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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 27, 2017 7:57:56 GMT
So you want us to bring in Pulis right now and then get rid of him at the end of the season, regardless of what he achieves? And you can't see just why people are suggesting you're on a wind up? I would trust Pulis more than anyone to keep us up right now, yes. But then i would want a fresh manager with fresh ideas in the summer, once survival has been confirmed. That’s a caveat you didn’t see fit to introduce before, any particular reason? And you’d give Pulis a truckload of money to build a Pulis squad in January and then get rid for ‘fresh ideas’ with that same squad, now carved in his image, that summer? If Pulis came in you could wave goodbye to Shaqiri for starters.
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 10:16:10 GMT
I would trust Pulis more than anyone to keep us up right now, yes. But then i would want a fresh manager with fresh ideas in the summer, once survival has been confirmed. That’s a caveat you didn’t see fit to introduce before, any particular reason? And you’d give Pulis a truckload of money to build a Pulis squad in January and then get rid for ‘fresh ideas’ with that same squad, now carved in his image, that summer? If Pulis came in you could wave goodbye to Shaqiri for starters. Pulis doesn't need any money to keep us up. Our team is more than good enough. Its the manager that's the problem not the team. I never mentioned about giving Pulis any money, stop making bullshit up.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 27, 2017 10:50:20 GMT
That’s a caveat you didn’t see fit to introduce before, any particular reason? And you’d give Pulis a truckload of money to build a Pulis squad in January and then get rid for ‘fresh ideas’ with that same squad, now carved in his image, that summer? If Pulis came in you could wave goodbye to Shaqiri for starters. Pulis doesn't need any money to keep us up. Our team is more than good enough. Its the manager that's the problem not the team. I never mentioned about giving Pulis any money, stop making bullshit up. Pulis doesn’t need any money? Are you for real?
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 10:53:41 GMT
Pulis doesn't need any money to keep us up. Our team is more than good enough. Its the manager that's the problem not the team. I never mentioned about giving Pulis any money, stop making bullshit up. Pulis doesn’t need any money? Are you for real? Pulis does best without any money to spend. Our team is good enough to survive in this league without spending a single penny more. Yes we could improve in certain places, but apart from man city, who doesn't.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 27, 2017 11:03:11 GMT
Pulis doesn’t need any money? Are you for real? Pulis does best without any money to spend. Our team is good enough to survive in this league without spending a single penny more. Yes we could improve in certain places, but apart from man city, who doesn't. You think Pulis wouldn’t demand a war chest as a condition of coming back? Any manager taking over a top flight club just before a transfer window would, not least one who likes to spend money and has the highest net spend of any Stoke manager in history.
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Nov 27, 2017 11:38:00 GMT
The buck doesn’t stop with Hughes, but I do hold him accountable for 1. Not publicly defending or owning his transfer policy. If he isn’t in control he needs to say so. 2. Playing the wrong players in the wrong formation.
Regardless of when/if Hughes gets sacked, there are other people responsible for this clusterfuk who will keep collecting their massive salaries and screw the next Manager.
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Post by milky on Nov 27, 2017 11:43:50 GMT
For all Hughes faults..and currently he has a few..getting rid won't even come close to solving the fundamental issues.
We are complacent, arrogant even , right from the top.
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 11:48:27 GMT
Pulis does best without any money to spend. Our team is good enough to survive in this league without spending a single penny more. Yes we could improve in certain places, but apart from man city, who doesn't. You think Pulis wouldn’t demand a war chest as a condition of coming back? Any manager taking over a top flight club just before a transfer window would, not least one who likes to spend money and has the highest net spend of any Stoke manager in history. give him 5M reward bonus to keep us up this season. Job done.
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Post by milky on Nov 27, 2017 11:57:51 GMT
You think Pulis wouldn’t demand a war chest as a condition of coming back? Any manager taking over a top flight club just before a transfer window would, not least one who likes to spend money and has the highest net spend of any Stoke manager in history. give him 5M reward bonus to keep us up this season. Job done. If we do have a good team (your words) why would Pulis be the only manager who could possibly keep us out of the championship ? Give him a 5 million bonus ? What's the weather doing in La La land ?
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 12:05:37 GMT
give him 5M reward bonus to keep us up this season. Job done. If we do have a good team (your words) why would Pulis be the only manager who could possibly keep us out of the championship ? Give him a 5 million bonus ? What's the weather doing in La La land ? £5M is nothing to peter coates, but fuck if we go down we would lose a lot more. Your clueless about football mate, £5M is nothing in this era Pulis isnt the only one that could keep us up, but he would get my vote due to being tried and tested.
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Post by milky on Nov 27, 2017 12:09:16 GMT
If we do have a good team (your words) why would Pulis be the only manager who could possibly keep us out of the championship ? Give him a 5 million bonus ? What's the weather doing in La La land ? £5M is nothing to peter coates, but fuck if we go down we would lose a lot more. Your clueless about football mate, £5M is nothing in this era Pulis isnt the only one that could keep us up, but he would get my vote due to being tried and tested. No it's not you're right..but you're talking like we are dead and buried when we are just one of several in a sea of mediocrity/General shiteness.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 27, 2017 12:12:59 GMT
You think Pulis wouldn’t demand a war chest as a condition of coming back? Any manager taking over a top flight club just before a transfer window would, not least one who likes to spend money and has the highest net spend of any Stoke manager in history. give him 5M reward bonus to keep us up this season. Job done. Football. Doesn’t. Work. Like. That.
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 12:20:19 GMT
give him 5M reward bonus to keep us up this season. Job done. Football. Doesn’t. Work. Like. That. I'm not saying its guaranteed that he would keep us up... I'm sure he would take £5M for half a season.
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 12:21:18 GMT
£5M is nothing to peter coates, but fuck if we go down we would lose a lot more. Your clueless about football mate, £5M is nothing in this era Pulis isnt the only one that could keep us up, but he would get my vote due to being tried and tested. No it's not you're right..but you're talking like we are dead and buried when we are just one of several in a sea of mediocrity/General shiteness. We cant take a point of bottom of the table, who couldn't fucking pass wind yet they put 2 past us. If that isn't a cause for concern i don't know what is.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 27, 2017 12:24:06 GMT
Football. Doesn’t. Work. Like. That. I'm not saying its guaranteed that he would keep us up... I'm sure he would take £5M for half a season. He’d still want to bring his own players in during the transfer window. And then he’d be off. We’d be in an Allardyce/De Boer situation.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 27, 2017 12:29:05 GMT
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Post by RAF on Nov 27, 2017 12:49:32 GMT
Clearly Foster was never allowed access to the dossier! H
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 12:52:38 GMT
I'm not saying its guaranteed that he would keep us up... I'm sure he would take £5M for half a season. He’d still want to bring his own players in during the transfer window. And then he’d be off. We’d be in an Allardyce/De Boer situation. Well he doesn't need to, so put that in his clause that he wont get any money to buy anyone new.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 27, 2017 13:00:38 GMT
He’d still want to bring his own players in during the transfer window. And then he’d be off. We’d be in an Allardyce/De Boer situation. Well he doesn't need to, so put that in his clause that he wont get any money to buy anyone new. And he’ll say thanks very much lads, but I’m ok ta. I thought you wanted us to ‘have a go home and away’? How would bringing back Pulis, a man who by the end was doing neither, help in that regard?
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Post by milky on Nov 27, 2017 13:44:40 GMT
No it's not you're right..but you're talking like we are dead and buried when we are just one of several in a sea of mediocrity/General shiteness. We cant take a point of bottom of the table, who couldn't fucking pass wind yet they put 2 past us. If that isn't a cause for concern i don't know what is. If Tone comes back I'd get used to watching a team who can't pass wind.
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 27, 2017 13:51:07 GMT
We cant take a point of bottom of the table, who couldn't fucking pass wind yet they put 2 past us. If that isn't a cause for concern i don't know what is. If Tone comes back I'd get used to watching a team who can't pass wind. Don't forget the neck ache from looking up in the sky at the ball
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 14:11:28 GMT
Well he doesn't need to, so put that in his clause that he wont get any money to buy anyone new. And he’ll say thanks very much lads, but I’m ok ta. I thought you wanted us to ‘have a go home and away’? How would bringing back Pulis, a man who by the end was doing neither, help in that regard? It wouldn't help us with pulis in charge having a go home and away. But the way our seasons going, if we are fighting relegation, Pulis will keep us up which would be the priority. Hughes wont have a go, home and away, he would sit back like pulis does, but are defense is all over the shop, at least with TP there was some structure to it. So as your picking little things out of everything i write and twisting it, let me make it a lot clearer for you OPTION AMy first choice replacement is NOT TP. Big sam Benitez, Koeman, Brendan rogers I would have any of them to take over, then start attacking home and away and actually having a go at teams and making it a little bit more exciting to watch. And yes investment would be needed at this point with a new fresh manager. OPTION BIf we cant find a suitable replacement and fast, get TP back, give him no funds, steady the ship and ensure premier league survival is met. Then prepare for a new manager in the summer. OPTION CIf the worst happens and we get relegated, keep Tp to hopefully get us straight back up into the top flight. IS THIS A LOT CLEARER for your tiny mind to understand? Mark Hughes must go.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 27, 2017 14:23:10 GMT
And he’ll say thanks very much lads, but I’m ok ta. I thought you wanted us to ‘have a go home and away’? How would bringing back Pulis, a man who by the end was doing neither, help in that regard? It wouldn't help us with pulis in charge having a go home and away. But the way our seasons going, if we are fighting relegation, Pulis will keep us up which would be the priority. Hughes wont have a go, home and away, he would sit back like pulis does, but are defense is all over the shop, at least with TP there was some structure to it. So as your picking little things out of everything i write and twisting it, let me make it a lot clearer for you OPTION AMy first choice replacement is NOT TP. Big sam Benitez, Koeman, Brendan rogers I would have any of them to take over, then start attacking home and away and actually having a go at teams and making it a little bit more exciting to watch. And yes investment would be needed at this point with a new fresh manager. OPTION BIf we cant find a suitable replacement and fast, get TP back, give him no funds, steady the ship and ensure premier league survival is met. Then prepare for a new manager in the summer. OPTION CIf the worst happens and we get relegated, keep Tp to hopefully get us straight back up into the top flight. IS THIS A LOT CLEARER for your tiny mind to understand? Mark Hughes must go. I’m not picking out the little things, just the wild contradictions, pasa.
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Post by skip on Nov 27, 2017 14:26:17 GMT
If we do have a good team (your words) why would Pulis be the only manager who could possibly keep us out of the championship ? Give him a 5 million bonus ? What's the weather doing in La La land ? £5M is nothing to peter coates, but fuck if we go down we would lose a lot more. Your clueless about football mate, £5M is nothing in this era Pulis isnt the only one that could keep us up, but he would get my vote due to being tried and tested. Then why did WBA get rid of him the other week? Coates won't trust him to keep him up if Hughes was sacked. Could you imagine the painful perverse irony if Pulis took us down, losing his mythical status at the club where the status first achieved national prominence? He's the last manager Coates will bring in, IF he got rid of Hughes.
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 14:30:49 GMT
£5M is nothing to peter coates, but fuck if we go down we would lose a lot more. Your clueless about football mate, £5M is nothing in this era Pulis isnt the only one that could keep us up, but he would get my vote due to being tried and tested. Then why did WBA get rid of him the other week? Coates won't trust him to keep him up if Hughes was sacked. Could you imagine the painful perverse irony if Pulis took us down, losing his mythical status at the club where the status first achieved national prominence? He's the last manager Coates will bring in, IF he got rid of Hughes. West brom at best are a bottom 8 team. There team is very poor. What was the west brom board thinking? Top 4 finish?
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Post by skip on Nov 27, 2017 14:33:02 GMT
Then why did WBA get rid of him the other week? Coates won't trust him to keep him up if Hughes was sacked. Could you imagine the painful perverse irony if Pulis took us down, losing his mythical status at the club where the status first achieved national prominence? He's the last manager Coates will bring in, IF he got rid of Hughes. West brom at best are a bottom 8 team. There team is very poor. What was the west brom board thinking? Top 4 finish? Whatever their board is thinking it's certainly not "Pulis is the man for the job to keep us safe in the world's most visible footballing league."
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 27, 2017 14:34:26 GMT
Then why did WBA get rid of him the other week? Coates won't trust him to keep him up if Hughes was sacked. Could you imagine the painful perverse irony if Pulis took us down, losing his mythical status at the club where the status first achieved national prominence? He's the last manager Coates will bring in, IF he got rid of Hughes. West brom at best are a bottom 8 team. There team is very poor. What was the west brom board thinking? Top 4 finish? They were probably thinking they’d not won in 10, the Football was eye-bleedingly terrible and they have players to do better than where they currently are in terms of results and performances. More or less the sort of stuff that makes a lot of our fans keen for a change as well.
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 14:36:48 GMT
West brom at best are a bottom 8 team. There team is very poor. What was the west brom board thinking? Top 4 finish? They were probably thinking they’d not won in 10, the Football was eye-bleedingly terrible and they have players to do better than where they currently are in terms of results and performances. More or less the sort of stuff that makes a lot of our fans keen for a change as well. Hence the breath of fresh air pulis would bring to our club for the remainder of this season.
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Post by milky on Nov 27, 2017 14:39:33 GMT
They were probably thinking they’d not won in 10, the Football was eye-bleedingly terrible and they have players to do better than where they currently are in terms of results and performances. More or less the sort of stuff that makes a lot of our fans keen for a change as well. Hence the breath of fresh air pulis would bring to our club for the remainder of this season. You're either on a massive wind up or completey off your head.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 27, 2017 14:41:31 GMT
They were probably thinking they’d not won in 10, the Football was eye-bleedingly terrible and they have players to do better than where they currently are in terms of results and performances. More or less the sort of stuff that makes a lot of our fans keen for a change as well. Hence the breath of fresh air pulis would bring to our club for the remainder of this season. That makes literally no sense.
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