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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 26, 2017 14:59:36 GMT
Realistically the only one we'd have any chance at all with on that list is Koeman. Of the vaguely realistic options, Jokanovic or Patrick Vieira? Maybe Galtier who used to be at St Etienne? And they'd all fall into the big gamble category. Jokanovic isn't pulling up any trees this season and Vieira has just managed in MLS. Galtier has never managed outside France. I can't think of one British option who'd come and be a big step forward. I wouldn't mind Allardyce, Wilder, Rowett, Hughton etc - but almost no chance they'd come IMO. Dyche wouldn't give us a second glance. What can we offer that Burnley can't going forward? McInnes at Aberdeen? Excellent record - but it's Scotland! Shakespeare - good No.2? Allardyce respectd him enough to make him his No.2 with England, and did little wrong as No.1 at Leicester really. Any chance we could get Bielsa, FM? Or reckon he's out of our league? Sacked recently and even though he seems like a right nutter, he's always been considered one of the best. He's not Coates' usual cup of tea, is he? And language could be a problem. Doesn't he require a certain group of players, a lot of time, and mad fitness levels to carry out his tactics. Not sure he's the type to chuck into a potential relegation dogfight? He seems to have had a bit of a mare in France this season too
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Post by nutterpotter on Nov 26, 2017 15:03:35 GMT
Any chance we could get Bielsa, FM? Or reckon he's out of our league? Sacked recently and even though he seems like a right nutter, he's always been considered one of the best. He's not Coates' usual cup of tea, is he? And language could be a problem. Doesn't he require a certain group of players, a lot of time, and mad fitness levels to carry out his tactics. Not sure he's the type to chuck into a potential relegation dogfight? He seems to have had a bit of a mare in France this season too True. If Hughes makes is until the end of the season, Bielsa may be more of an option next summer if he's still available. Would definitely be interesting though!
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Nov 26, 2017 15:04:37 GMT
None of those will come to stoke for the 800k a year Hughsey Is on. £5m to buy Benitez out at Newcastle allegedly . Not if he is sacked when the take over goes through. Only him and Koeman would be on my list gaesd in England, other then that we need to look abroad.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 26, 2017 15:09:00 GMT
He's not Coates' usual cup of tea, is he? And language could be a problem. Doesn't he require a certain group of players, a lot of time, and mad fitness levels to carry out his tactics. Not sure he's the type to chuck into a potential relegation dogfight? He seems to have had a bit of a mare in France this season too True. If Hughes makes is until the end of the season, Bielsa may be more of an option next summer if he's still available. Would definitely be interesting though! Everywhere he has been is a car crash. Given carte blanche at Lille and failed miserably.
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Post by nutterpotter on Nov 26, 2017 15:12:56 GMT
True. If Hughes makes is until the end of the season, Bielsa may be more of an option next summer if he's still available. Would definitely be interesting though! Everywhere he has been is a car crash. Given carte blanche at Lille and failed miserably. From his Wiki: "This signature style of Bielsa's has had so much influence in the football scene that many present coaches – former players under Bielsa's command – are heavily influenced by the style, such as Gerardo Martino, Mauricio Pochettino, Matías Almeyda and Marcelo Gallardo. Former Barcelona and Bayern Munich manager Pep Guardiola credited Bielsa as his tactical inspiration and called him the "best manager in the world" in 2012. Jorge Sampaoli, current manager of the Argentina National Team, former Sevilla FC manager from 2016-2017 and former Chile national team manager from 2012–2016, has been described as a "disciple" of Bielsa." I know he often falls out at every club and it eventually goes tits up, but would be worth a shot. Oh, and he got the best out of Imbula!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 26, 2017 15:22:13 GMT
If MH got the chop My list would be Brendan Rodgers Sean Dyche Marco Silva Rafa Benitez Ronald Koeman That wolves manager I actually don't mind Brendan Rodgers, if we could coax him back down to England!!! So far, I'm not on this Sean Dyche band wagon!!! Silva is doing really well with Watford, can't see him wanting to give that up, but stranger things have happened!!! Rafa would be a dream....but I'm afraid that's all it'll ever be!!! Koeman is still a decent manager albeit what happened at Everton, but is he ready to jump back in again, especially with a team that isn't doing much better than his previous one??? As for the Wolves Gaffer....would he jump ship just for a quick meal ticket into the premiership, with a team struggling, while his team sit proudly on top of the championship??? Out of that little lot, it's between Rodgers and Koeman for me!!!
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Post by stokie1954 on Nov 26, 2017 15:26:12 GMT
I'd go for fatty Unsworth. Doing a great job at Everton keeping the fuckers below us.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 26, 2017 15:31:07 GMT
£5m to buy Benitez out at Newcastle allegedly . Not if he is sacked when the take over goes through. Only him and Koeman would be on my list gaesd in England, other then that we need to look abroad. He won't be sacked , he'll be given serious money to spend,but it won't go,through before the dye is cast for us
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Post by stokeoptimist on Nov 26, 2017 15:32:21 GMT
Really don’t understand the logic of some on here? How can you possibly put Koeman forward as a replacement after he has spent a fortune at Everton and they are so bad that even getting rid of him has no effect. I would rather stick with the man we have, the only two I would consider is Allardyce and Benitez and neither would come here anyway!
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Post by femark1 on Nov 26, 2017 15:40:10 GMT
None of those will come to stoke...
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Post by thisfootballclub on Nov 26, 2017 15:43:04 GMT
None of those will come to stoke for the 800k a year Hughsey Is on. £5m to buy Benitez out at Newcastle allegedly . Nearly a quarter of the money wasted on Imbula, and I bet he would say good morning to his players too!
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Post by pyrus on Nov 26, 2017 15:54:30 GMT
I think of those mentioned, Koeman might be the best bet. His record at Southampton is more relevant to us than his record at Everton.
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Post by miltonpotterfan on Nov 26, 2017 16:08:05 GMT
Really don’t understand the logic of some on here? How can you possibly put Koeman forward as a replacement after he has spent a fortune at Everton and they are so bad that even getting rid of him has no effect. I would rather stick with the man we have, the only two I would consider is Allardyce and Benitez and neither would come here anyway! Look at his record at Soton and Everton (apart from this season)
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Post by alster on Nov 26, 2017 16:16:41 GMT
Really don’t understand the logic of some on here? How can you possibly put Koeman forward as a replacement after he has spent a fortune at Everton and they are so bad that even getting rid of him has no effect. I would rather stick with the man we have, the only two I would consider is Allardyce and Benitez and neither would come here anyway! Look at his record at Soton and Everton (apart from this season) So he did ok with players assembled by Pochettino and Martinez but really fucked up when he tried to assemble a team of his own it had all the same problems as Hughes has created, completely unbalanced lacking pace and an out and out forward.
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Post by stokiekm on Nov 26, 2017 16:44:46 GMT
Wouldn't a more pertinent question be who would you have who's available? Bit pointless otherwise
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Post by daveandeddy on Nov 26, 2017 16:48:07 GMT
Gary Monk
It is what some of the posters on here deserve
Assistant
Colin
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Post by hanibal7 on Nov 26, 2017 17:03:15 GMT
I think of those mentioned, Koeman might be the best bet. His record at Southampton is more relevant to us than his record at Everton. why??? U don't base 3 seasons of 9th with Hughes, then a blip
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Post by daveandeddy on Nov 26, 2017 20:35:32 GMT
As a supporters fanzine ours has to be one of the worst for shouting up our team
In my 50 years of going to games i have always known the stoke fans to be up there with the most fickle
2 home games coming up
Come on you rip roaring fucking potters
I hope the players and staff ignore the bile on most of the threads now
I have no problem with critical and constructive and humurous analysis but cannot understand the absolute bollocks that comes from some accounts on here
At best we are a mid table club and have never been any more than that even when there was a level playing field
I still see every year we spend in the premier as a bonus as i would if i was a fan of all bar:
Manchester city and utd Arsenal Tottenham Liverpool
Everton i would see these as a bigger and more affluent club under performing
All the other 14 clubs are interchangeable when it comes to position and for all those who think we should be any different are frankly delusional and for me as bad as the glory hunters who crave success
But it is an opinion and just like my arse we all have one
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Post by Boothen on Nov 26, 2017 20:45:21 GMT
Michael Laudrup.
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Post by sportsman on Nov 26, 2017 20:47:04 GMT
Why would Rafa leave his present job? Out of the frying pan into the fire. Makes no sense. As I said it's unlikely, but the new owners may want their own man in? Rafa may want to move closer to the Wirral where he currently lives I think. What and have £6.40 to spend and a toffee crisp to trade in? Oh, and considering he's known as a safety first defensive coach, he didn't do too well yesterday at home to Watford. Good job we didn't do that, Hughes would be hung.
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Post by haway on Nov 26, 2017 20:52:02 GMT
Benitez getting slated by some fans after Watford beat them.
Just wait till he's sacked if you's want him, save £5m that way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 21:03:52 GMT
Wagner.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 21:03:58 GMT
Look at his record at Soton and Everton (apart from this season) So he did ok with players assembled by Pochettino and Martinez but really fucked up when he tried to assemble a team of his own it had all the same problems as Hughes has created, completely unbalanced lacking pace and an out and out forward. They sold his best striker and forced him to accommodate Rooney in the team. How as a manager do you cope with that, remember you build a team around your striker. Koeman needs to revive his career otherwise he wouldn't look twice at us and still might not.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 26, 2017 21:05:54 GMT
I suggested him a while back. Apparently he's a funny fucker, though. Whether that should disqualify him is another matter!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 26, 2017 21:19:41 GMT
Chris Wilder or Gary Rowett
Not part of the merry go round and British, worth giving one of them a chance.
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Post by alster on Nov 26, 2017 21:20:23 GMT
So he did ok with players assembled by Pochettino and Martinez but really fucked up when he tried to assemble a team of his own it had all the same problems as Hughes has created, completely unbalanced lacking pace and an out and out forward. They sold his best striker and forced him to accommodate Rooney in the team. How as a manager do you cope with that, remember you build a team around your striker. Koeman needs to revive his career otherwise he wouldn't look twice at us and still might not. You can accommodate Rooney in the team if you don't make some of the other signings he made. He spent like kid in a sweetshop with very little thought as to how it would come together. He spent in the region of £70M and massive wages on Sigurdsson, Rooney, Klassen who can't play in the same team.
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Post by stokiekm on Nov 26, 2017 21:36:44 GMT
As a supporters fanzine ours has to be one of the worst for shouting up our team In my 50 years of going to games i have always known the stoke fans to be up there with the most fickle 2 home games coming up Come on you rip roaring fucking potters I hope the players and staff ignore the bile on most of the threads now I have no problem with critical and constructive and humurous analysis but cannot understand the absolute bollocks that comes from some accounts on here At best we are a mid table club and have never been any more than that even when there was a level playing field I still see every year we spend in the premier as a bonus as i would if i was a fan of all bar: Manchester city and utd Arsenal Tottenham Liverpool Everton i would see these as a bigger and more affluent club under performing All the other 14 clubs are interchangeable when it comes to position and for all those who think we should be any different are frankly delusional and for me as bad as the glory hunters who crave success But it is an opinion and just like my arse we all have one I expected you to have been shot down by now for posting a decent summary. I'm sure those that despise anyone that doesn't hate everything about stoke will do soon
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Post by arnie3010 on Nov 26, 2017 21:37:29 GMT
Lee Johnson
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Post by shangamuzo on Nov 26, 2017 21:50:23 GMT
If MH got the chop My list would be Brendan Rodgers Sean Dyche Marco Silva Rafa Benitez Ronald Koeman That wolves manager Dyche ticks all the boxes.
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Post by geoff321 on Nov 26, 2017 21:56:26 GMT
If MH got the chop My list would be Brendan Rodgers Sean Dyche Marco Silva Rafa Benitez Ronald Koeman That wolves manager I don't think any of these managers would be interested in taking over from Mark Hughes if he left.
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