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Post by kevkj on Nov 25, 2017 21:08:09 GMT
This premiersip manager merry go round malarkey.
I dont get it Pulis,Koeman,Moyes,Hodgson,Hughes ,Pardew etc etc etc.
They fail and then get re-rewarded in the next job.
There must be top managers all over Europe,some managing Europa league clubs who would kill for a prem managers job.I dont get it.
Is it all a gentlemans club thing.
"Vis Unita Fortior"
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Post by thedarkknight on Nov 25, 2017 21:14:47 GMT
Think it's a stretch to put Koeman in with that rabble.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 25, 2017 21:16:04 GMT
This premiersip manager merry go round malarkey. I dont get it Pulis,Koeman,Moyes,Hodgson,Hughes ,Pardew etc etc etc. They fail and then get re-rewarded in the next job. There must be top managers all over Europe,some managing Europa league clubs who would kill for a prem managers job.I dont get it. Is it all a gentlemans club thing. "Vis Unita Fortior" Lazy chairman more than anything else Kev. |
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Post by skip on Nov 25, 2017 21:18:34 GMT
Laziness and a gentlemen’s club, all symptomatic of the same thing. Could you imagine any other walk of life where ineptitude or such being rewarded so handsomely?
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Post by thegift on Nov 25, 2017 21:19:06 GMT
Drivel.
Pulis was brought to west brom because they were doing shit and were struggling to stay up. He kept them afloat, then stabilised them as a mid table team. With the players they have got, similar to ourselves, we are never going to make top 6 so eventually the manager will change to someone one else as they want to progress but it never quite happens like that.
Just because they have 1 poor season it doesn't mean they have 'failed'
Same for Koeman.
Where as hughes,
did shit at QPR
shit at stoke
and shit at man city
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Post by stokeykez on Nov 25, 2017 21:21:45 GMT
I think Everton have shown they have deeper issues than all could have been blamed on koeman so I don't see him in that bracket.
I think expectations were that Everton were to be top 6 given what the media had perceived they spent.
I would love koeman at stoke. It won't happen but I think the level of expectation would be greatly less as we do not think we have a place in top 8 like they do.
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Post by femark1 on Nov 25, 2017 21:22:37 GMT
They've all had success with a prem team. Most foreign managers haven't, therefore chairman see less risk in them.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 25, 2017 21:26:09 GMT
Laziness and a gentlemen’s club, all symptomatic of the same thing. Could you imagine any other walk of life where ineptitude or such being rewarded so handsomely? Politicians? |
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 25, 2017 21:29:03 GMT
Everybody knows Big Sam will keep us up, but he won't be able to make us more than a steady candidate for a 10th place. Anyway I'll accept that any day as long as we can have a decent cup run now and then!  |
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Post by fletchthestokie1 on Nov 26, 2017 1:08:21 GMT
It’s incredible to me that such a good Striker as Hughes can’t find a good Striker! It’s his Achilles heel, as is his love affair with midfielders...can’t ever have enough!
For me, he should be given the season as I don’t think he’ll take us down. He should be told to buy two fast (one big and fast) Strikers in January and be left to get on with the rest of it.
Come end of season, if he hasn’t shown he can get us back up to at least top 10 then it’s probably time to move on as it’s gotten stale. Stale ends up in relegation trouble.
All those managers mentioned have done good jobs at their clubs and all have had bad times too. I’d happily take an Allardyce as I think he’d be half way between Hughes and Pulis, bringing the best of both. Pardew is too much of a roller coaster ride for me. Koeman would be acceptable as he only had one bad 10 game run and was great for Soton and Everton for the vast majority of the time he was there.
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Post by kustokie on Nov 26, 2017 1:16:58 GMT
Drivel. Pulis was brought to west brom because they were doing shit and were struggling to stay up. He kept them afloat, then stabilised them as a mid table team. With the players they have got, similar to ourselves, we are never going to make top 6 so eventually the manager will change to someone one else as they want to progress but it never quite happens like that. Just because they have 1 poor season it doesn't mean they have 'failed' Same for Koeman. Where as hughes, did shit at QPR shit at stoke and shit at man city and quit after 11 months at Fulham (strange). Living on the back of a great reputation as a player and a couple of good years as Blackburn. Never won anything as a manager. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Nov 26, 2017 2:35:58 GMT
Drivel. Pulis was brought to west brom because they were doing shit and were struggling to stay up. He kept them afloat, then stabilised them as a mid table team. With the players they have got, similar to ourselves, we are never going to make top 6 so eventually the manager will change to someone one else as they want to progress but it never quite happens like that. Just because they have 1 poor season it doesn't mean they have 'failed' Same for Koeman. Where as hughes, did shit at QPR shit at stoke and shit at man city You are a shit wind up in a sea of shit wind ups. Fuck off. Do we always have to have the same generic insults and wind up comments whenever there's a disagreement? |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 26, 2017 8:16:36 GMT
Laziness and a gentlemen’s club, all symptomatic of the same thing. Could you imagine any other walk of life where ineptitude or such being rewarded so handsomely? Politics. |
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Post by superheroantonius on Nov 26, 2017 8:30:49 GMT
Drivel. Pulis was brought to west brom because they were doing shit and were struggling to stay up. He kept them afloat, then stabilised them as a mid table team. With the players they have got, similar to ourselves, we are never going to make top 6 so eventually the manager will change to someone one else as they want to progress but it never quite happens like that. Just because they have 1 poor season it doesn't mean they have 'failed' Same for Koeman. Where as hughes, did shit at QPR shit at stoke and shit at man city How is Hughes in a job ? I remember when people on this board ( ie stoke fans ) who wanted him out in the summer were asked ... Okay if not Hughes then who ? They said .. Rafa ? Chris Hughton? Marco Silva ? Chris wilder ? David Wagner ? Gary rowett ? In hindsight ANY of them would have been a hughes upgrade And I am sure if they had been approached , one or two would have been interested A bit of positive thinking goes a long way Inertia achieves nothing |
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Post by mattface on Nov 26, 2017 9:33:06 GMT
Drivel. Pulis was brought to west brom because they were doing shit and were struggling to stay up. He kept them afloat, then stabilised them as a mid table team. With the players they have got, similar to ourselves, we are never going to make top 6 so eventually the manager will change to someone one else as they want to progress but it never quite happens like that. Just because they have 1 poor season it doesn't mean they have 'failed' Same for Koeman. Where as hughes, did shit at QPR shit at stoke and shit at man city Doing shit at Stoke, after 3 seasons of breaking records etc etc |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 26, 2017 15:52:48 GMT
You are a shit wind up in a sea of shit wind ups. Fuck off. Do we always have to have the same generic insults and wind up comments whenever there's a disagreement? Do we always? No. Do we when someone is patently talking shit for a reaction? Abso-fucking-lutely. I can laboriously dismantle his completely inaccurate, bullshit points piece by agonising piece if you like, but the original riposte was pithier and saves everyone some time. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Nov 26, 2017 17:02:36 GMT
Do we always have to have the same generic insults and wind up comments whenever there's a disagreement? Do we always? No. Do we when someone is patently talking shit for a reaction? Abso-fucking-lutely. I can laboriously dismantle his completely inaccurate, bullshit points piece by agonising piece if you like, but the original riposte was pithier and saves everyone some time. He's not talking shit for a reaction, it's just an opinion. If anybody's trying to get a reaction it is yourself with your boring generic insults. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 26, 2017 17:05:49 GMT
Do we always? No. Do we when someone is patently talking shit for a reaction? Abso-fucking-lutely. I can laboriously dismantle his completely inaccurate, bullshit points piece by agonising piece if you like, but the original riposte was pithier and saves everyone some time. He's not talking shit for a reaction, it's just an opinion. If anybody's trying to get a reaction it is yourself with your boring generic insults. He’s on a wind up mate. He told us in the week Pulis ‘would be a breath of fresh air’. Nobody in their right minds really thinks that. |
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Post by localloser on Nov 26, 2017 17:10:01 GMT
Laziness and a gentlemen’s club, all symptomatic of the same thing. Could you imagine any other walk of life where ineptitude or such being rewarded so handsomely? Politics. And bankers |
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Post by nott1 on Nov 26, 2017 17:15:19 GMT
Managers must all want the sack nowadays and why would they not? Pick up a couple of million compo and on to the next multi million job!
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Post by TexasPotter on Nov 26, 2017 17:18:38 GMT
I don’t care if we join the craziness of it all if we start winning games like Palace have just done something has to give.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Nov 26, 2017 17:59:14 GMT
He's not talking shit for a reaction, it's just an opinion. If anybody's trying to get a reaction it is yourself with your boring generic insults. He’s on a wind up mate. He told us in the week Pulis ‘would be a breath of fresh air’. Nobody in their right minds really thinks that. I did't see his other quotes regarding Pulis, but from that quote I don't see it as a windup, I only get that impression from march4 |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 26, 2017 18:03:17 GMT
He’s on a wind up mate. He told us in the week Pulis ‘would be a breath of fresh air’. Nobody in their right minds really thinks that. I did't see his other quotes regarding Pulis, but from that quote I don't see it as a windup, I only get that impression from march4 If you'd seen his other posts I suspect you'd think differently. If he's serious then he doesn't have a scooby what he's talking about. |
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Post by thegift on Nov 26, 2017 23:14:30 GMT
Drivel. Pulis was brought to west brom because they were doing shit and were struggling to stay up. He kept them afloat, then stabilised them as a mid table team. With the players they have got, similar to ourselves, we are never going to make top 6 so eventually the manager will change to someone one else as they want to progress but it never quite happens like that. Just because they have 1 poor season it doesn't mean they have 'failed' Same for Koeman. Where as hughes, did shit at QPR shit at stoke and shit at man city You are a shit wind up in a sea of shit wind ups. Fuck off. Im winding no one up. |
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Post by thegift on Nov 26, 2017 23:16:13 GMT
Drivel. Pulis was brought to west brom because they were doing shit and were struggling to stay up. He kept them afloat, then stabilised them as a mid table team. With the players they have got, similar to ourselves, we are never going to make top 6 so eventually the manager will change to someone one else as they want to progress but it never quite happens like that. Just because they have 1 poor season it doesn't mean they have 'failed' Same for Koeman. Where as hughes, did shit at QPR shit at stoke and shit at man city Doing shit at Stoke, after 3 seasons of breaking records etc etc Breaking records of wasting the most money on absolute shitters, yeah you got that right. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 26, 2017 23:18:51 GMT
Good managers in Europe doesn't guarantee you good managers in the premiership!!!
It's always a gamble!!!
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Post by thegift on Nov 26, 2017 23:30:30 GMT
He’s on a wind up mate. He told us in the week Pulis ‘would be a breath of fresh air’. Nobody in their right minds really thinks that. I did't see his other quotes regarding Pulis, but from that quote I don't see it as a windup, I only get that impression from march4 I haven't made 900 posts to wind people up. Watching stoke for the last 18 months has become a chore, its not exciting, i don't really look forward to it, and i am bored of mark hughes. This doesn't mean i am on a wind up. As for Pulis being a breath of fresh air, any new management would be after watching this tripe for years. I think Pulis would do a great job for the remainder of this season and this season only. |
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 27, 2017 1:45:41 GMT
Drivel. Pulis was brought to west brom because they were doing shit and were struggling to stay up. He kept them afloat, then stabilised them as a mid table team. With the players they have got, similar to ourselves, we are never going to make top 6 so eventually the manager will change to someone one else as they want to progress but it never quite happens like that. Just because they have 1 poor season it doesn't mean they have 'failed' Same for Koeman. Where as hughes, did shit at QPR shit at stoke and shit at man city Depends what you call shit. Hughes took Stoke to its most successful 3 year stint in the club’s history. Then he’s had a mottled patch fo 22 months. But hey let’s not give any credit and just call his entire spell shit. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 27, 2017 1:53:06 GMT
I did't see his other quotes regarding Pulis, but from that quote I don't see it as a windup, I only get that impression from march4 I haven't made 900 posts to wind people up. Watching stoke for the last 18 months has become a chore, its not exciting, i don't really look forward to it, and i am bored of mark hughes. This doesn't mean i am on a wind up. As for Pulis being a breath of fresh air, any new management would be after watching this tripe for years. I think Pulis would do a great job for the remainder of this season and this season only. So you want us to bring in Pulis right now and then get rid of him at the end of the season, regardless of what he achieves? And you can't see just why people are suggesting you're on a wind up? |
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Post by thegift on Nov 27, 2017 2:58:49 GMT
I haven't made 900 posts to wind people up. Watching stoke for the last 18 months has become a chore, its not exciting, i don't really look forward to it, and i am bored of mark hughes. This doesn't mean i am on a wind up. As for Pulis being a breath of fresh air, any new management would be after watching this tripe for years. I think Pulis would do a great job for the remainder of this season and this season only. So you want us to bring in Pulis right now and then get rid of him at the end of the season, regardless of what he achieves? And you can't see just why people are suggesting you're on a wind up? I would trust Pulis more than anyone to keep us up right now, yes. But then i would want a fresh manager with fresh ideas in the summer, once survival has been confirmed. |
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