striker.
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Post by shrewspotter on Nov 28, 2017 12:29:44 GMT
Good signing and no brainer really
He doesn't really command a transfer fee if you were to sell him and he brings something different to play if(when) it goes Pete Tongue
Agree with the above though when we say its a bit sad when he is arguably our most lethal striker
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 28, 2017 12:48:37 GMT
A no brainer to extend his stay at Stoke. A striker he seems to have a lot of faith in, but seemingly not enough that he is asked to start matches.
I like Crouch, but I think Bayern said above, it's bad that we are having to still rely on Crouch, he'll be 37 soon. But listen, regardless of how old he is, if he can still knock them in the back of the next I'm not going to complain, because his game style works at his age, especially as he doesn't have to really be fussed about his pace.
We do need a RWB now so we can have Diouf upfront, meanwhile Bera still hasn't made an impact.
A good signing but a sign of how poor our striking options have seemingly become, especially when one is playing in wing back.
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Nov 28, 2017 12:55:14 GMT
I think the fact that we are ecstatic about this says more about the state of our squad than the signing itself. Happy for Crouch, great bloke, great servant to the club and a likely leader behind the scenes. However, not the type of player (age, pace etc) that we can justify investing 40K a week into.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 12:59:14 GMT
Nothing surprises me with Stoke City anymore
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Post by Fred Merger on Nov 28, 2017 12:59:54 GMT
Waiting for Johnson signs new deal next!
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Post by basingstokie on Nov 28, 2017 13:07:34 GMT
Its a good signing IMO. Reflects badly on Hughes that he's spent so much money and yet Crouch is still our most effective striker. But thats not a reason not to re-sign him
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Post by kustokie on Nov 28, 2017 13:30:30 GMT
It's good news as he's the only striker the manager trusts. It's bad news because it sums up what a mess we're in. A striker he trusts but never starts I was thinking the other day at work (btw, I never ever think about Stoke/football when I'm at work so there must be something badly wrong at Stoke if that happens) and the amount of problems/mistakes I came up with in my head was quite staggering. How many other managers in the league would play a striker at RWB? arguably our best striker at that. Who would decide on a formation or "philosophy" if you will and then not buy the requisite players for that formation? In the same breathe, how many would spunk nearly £20m on 1 player who isn't exactly proven in this league when that money was badly needed to be spent elsewhere? surely 2 solid wing backs would've brought more to the team than a potentially decent CB? Who would chase a striker for 2 years and then decide when he's actually fit he's best sitting on the bench? (if he's lucky) Who would give a contract to a player who, if he was a horse, would've been shot dead by now? (Johnson, not that I needed to say his name) You could throw Afellay into that as well seeing as he isn't getting a kick, a place in the squad which should've been taken by a younger/fitter person. Who goes into a Premier League season with only 2 central midfielders he trusts? 1 of which quite clearly needs resting. As we're on midfield, who spunks £18m on a central midfielder (Imbula) without doing the proper due diligence? running rings around our midfield in a friendly isn't exactly hard is it? I'd fancy my chances to be frank. What manager/scouting network only chases 2 central midfielders in an entire summer? I mean, having no other targets other than Lemina and Delph was again, staggering. .. there's more but I'm boring myself now with this my point being, if the facts were laid out to Coates in a bullet point format I'm sure he'd be taken back by it all. Imagine how creative you would be if you quit your job and did this full time. Write a book, start a blog, column in the paper, ... the list is endless. “The Lonely Life of a Moaning Stokie”.
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 28, 2017 13:34:04 GMT
A striker he trusts but never starts I was thinking the other day at work (btw, I never ever think about Stoke/football when I'm at work so there must be something badly wrong at Stoke if that happens) and the amount of problems/mistakes I came up with in my head was quite staggering. How many other managers in the league would play a striker at RWB? arguably our best striker at that. Who would decide on a formation or "philosophy" if you will and then not buy the requisite players for that formation? In the same breathe, how many would spunk nearly £20m on 1 player who isn't exactly proven in this league when that money was badly needed to be spent elsewhere? surely 2 solid wing backs would've brought more to the team than a potentially decent CB? Who would chase a striker for 2 years and then decide when he's actually fit he's best sitting on the bench? (if he's lucky) Who would give a contract to a player who, if he was a horse, would've been shot dead by now? (Johnson, not that I needed to say his name) You could throw Afellay into that as well seeing as he isn't getting a kick, a place in the squad which should've been taken by a younger/fitter person. Who goes into a Premier League season with only 2 central midfielders he trusts? 1 of which quite clearly needs resting. As we're on midfield, who spunks £18m on a central midfielder (Imbula) without doing the proper due diligence? running rings around our midfield in a friendly isn't exactly hard is it? I'd fancy my chances to be frank. What manager/scouting network only chases 2 central midfielders in an entire summer? I mean, having no other targets other than Lemina and Delph was again, staggering. .. there's more but I'm boring myself now with this my point being, if the facts were laid out to Coates in a bullet point format I'm sure he'd be taken back by it all. Imagine how creative you would be if you quit your job and did this full time. Write a book, start a blog, column in the paper, ... the list is endless. “The Lonely Life of a Moaning Stokie”. None of it is wrong though The staggering amount of mistakes that have been made truly is incredible
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 28, 2017 13:37:40 GMT
A striker he trusts but never starts I was thinking the other day at work (btw, I never ever think about Stoke/football when I'm at work so there must be something badly wrong at Stoke if that happens) and the amount of problems/mistakes I came up with in my head was quite staggering. How many other managers in the league would play a striker at RWB? arguably our best striker at that. Who would decide on a formation or "philosophy" if you will and then not buy the requisite players for that formation? In the same breathe, how many would spunk nearly £20m on 1 player who isn't exactly proven in this league when that money was badly needed to be spent elsewhere? surely 2 solid wing backs would've brought more to the team than a potentially decent CB? Who would chase a striker for 2 years and then decide when he's actually fit he's best sitting on the bench? (if he's lucky) Who would give a contract to a player who, if he was a horse, would've been shot dead by now? (Johnson, not that I needed to say his name) You could throw Afellay into that as well seeing as he isn't getting a kick, a place in the squad which should've been taken by a younger/fitter person. Who goes into a Premier League season with only 2 central midfielders he trusts? 1 of which quite clearly needs resting. As we're on midfield, who spunks £18m on a central midfielder (Imbula) without doing the proper due diligence? running rings around our midfield in a friendly isn't exactly hard is it? I'd fancy my chances to be frank. What manager/scouting network only chases 2 central midfielders in an entire summer? I mean, having no other targets other than Lemina and Delph was again, staggering. .. there's more but I'm boring myself now with this my point being, if the facts were laid out to Coates in a bullet point format I'm sure he'd be taken back by it all. Imagine how creative you would be if you quit your job and did this full time. Write a book, start a blog, column in the paper, ... the list is endless. “The Lonely Life of a Moaning Stokie”. And you can argue against any of it? Also, it's taken a lot longer for me to turn on Hughes than the vast majority on here so let's put that one to bed.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Nov 28, 2017 13:44:14 GMT
It's good news as he's the only striker the manager trusts. It's bad news because it sums up what a mess we're in. A striker he trusts but never starts I was thinking the other day at work (btw, I never ever think about Stoke/football when I'm at work so there must be something badly wrong at Stoke if that happens) and the amount of problems/mistakes I came up with in my head was quite staggering. How many other managers in the league would play a striker at RWB? arguably our best striker at that. Who would decide on a formation or "philosophy" if you will and then not buy the requisite players for that formation? In the same breathe, how many would spunk nearly £20m on 1 player who isn't exactly proven in this league when that money was badly needed to be spent elsewhere? surely 2 solid wing backs would've brought more to the team than a potentially decent CB? Who would chase a striker for 2 years and then decide when he's actually fit he's best sitting on the bench? (if he's lucky) Who would give a contract to a player who, if he was a horse, would've been shot dead by now? (Johnson, not that I needed to say his name) You could throw Afellay into that as well seeing as he isn't getting a kick, a place in the squad which should've been taken by a younger/fitter person. Who goes into a Premier League season with only 2 central midfielders he trusts? 1 of which quite clearly needs resting. As we're on midfield, who spunks £18m on a central midfielder (Imbula) without doing the proper due diligence? running rings around our midfield in a friendly isn't exactly hard is it? I'd fancy my chances to be frank. What manager/scouting network only chases 2 central midfielders in an entire summer? I mean, having no other targets other than Lemina and Delph was again, staggering. .. there's more but I'm boring myself now with this my point being, if the facts were laid out to Coates in a bullet point format I'm sure he'd be taken back by it all. General, I'm still staggered Coates can't see it as simply as this and you know 80% of fans must now be thinking the same. I'm always flabbergasted by the fact we get the usual "there are no candidates out there that are 'suitable" banded around. Football clubs are a business these days if any other business was utilising staff in this way (having the chief project manager make the tea and Betty from Accounts operating the lathe) then questions would be asked at board level of the senior management team. There would undoubtably be casualties but then a Business Would advertise or possibly 'head hunt' a suitable candidate paying headhunter fees. I'm certain were Coates put the feelers out then agents of managers would make contact however whether Scholes and Cartwright have enough quality about them to negotiate a deal, sack Hughes and get a new man in is debatable.
Anyway I think if we drop into the bottom three again at any point he will have no choice but to dispense of Hughes and his teams services.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 28, 2017 14:10:07 GMT
Stoke fans whining about a bloke who puts the ball in the back of the net signing on for another year? Who gives a shit how old he is? If Diouf and Berahino had forged a lethal partnership, I'd have still been happy to have Crouch at the club. 100% agree with your comment. Every team needs a back up option for every position and preferably an option who brings something different to the team. Crouch fits the bill perfectly. Rather than get upset about us signing Crouch for another season people would be better off concerning themselves about us signing (or developing) a first choice striker who can lead the line and settling on a system to use them most effectively.
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Post by somersetstokie on Nov 28, 2017 14:28:18 GMT
If we are back in league 1 by the summer of 2019, I would expect him to retire, because it can get a bit rough down in the lower leagues.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 14:37:14 GMT
I'm staggered at how badly the club is being managed that he's become such an important player for us again. Love the bloke but if you'd told me he'd be our most effective striker when we had the front 3 of 2015 I'd have laughed in your face. In a nutshell 👍👏😬
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 28, 2017 15:06:09 GMT
It's good news as he's the only striker the manager trusts. It's bad news because it sums up what a mess we're in. A striker he trusts but never starts I was thinking the other day at work (btw, I never ever think about Stoke/football when I'm at work so there must be something badly wrong at Stoke if that happens) and the amount of problems/mistakes I came up with in my head was quite staggering. How many other managers in the league would play a striker at RWB? arguably our best striker at that. Who would decide on a formation or "philosophy" if you will and then not buy the requisite players for that formation? In the same breathe, how many would spunk nearly £20m on 1 player who isn't exactly proven in this league when that money was badly needed to be spent elsewhere? surely 2 solid wing backs would've brought more to the team than a potentially decent CB? Who would chase a striker for 2 years and then decide when he's actually fit he's best sitting on the bench? (if he's lucky) Who would give a contract to a player who, if he was a horse, would've been shot dead by now? (Johnson, not that I needed to say his name) You could throw Afellay into that as well seeing as he isn't getting a kick, a place in the squad which should've been taken by a younger/fitter person. Who goes into a Premier League season with only 2 central midfielders he trusts? 1 of which quite clearly needs resting. As we're on midfield, who spunks £18m on a central midfielder (Imbula) without doing the proper due diligence? running rings around our midfield in a friendly isn't exactly hard is it? I'd fancy my chances to be frank. What manager/scouting network only chases 2 central midfielders in an entire summer? I mean, having no other targets other than Lemina and Delph was again, staggering. .. there's more but I'm boring myself now with this my point being, if the facts were laid out to Coates in a bullet point format I'm sure he'd be taken back by it all. I've been thinking exactly the same things when I've been at work lately. Usually I think how wank the place is so at least it's something different.
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 28, 2017 15:57:02 GMT
Waiting for Johnson signs new deal next! Fuckin massive insult to Crouch to even remotely compare the two.
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Post by Fred Merger on Nov 28, 2017 17:37:49 GMT
Not comparing the two but there seems to be a worrying trend for renewing older players contracts instead of bringing younger fresher and even hungrier players into the club.
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