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Post by pulismaskreplica on Oct 24, 2017 9:12:28 GMT
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Post by liam007 on Oct 24, 2017 9:19:19 GMT
Doing a amazing job at Shrewsbury and certainly one to watch his career develop.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2017 9:22:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 9:28:54 GMT
If The Shrewsbury Manager leaves, and the fans protest and vent their anger , maybe Shrewsbury should appoint Craig Shakespeare to calm things down, and try to appease the fans....A sort of Taming of The Shrews if you like....
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Post by alster on Oct 24, 2017 9:37:28 GMT
Not seen them play but oh for a manager who's not stuck in a time warp. Power in the middle of the park, high tempo aggressive pressing game. Its got to beat Joe Allen haring about like a lunatic whilst everyone else drops off. Incisive passing instead of turning back on yourself because nobody's busting a gut to find space in front of you.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Oct 24, 2017 9:40:43 GMT
If The Shrewsbury Manager leaves, and the fans protest and vent their anger , maybe Shrewsbury should appoint Craig Shakespeare to calm things down, and try to appease the fans....A sort of Taming of The Shrews if you like.... Hopefully could turn it around before a 'winter of discontent' (ahem).
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Post by PB1863 on Oct 24, 2017 9:49:37 GMT
If The Shrewsbury Manager leaves, and the fans protest and vent their anger , maybe Shrewsbury should appoint Craig Shakespeare to calm things down, and try to appease the fans....A sort of Taming of The Shrews if you like.... Hopefully could turn it around before a 'winter of discontent' (ahem). He should take a look at our defence - a comedy of errors
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 24, 2017 10:01:16 GMT
Hopefully could turn it around before a 'winter of discontent' (ahem). He should take a look at our defence - a comedy of errors Yes but by next May we will all be thankful that "All's well that ends well".
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 24, 2017 10:29:47 GMT
If The Shrewsbury Manager leaves, and the fans protest and vent their anger , maybe Shrewsbury should appoint Craig Shakespeare to calm things down, and try to appease the fans....A sort of Taming of The Shrews if you like.... As you like it.
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Oct 24, 2017 10:50:20 GMT
Possibly a case of "much ado about nothing".
Another in a long list of contenders for the managerial "best thing since sliced bread" title, following in the footsteps of Karl Robinson, JF Hasselbank, Gary Rowett, et al.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2017 10:51:54 GMT
Possibly a case of "much ado about nothing". Another in a long list of contenders for the managerial "best thing since sliced bread" title, following in the footsteps of Karl Robinson, JF Hasselbank, Gary Rowett, et al. Rowett's at Derby doing a good job still.
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Post by Godo on Oct 24, 2017 11:03:53 GMT
Sounds like the job Wagner did at Huddersfield. .... someone who we maybe should have considered last season when we had our spell of what is now becoming an annual tradition of 4 goal maulings.
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Post by reddipotter on Oct 24, 2017 11:04:55 GMT
I don't know whether the Shrewsbury manager is the right one, but this is exactly the sort of place we should be looking for our next manager.
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Post by alster on Oct 24, 2017 11:46:03 GMT
I don't know whether the Shrewsbury manager is the right one, but this is exactly the sort of place we should be looking for our next manager. No it isn't dealing with players in the lower leagues bears no resemblance to dealing with top tier players.
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Post by reddipotter on Oct 24, 2017 12:09:27 GMT
I don't know whether the Shrewsbury manager is the right one, but this is exactly the sort of place we should be looking for our next manager. No it isn't dealing with players in the lower leagues bears no resemblance to dealing with top tier players. I agree that it is different, but to say that there is no resemblance can't be true. Many of the same man management skills are used. And I think it is only a major issue with the really 'big names' at the top six clubs. How do explain the number of managers currently in the Premier League who have come from lower leagues either in Britsin or abroad?
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Post by shrewspotter on Oct 24, 2017 12:20:25 GMT
I sometimes go and watch Shrewsbury when Stoke are not playing
This chap, Paul Hurst is a great manager, got Shrews playing really well, bought a solid keeper in from Man Utd on loan in Henderson, got a good centre half, a great midfielder in Ben Godfrey and a decent striker in Stefan Payne.
I do think though that it is too soon for Hurst to jump to somewhere like us just yet, in fairness he is doing great but if he can get Shrewsbury up and keep them there then a better job would soon be his. But just not yet
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 24, 2017 12:32:14 GMT
This statement from the interview ..........."They'd had a lot of changes in the previous 15 games in looking to find something that worked," says Hurst. "I knew from speaking to them that they were not sure what they would be doing from game to game because they were changing for the opposition. I think it was a relief for them to get the message that this is us and this is what we do."
Sound familiar? Just substitute 40 games for 15 and you have it!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 24, 2017 12:37:31 GMT
No it isn't dealing with players in the lower leagues bears no resemblance to dealing with top tier players. I agree that it is different, but to say that there is no resemblance can't be true. Many of the same man management skills are used. And I think it is only a major issue with the really 'big names' at the top six clubs. How do explain the number of managers currently in the Premier League who have come from lower leagues either in Britsin or abroad? There isn't one of them who had at least second-tier experience before coming here though is there? The last ones to go straight from the third to the first were Di Canio and Ince, neither of whom lasted more than six months.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 13:09:00 GMT
Does Liam Lawrence still have anything to do with Shrewsbury?
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Post by reddipotter on Oct 24, 2017 13:18:52 GMT
I agree that it is different, but to say that there is no resemblance can't be true. Many of the same man management skills are used. And I think it is only a major issue with the really 'big names' at the top six clubs. How do explain the number of managers currently in the Premier League who have come from lower leagues either in Britsin or abroad? There isn't one of them who had at least second-tier experience before coming here though is there? The last ones to go straight from the third to the first were Di Canio and Ince, neither of whom lasted more than six months. They were both promoted because they were 'names'. What I'm suggesting is that we look for managers who have done the hard yards and learned their trade, not just the same old names on the Premier League roundabout.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 24, 2017 13:22:17 GMT
There isn't one of them who had at least second-tier experience before coming here though is there? The last ones to go straight from the third to the first were Di Canio and Ince, neither of whom lasted more than six months. They were both promoted because they were 'names'. What I'm suggesting is that we look for managers who have done the hard yards and learned their trade, not just the same old names on the Premier League roundabout. I agree with that, but we need to be looking higher than League 1, as brilliant a job as Hurst is doing.
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Post by stokeyank on Oct 24, 2017 13:51:38 GMT
They were both promoted because they were 'names'. What I'm suggesting is that we look for managers who have done the hard yards and learned their trade, not just the same old names on the Premier League roundabout. I agree with that, but we need to be looking higher than League 1, as brilliant a job as Hurst is doing. Why? If he knows how to coach and manage then who cares what level he is currently at? A fresh influence who has not been influenced by some of the crap of the top tier could be a very good thing. Sure you would need to surround him with some people who do know these things to avoid pitfalls but we could do worse (Alan Pardew, Roy Hodgeson).
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 24, 2017 14:03:15 GMT
Possibly a case of "much ado about nothing". Another in a long list of contenders for the managerial "best thing since sliced bread" title, following in the footsteps of Karl Robinson, JF Hasselbank, Gary Rowett, et al. Rowett's at Derby doing a good job still. What type of manager is he, Bayern, style wise?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 24, 2017 14:11:35 GMT
I agree with that, but we need to be looking higher than League 1, as brilliant a job as Hurst is doing. Why? If he knows how to coach and manage then who cares what level he is currently at? A fresh influence who has not been influenced by some of the crap of the top tier could be a very good thing. Sure you would need to surround him with some people who do know these things to avoid pitfalls but we could do worse (Alan Pardew, Roy Hodgeson). It's a nice idea that doesn't work in practice. Knowing how to manage at League 1 level, where you have to kick bollock and brain to keep yourself running from day to day, isn't the same as managing superstar egos on £100k a week. Expectations are different at almost all levels.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 24, 2017 14:12:35 GMT
Rowett's at Derby doing a good job still. What type of manager is he, Bayern, style wise? Another Tone clone.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 24, 2017 14:14:36 GMT
What type of manager is he, Bayern, style wise? Another Tone clone. Free flowing football at it's finest?
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Post by somersetstokie on Oct 24, 2017 19:54:00 GMT
Surely the last time we went for the lower league route was with Steve Cotterill. You can find that once you give these guys a leg up the ladder they want to keep on climbing.
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Post by redstriper on Oct 24, 2017 20:03:47 GMT
The gap between premier and lower divisions in massive and getting wider by the year. Moving from managing Shrewsbury to managing us would be like moving from managing your local spar to managing BP. Different gravy.
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Post by rawli on Oct 24, 2017 20:08:46 GMT
Does Liam Lawrence still have anything to do with Shrewsbury? Think he was dogged by injury.
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 24, 2017 20:10:20 GMT
The gap between premier and lower divisions in massive and getting wider by the year. Moving from managing Shrewsbury to managing us would be like moving from managing your local spar to managing BP. Different gravy. My local Spar is in BP. I think the same guy manages both. I know this because he gave me a refund for a Gingsters I bought that was out of date.
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