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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 25, 2017 21:17:42 GMT
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Post by johnbutlershair on Nov 25, 2017 21:19:56 GMT
No, no we're not. He wouldn't be the one to turn this around. Victor Moses, Assaidi, Odemwingie, Etherungton, Pennant, Arnautovic, Diouf up front. Those are the types of players we are missing |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Nov 25, 2017 21:21:33 GMT
N’Zonzi.
And 2x wing backs.
We would be a completely different proposition.
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Post by thegift on Nov 25, 2017 21:21:38 GMT
Fuck no. Charlie adam is really starting to get on my tits. He needs to learn to shut the fuck up or fuck off.
Some of his comments lately has been making he needs to keep them to himself
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Post by StatesideStokie on Nov 25, 2017 21:25:34 GMT
Fuck no. Charlie adam is really starting to get on my tits. He needs to learn to shut the fuck up or fuck off. Some of his comments lately has been making he needs to keep them to himself Pretty sure that’s how a fair proportion of this board feel about you, mate. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Nov 25, 2017 21:25:42 GMT
Shit bin. Jesus wept what a wank thread.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 25, 2017 21:26:17 GMT
Glenn was superb for us, but what we need now are two fullbacks most of all! We also need a replacement for Fletcher who really has had a dip in his form the last 3 games! We need someone more mobile and quicker to play alongside Joe Allen, but with the same calmness as Fletcher. Thought Fletch started the season brightly, but hasn't been up for it lately in my opinion!  |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 25, 2017 21:27:01 GMT
Shit bin. Jesus wept what a wank thread. Coming from you I’ll take that as a compliment 😄 |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 25, 2017 21:27:46 GMT
He was awful for a good 2 seasons before we got rid so, nah, of course we don't miss him. Not getting Lemina was the big blow as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by thegift on Nov 25, 2017 21:29:56 GMT
Fuck no. Charlie adam is really starting to get on my tits. He needs to learn to shut the fuck up or fuck off. Some of his comments lately has been making he needs to keep them to himself Pretty sure that’s how a fair proportion of this board feel about you, mate. I'm not a proffesional footballer though. |
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 25, 2017 21:33:47 GMT
We're not missing him as a player but as a character and his professionalism he is irreplaceable.
I've got no inside knowledge but he always seemed to set a very high bar for himself and expected the same of his colleagues.
The incident with Faye where he allegedly offered him out because Faye wasn't taking things seriously enough speaks volumes about Whelan's mindset.
A true pro.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Nov 25, 2017 21:37:33 GMT
In his prime for sure but he was getting on a bit but we replaced him with an older player who isn't as good defensively and who has now started to give the ball away. It's a problem area
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Post by bigdev on Nov 25, 2017 21:38:04 GMT
Whelan keeps on getting better for the Villa according to my mate. The glue in the middle and motm today v Ipswich.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Nov 25, 2017 21:42:15 GMT
Fletcher is a poor replacement - that is for sure He started ok but is now a liability. Every game he makes basic mistakes that put us in danger
However, Glenn and Glenda existed. Nzonzi is the key cog we have never addressed
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Post by medwaypotter on Nov 25, 2017 21:43:02 GMT
Whelan keeps on getting better for the Villa according to my mate. The glue in the middle and motm today v Ipswich. Found his level then. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 25, 2017 21:44:04 GMT
I think a few folk are missing the point of my post,I started this thread because of what Charlie tweeted.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 25, 2017 21:46:30 GMT
I get less convinced by Fletcher all the time. He shows the odd touch of class from when he was in his prime, but he just keeps giving away the ball cheaply and conceding chances. I can see why West Brom supporters felt his legs have gone.
The centre of our midfield needs big money spending on it again.
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Post by Uncle cheese on Nov 25, 2017 21:47:09 GMT
Jesus Christ we were shit last season with him. We are shit this saaon but slightly shitter so I suppose we do but we're still fucking shit |
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Post by femark1 on Nov 25, 2017 21:48:20 GMT
Yes because fletcher is not the upgrade on recent form. Doesn't do the defensive dirty work better and on the ball he has been poor of late.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 25, 2017 21:48:26 GMT
No.
Adam needs to fucking join him.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 25, 2017 21:53:55 GMT
His replacement certainly is not an upgrade that is for sure, he needed upgrading if we were to let him go we let him go and downgraded.
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Post by march4 on Nov 25, 2017 21:55:29 GMT
We are terribly missing Whelan.
Fletcher is a pale imitation defensively and is forever losing the ball in dangerous positions.
We also miss Glenn’s aggression and desire to win.
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Post by jeycov on Nov 25, 2017 21:59:39 GMT
We are missing Cameron atm
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 22:26:38 GMT
We don't need Glenn as such to come back to the club, because the player who did so well for us for his first eight seasons here doesn't exist anymore. the last 1½ year he was struggling and he's mostly struggled at Villa, as far as I know. I think it broke his heart that he was just let go; I feel he had expected to end his playing days here.
Allen and Fletcher plus Cameron were all bought to either lessen his burdens at the time or to replace him. None of them has.
What we do need badly is someone with his leadership qualities. Both Fletcher and Shawcross are good people but they're both too quiet. Whelan was a non stop running commentary, always lashing out if he felt someone wasn't giving their 110%. I credit Glenn with improving Nzonzi, who was a bit lazy when he first came here. If you look at him now at Sevilla he is the spitting image of Glenn, well not exactly, but you can see who influenced him.
We don't have anyone with those qualities in the current team.
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Post by kustokie on Nov 25, 2017 22:31:35 GMT
Fuck no. Charlie adam is really starting to get on my tits. He needs to learn to shut the fuck up or fuck off. Some of his comments lately has been making he needs to keep them to himself Adam is no fool. He knows exactly how to push Hughes’s buttons and get himself transfered in January without putting in a formal transfer request. That way Stoke have to pay him the balance of his contract and he gets a nice signing bonus from the club that buys him. Criticize the boss in public and you’re out! |
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Post by ethers26 on Nov 25, 2017 22:40:05 GMT
We miss Cameron more than anybody. Versatile and gets about the pitch.
Formation for me has to be 4231
Zouma Ryan BMI Pieters (begrudgingly)
Cameron Afellay
Diouf Shaqiri Choupo
Anyone.
Allen and Fletcher are like rabbits in headlights. There's a case to argue Allen should get in, but Cameron mops up well and Afellay is the best player on the ball we have.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 22:40:47 GMT
Fletcher is doing a fine job of imitating him this season.
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Post by sportsman on Nov 25, 2017 22:47:48 GMT
N’Zonzi. And 2x wing backs. We would be a completely different proposition. Listening to Phil Thompson on soccer Saturday saying Seville got better when they took nzonzi off at half time against Liverpool as he was slowing them up and taking them sideways and backwards. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 23:04:58 GMT
In that game yes. But over a full season he's one of the key players.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 25, 2017 23:12:14 GMT
We're not missing Whelan on the pitch. Maybe off it. What we are missing is an NZonzi type. Someone physically strong but can pass a ball as well as mix it. Glen was a great servant but we'd be no better with him.
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