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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 4, 2018 11:06:32 GMT
Odemwingie was old too and a season out at his age was what did for him.
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 4, 2018 11:11:03 GMT
Odemwingie was old too and a season out at his age was what did for him. I remember when we swapped him for KJ, my dad and Granddad said he'll be toss, he's past it, has been I said to them he will score goals for us Glad I was proved right, he was a great player and sad to see he didn't quite get the time he probably should have had in the team because of injury.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 4, 2018 11:17:35 GMT
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Post by cruxmeister on Jan 4, 2018 11:29:49 GMT
At this point I would say bring him back and give him one last run at it with us. Send Jese back to Spain and give Bojan a chance. If he feels like he is wanted and needed to come and help us, he might find a bit of form. Seems like a player who needs to feel loved. Get him back, tell him its a clean slate and he has 10 games to prove his talent. He will either win or lose, but it can't be any worse than what we currently have. Do I think he will come and rip it up? Probably not, but Jese and Saido won't either! And lets face it, no new players are coming our way while we tell the world we might or might not sack our manager!
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Post by tosh on Jan 4, 2018 11:32:37 GMT
For a time Bojan was brilliant for us. His problems seem to be in his mind. He is very much a confidence player. He seems to need to be loved by his fans, team mates and coach. When he had that and good players around him (as he did with Arnie and Shaq) he showed there was a class player in there. His family were so chuffed when he found those conditions here, that they all travelled over for Christmas to watch him. Not sure if we could recreate that again, but maybe worth a new manager giving it a go? He is under contract for another 3 years anyway.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 4, 2018 11:38:53 GMT
I think any new manager might drag Bojan back. Jese is a waste of a squad space at the moment and Bojan knows the club and the players. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we're looking to replace Jese but can't help feeling Hughes might not be keen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 11:45:30 GMT
Comparing Bojan to Allen? Allen runs more and doesnt get pushed off the ball by bigger players as much as bojan....but bojan has more skill?
Would welcome him back
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 12:05:58 GMT
At this point I would say bring him back and give him one last run at it with us. Send Jese back to Spain and give Bojan a chance. If he feels like he is wanted and needed to come and help us, he might find a bit of form. Seems like a player who needs to feel loved. Get him back, tell him its a clean slate and he has 10 games to prove his talent. He will either win or lose, but it can't be any worse than what we currently have. Do I think he will come and rip it up? Probably not, but Jese and Saido won't either! And lets face it, no new players are coming our way while we tell the world we might or might not sack our manager! His contract with us runs another 2½ years so there is no point in giving him "10 games" to prove himself or. Moreover he doesn't deserve to be treated that way. He deserves a run in the team, but last time his slate was clean Hughes gave him a run of one game and then dropped him. So despite the fact that Hughes resurrected his career when he signed him - and appeared to have a fatherly relationship with him - Bojan must be hoping that a new manager will appear soon. Yeah me too. It's the only way that his slate will be truly clean. If he does get to appear we will have to drop Crouch. Their playing styles insofaras Stoke goes are just too opposite each other. Long poofballs that bypass everyone else are just detriment to anything that Bojan can provide. However Crouch now has 1½ years on his contract, so what do you do?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 12:15:41 GMT
Bojans contract extension was a strange one. It coincided with Hughes sticking him on the substitutes bench and not being a regular starter. He still had plenty of time left on his original contract so no need to rush through an extension. I wonder who at the club thought it was a good idea at the time as the manager wasn't so sure looking at his team selections. The second contract made perfect sense at the time, as the first one came with several stipulations by Barcelona. That contract was effectively bought out but it did require a new one, and while they were at it they gave him five years. This all happened when there was belief that he would be the greatest Stoke star since Stan. Sadly it all turned out differently.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 12:51:49 GMT
Bojans contract extension was a strange one. It coincided with Hughes sticking him on the substitutes bench and not being a regular starter. He still had plenty of time left on his original contract so no need to rush through an extension. I wonder who at the club thought it was a good idea at the time as the manager wasn't so sure looking at his team selections. The second contract made perfect sense at the time, as the first one came with several stipulations by Barcelona. That contract was effectively bought out but it did require a new one, and while they were at it they gave him five years. This all happened when there was belief that he would be the greatest Stoke star since Stan. Sadly it all turned out differently. It happened just as he was relegated to the subs bench and became a bit part player after the League Cup semi final. If you make someone the highest paid player at the club he better be starting every week and Hughes had already decided he wasn't. We had some shocking results/performances at the end of the season and Bojan was still not starting games
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 4, 2018 14:35:18 GMT
Yes I really feel for him sitting in the sun earning millions whilst achieving the square root of sod all I feel for him cause his career is going downhill fast.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jan 5, 2018 11:53:33 GMT
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 5, 2018 13:23:04 GMT
Mutual agreement to cancel contract at Stoke?
Sad really, the way he's going he might be the Barcelona hot dog man before long, someone needs to have a word with him
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Post by mt on Jan 5, 2018 13:59:53 GMT
He has lost his way after Barcelona and brings less and less for every season and every club he joins. As most of the players at this level he have some good games from time to time, of course, but not often enough and people shouldnt be blinded about a good game every 12th game . He is not good enough to turn this around, there should be other type of players the club should go for at the moment.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jan 5, 2018 14:04:35 GMT
Mutual agreement to cancel contract at Stoke? Sad really, the way he's going he might be the Barcelona hot dog man before long, someone needs to have a word with him He'd do well at Celtic.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 5, 2018 14:54:39 GMT
Mutual agreement to cancel contract at Stoke? Sad really, the way he's going he might be the Barcelona hot dog man before long, someone needs to have a word with him He'd do well at Celtic. Think he get eaten alive up there!!
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 5, 2018 15:14:29 GMT
Mutual agreement to cancel contract at Stoke? Sad really, the way he's going he might be the Barcelona hot dog man before long, someone needs to have a word with him He'd do well at Celtic. If it's a question of desire he can come to work with me for 2 week on a shitty horrible building site as my bitch for a couple of hundred quid a week. He'll be like a new signing after 🤣
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Post by supacoopa101 on Jan 5, 2018 17:50:30 GMT
It is a real shame about this little maestro because I am a massive fan of his. Something or someone has obviously got to him because initially it seemed after his horrific injury he was doing all he could to get back to his absolute best (Pre Rochdale). Sadly and I do say this with a heavy heart, it just doesn't seem to have happened for him. He doesn't want to come back to Stoke and is struggling to get into a poor Spanish side, so the question is what do we do with him? Do we terminate his contract by mutual agreement? I would personally call him back, have a word with him saying that if you perform and manage to contribute in keeping us in this league, we will find a new club for you next year plus give him a bonus. We all know there is a player in there somewhere and at the moment we need all the help we can get.
Get the little maestro back where he belongs Hughes!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 5, 2018 17:56:46 GMT
Well at least he doesn't need to work ever again.
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 5, 2018 18:00:31 GMT
It is a real shame about this little maestro because I am a massive fan of his. Something or someone has obviously got to him because initially it seemed after his horrific injury he was doing all he could to get back to his absolute best (Pre Rochdale). Sadly and I do say this with a heavy heart, it just doesn't seem to have happened for him. He doesn't want to come back to Stoke and is struggling to get into a poor Spanish side, so the question is what do we do with him? Do we terminate his contract by mutual agreement? I would personally call him back, have a word with him saying that if you perform and manage to contribute in keeping us in this league, we will find a new club for you next year plus give him a bonus. We all know there is a player in there somewhere and at the moment we need all the help we can get. Get the little maestro back where he belongs Hughes! It would be interesting to know what his reasons are for not wanting to return to Stoke, is it only the manager? He's had an injury but he can't use that as an excuse forever, it's part of his profession. He seemed to lose his hunger here before being loaned out, people were slating him for lack of effort. Maybe he just doesnt get the buzz anymore or can't deal with the criticism
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 5, 2018 18:06:26 GMT
Bojan was amazing for a bit
Not his fault re the injury but he is gone as proven where ever he now plays
Some great moments but Lord knows why we gave him a new massive contract post the injury Yet more stupiddity from the club
The lad is a professional footballer and only has an affinity to our club when it matters - same as most
As Sloppy Chops said, which is so true - kissing the badge - give me a break
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 18:43:41 GMT
2nd top scorer the season after his injury, despite being injured for the first month and being dropped in April, which coincided with our loss of form. Hasn't started more than 2 in a row since then. Would love to see him next to Choupo and Shaq behind Berahino. Would certainly be an improvement even if he's out of form.
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Post by leicspotter on Jan 5, 2018 18:51:59 GMT
I still believe that the main problem is in his head. Ever since that injury he seemed to be frightened both of challenges and to extend himself running...even being out sprinted by a lumbering centre back
It really is a crying shame for all that talent to go to waste...maybe he needs some sessions with a hypnotist?
"Right Mr Bo, when I click my fingers you will turn (back) into Lionel Messi"
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Post by adamsson on Jan 5, 2018 19:11:44 GMT
Mutual agreement to cancel contract at Stoke? Sad really, the way he's going he might be the Barcelona hot dog man before long, someone needs to have a word with him You do realise that if a club cancels a contract it has to be paid in full immediately. Bonuses etc subject to negotiation.
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 5, 2018 19:19:00 GMT
Mutual agreement to cancel contract at Stoke? Sad really, the way he's going he might be the Barcelona hot dog man before long, someone needs to have a word with him You do realise that if a club cancels a contract it has to be paid in full immediately. Bonuses etc subject to negotiation. What is the answer then? Fancy saying he doesn't want to come back to his parent club
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Post by scfc1982 on Jan 5, 2018 19:53:08 GMT
Would of loved to see him play 10-15 games on the trot for them then he would of been firing on all cylinders but he hasn't so not sure he would offer to us now
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 5, 2018 20:01:47 GMT
Get him back at the end of the season sit him in the under 23s Or loan him out to the vale If he refuses sue the arse off the waster
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 20:05:28 GMT
Where does it say that Bojan categgorically does not want to come back to Stoke and where does it say that mutual agreement has been offered? Nowhere as far as I can see.
Somebody posted that he very much wanted to come back and fulfill the terms of his contract.
I suspect he feels let down by Hughes - even though Hughes resurrected his career - and that he awaits the ongoing situation.
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Post by Linx on Jan 5, 2018 20:32:40 GMT
Bojan has been a complete flop wherever he went after leaving Barca He only looked good (for some time at least) at Stoke because we are so shite. So shite that we rolled over Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal at various points during his first two seasons with us, and finished ninth both times. Just because we are shite now does not mean we were shite then.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 5, 2018 23:01:00 GMT
Don't know how reliable this is? cadenaser.com/emisora/2018/01/05/ser_vitoria/1515189620_546503.htmlCountdown to the Guidetti announcement and the possible departure of Bojan The Alavés intends to give Bojan Krkic exit to get rid of one of the highest cards of the staff (close to one and a half million euros) and thus be able to have more room to undertake other hirings . Bojan has only been a starter in 5 games with Alavés and his departure is being planted. Among other options, he has a significant US offer on the table . The Alavés would finalize his assignment and the player would return to the English Stoke City, equipment owner of his rights. Several weeks ago, Bojan's father was in Vitoria, and met with Sergio Fernández to discuss issues such as the role of his son . A player called to be important when he signed, but has barely had a few opportunities that he has not been able to take advantage either.
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