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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 9:10:45 GMT
Who on here would give him more than the next game?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 23, 2017 9:15:28 GMT
I think the earliest anything could happen is after the Leicester game, with an international break giving us time to maybe do something. Unless we win at Watford, a loss against Leicester and things would get pretty nasty in the stadium, and they might have to get the axe out, as much as they don't want to. If we lose against Watford i'm convinced he'll go into the Leicester game needing a result to save his job. I guess a lot of it will come down to what sort of indication Big Sam has given them behind the scenes. Yeah - would imagine Big Sam's definitely the one they'd go for. If they were to get the thumbs-up from him, things could move pretty quickly. But if he says no (and I kind of think he would), I've got no idea where they'd look and things could get messy
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Post by march4 on Oct 23, 2017 9:16:46 GMT
We don't want panic.
We want Hughes sacked in the calm, rational manner required.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 23, 2017 9:17:43 GMT
We don't want panic. We want Hughes sacked in the calm, rational manner required. And after 18 months to even suggest it's panic is ludicrous.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 23, 2017 9:31:17 GMT
I'm still supporting Hughes and think he is the best man to get us into the top half of the table. Then again I'm not always right; silly me, I thought Chelsea would beat Palace last week.
(Sorry, I thought this was the "Last Man Standing" thread.)
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 23, 2017 9:35:45 GMT
What will make them panic? The fucking stadium being on fire?!
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Post by GoBoks on Oct 23, 2017 9:57:45 GMT
Panic involves action ,(and cost which is our overidding principal ) our definition of well run has nothing to do with what goes on , on the pitch , the chief executive is monitoring the situation if after 37 games we are in the bottom three we will make a decisive move for a manager who was highly rated early in his career but lost his way and has something to prove . They may not panic but for the record they are utterly wrong , worst squad in ten years , team that does as it pleases , manager who now can't see wood for trees, but as someone said on here over the weekend , it is no longer A Hughes issue. It's the board that are sending us down now which further adds to the CEO crime sheet , his £12m banked in the summer racking up true cost week after week on the pitch and coming with an interest cost of £100m per annum come May . For his part Hughes we aren't in the bottom three come May we've been here before is as deluded as the CEO , Jesse , Chopper , Ramadan , berahino , haven't Wimmer hasnt ,Zouma hasn't , Tymon hasn't , the players you need in here walters , Bardsley , Whelan all sold as the two of them presided over a summer which I said at the time will be this eras equivalent of the roof blowing off the butler street stand but totally self inflicted . You've predicted our demise almost every season since you've been posting on this board Benji, but it looks like you've finally got it right, and IMO your comments above are spot on regarding our current situation. That old saying really does apply in your case "if at first you don't succeed, then try, try, try again". Oh C’mon! I’m not happy with results, but don’t you think that 1 point away from 12th spot after 9 games, including the first 6 where many predicted 0 points, is a little premature to start confirming BB’s standing prediction of relegation?
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Post by GoBoks on Oct 23, 2017 9:58:11 GMT
Who on here would give him more than the next game? Me.
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Post by GoBoks on Oct 23, 2017 9:59:32 GMT
If we lose against Watford i'm convinced he'll go into the Leicester game needing a result to save his job. I guess a lot of it will come down to what sort of indication Big Sam has given them behind the scenes. Yeah - would imagine Big Sam's definitely the one they'd go for. If they were to get the thumbs-up from him, things could move pretty quickly. But if he says no (and I kind of think he would), I've got no idea where they'd look and things could get messy Motes. I’d rather have Hughes.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 23, 2017 10:06:30 GMT
You've predicted our demise almost every season since you've been posting on this board Benji, but it looks like you've finally got it right, and IMO your comments above are spot on regarding our current situation. That old saying really does apply in your case "if at first you don't succeed, then try, try, try again". Oh C’mon! I’m not happy with results, but don’t you think that 1 point away from 12th spot after 9 games, including the first 6 where many predicted 0 points, is a little premature to start confirming BB’s standing prediction of relegation? I think you'll find we're three points away from 12th spot - a(nd we wouldn't make that because of our shite goals against tally) and only out of the bottom three on goal difference - with both Palace and Bournmouth below us both having won more recently than we have. Lack of awareness of the league table is perhaps what's afflicting the board as well as you.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 23, 2017 10:15:32 GMT
www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/next-manager-to-leave-postThere could be a real charge for new managers coming up. Leicester already looking (Pellegrini is the new favourite), and you'd think Everton and West Ham would be looking within the fortnight. Even Pulis' odds to be sacked are coming in reasonably quickly with their fans very frustrated. Dunno to what extent we'd be fishing in the same pools as any of them, with them probably much more open to a foreign gamble, but there could be a benefit to having the first swing at any target if the field gets crowded?
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Post by PB1863 on Oct 23, 2017 10:23:35 GMT
In this age of act first then think it through we are lucky to have a Chairman and board that don't panic. I hope Hughes turns it round over the next 4 games against Watford, Leicester, Brighton and Palace although I'm sadly expecting the worst
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 10:37:37 GMT
Who on here would give him more than the next game? Lose to Watford is a given. If he can pick up points there then there's a glimmer of light. Lose the next with Leicester where we both are then I don't see any other solutions Poo team selection, poor transfer dealings over last two seasons Only hope that PC is scheming to make things more interesting by introducing a near crowd panic by relegation looming before setting forth a recovery under a new leader! It's about as realistic a conspiracy theory as there being a world war two bomber on the moon! 😕
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 10:41:09 GMT
www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/next-manager-to-leave-postThere could be a real charge for new managers coming up. Leicester already looking (Pellegrini is the new favourite), and you'd think Everton and West Ham would be looking within the fortnight. Even Pulis' odds to be sacked are coming in reasonably quickly with their fans very frustrated. Dunno to what extent we'd be fishing in the same pools as any of them, with them probably much more open to a foreign gamble, but there could be a benefit to having the first swing at any target if the field gets crowded? How Hughes is 20/1 beggars belief! I would've thought 2/1 easily!😬
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Post by NassauDave on Oct 23, 2017 10:45:11 GMT
The board should be frantically seeking this fucking morons replacement.
His back room staff need to go too. They are as stale as a Wright’s Pie just before the shop shuts.
Minibus, not a taxi for Hughes and his cronies. Call Lucky Seven someone.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 23, 2017 10:52:48 GMT
If we lose against Watford i'm convinced he'll go into the Leicester game needing a result to save his job. I guess a lot of it will come down to what sort of indication Big Sam has given them behind the scenes. Yeah - would imagine Big Sam's definitely the one they'd go for. If they were to get the thumbs-up from him, things could move pretty quickly. But if he says no (and I kind of think he would), I've got no idea where they'd look and things could get messy Have I missed something here? Are there (twitter) rumbling we been in contact or something?
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Post by lordb on Oct 23, 2017 11:03:23 GMT
Yeah - would imagine Big Sam's definitely the one they'd go for. If they were to get the thumbs-up from him, things could move pretty quickly. But if he says no (and I kind of think he would), I've got no idea where they'd look and things could get messy Have I missed something here? Are there (twitter) rumbling we been in contact or something? I think it's (perfectly reasonable) supposition. Irrespective of what Hughes says or doesn't say the interesting thing is it seems the club are thinking of possible change. Timescale is an issue. I don't think the club will want to sack him (e.g if we lose the next two games) if none of their preferred alternatives are indicating they want the job. If Allardyce is sounded out and he isn't interested (a scenario which seems highly likely given he has turned Leicester down), the list of realistic candidates is very depressing. Pellegrino really up for the Leicester job? He might tick some boxes for Coates.
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Oct 23, 2017 11:04:08 GMT
As successful business people the know the golden rule is be willing to make a decision, even if it’s the wrong one with hindsight. They missed that opportunity in the summer and the longer they leave it the more likely it us to haunt them in the future.
Anyone heard from Robbie Savage lately?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 23, 2017 11:14:10 GMT
Have I missed something here? Are there (twitter) rumbling we been in contact or something? I think it's (perfectly reasonable) supposition. Irrespective of what Hughes says or doesn't say the interesting thing is it seems the club are thinking of possible change. Timescale is an issue. I don't think the club will want to sack him (e.g if we lose the next two games) if none of their preferred alternatives are indicating they want the job. If Allardyce is sounded out and he isn't interested (a scenario which seems highly likely given he has turned Leicester down), the list of realistic candidates is very depressing. Pellegrino really up for the Leicester job? He might tick some boxes for Coates. Right. I don't do twitter/facebook/herberts etc and wondered if there was some whispering going on about big Sam, or anyone really.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 11:16:17 GMT
Is it interesting that Martin O'Neill hasn't signed a new deal with Ireland yet?
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Post by GoBoks on Oct 23, 2017 11:18:16 GMT
Oh C’mon! I’m not happy with results, but don’t you think that 1 point away from 12th spot after 9 games, including the first 6 where many predicted 0 points, is a little premature to start confirming BB’s standing prediction of relegation? I think you'll find we're three points away from 12th spot - a(nd we wouldn't make that because of our shite goals against tally) and only out of the bottom three on goal difference - with both Palace and Bournmouth below us both having won more recently than we have. Lack of awareness of the league table is perhaps what's afflicting the board as well as you. Point conceded, I have not obsessed over the table this weekend, but my point remains the same - anyone who is certain that we are going down is either foolish or Nostradamus reincarnated.
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Post by Davef on Oct 23, 2017 11:18:47 GMT
Panic involves action ,(and cost which is our overidding principal ) our definition of well run has nothing to do with what goes on , on the pitch , the chief executive is monitoring the situation if after 37 games we are in the bottom three we will make a decisive move for a manager who was highly rated early in his career but lost his way and has something to prove . They may not panic but for the record they are utterly wrong , worst squad in ten years , team that does as it pleases , manager who now can't see wood for trees, but as someone said on here over the weekend , it is no longer A Hughes issue. It's the board that are sending us down now which further adds to the CEO crime sheet , his £12m banked in the summer racking up true cost week after week on the pitch and coming with an interest cost of £100m per annum come May . For his part Hughes we aren't in the bottom three come May we've been here before is as deluded as the CEO , Jesse , Chopper , Ramadan , berahino , haven't Wimmer hasnt ,Zouma hasn't , Tymon hasn't , the players you need in here walters , Bardsley , Whelan all sold as the two of them presided over a summer which I said at the time will be this eras equivalent of the roof blowing off the butler street stand but totally self inflicted . Why do you keep wittering on and on about the "CEO"? Scholes may have his faults and he probably does bear some of the responsibility for a questionable recruitment policy, but he doesn't own the club and ultimately isn't entirely to blame. He certainly isn't going to be the one to make the decision to remove Mark Hughes if and when the time comes. For the likes of you though, he is an easy (and the only) target. You haven't got the courage to point the finger at those ultimately responsible.
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Oct 23, 2017 11:20:34 GMT
Who on here would give him more than the next game? Me.
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Post by Gods on Oct 23, 2017 11:24:12 GMT
How did they get the title 'Stoke’s board are refusing to panic' ?
It may be true but I can't see any quotations or any reference in the article to any board member or source named or unnamed.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Oct 23, 2017 11:25:22 GMT
It was a poor performance (1st half) and a bad result on Saturday, but I think the board is right not to panic.
We're still a bit patched up: Ryan can't be fully fit, Glen Johnson hasn't played at all and we are obviously going to miss Shaqiri.
We could have rescued a point on Saturday which would have completely changed the mood. Let's se how we go on after the next few games.
If we get Ryan and BMI fully fit, get Tom Edwards in at RB, give Mame a run up front, things will look a lot different, and hopefully a bit of confidence and form will come back.
We don't have the problems that West ham and Everton have - both of those are really in a mess.
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Post by alster on Oct 23, 2017 11:30:09 GMT
It was a poor performance (1st half) and a bad result on Saturday, but I think the board is right not to panic. We're still a bit patched up: Ryan can't be fully fit, Glen Johnson hasn't played at all and we are obviously going to miss Shaqiri. We could have rescued a point on Saturday which would have completely changed the mood. Let's se how we go on after the next few games. If we get Ryan and BMI fully fit, get Tom Edwards in at RB, give Mame a run up front, things will look a lot different, and hopefully a bit of confidence and form will come back. We don't have the problems that West ham and Everton have - both of those are really in a mess. Everton and West Ham both have a far greater choice of tools to turn things around than we do, take the blinkers off.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 23, 2017 11:36:10 GMT
Have I missed something here? Are there (twitter) rumbling we been in contact or something? I think it's (perfectly reasonable) supposition. Irrespective of what Hughes says or doesn't say the interesting thing is it seems the club are thinking of possible change. Timescale is an issue. I don't think the club will want to sack him (e.g if we lose the next two games) if none of their preferred alternatives are indicating they want the job. If Allardyce is sounded out and he isn't interested (a scenario which seems highly likely given he has turned Leicester down), the list of realistic candidates is very depressing. Pellegrino really up for the Leicester job? He might tick some boxes for Coates. Are we talking Pelligrini who's about 90 (actually I've just looked and he's only 64. Jeez he must have had a long paper round) who I thought was being linked with Leicester? Or Pelligrino who's boring the pants off Saints supporters at the minute?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 23, 2017 11:36:26 GMT
How did they get the title 'Stoke’s board are refusing to panic' ? It may be true but I can't see any quotations or any reference in the article to any board member or source named or unnamed. Facts are unnecessary luxuries for journalists. The sun rose this morning, fact. North Korea holds off lunching nuclear weapons and destroying the planet, newspaper headlines.
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Post by shrewspotter on Oct 23, 2017 11:38:17 GMT
The next 2 games are huge for Hughes, lose both of them and I think he is gone
I think Coates will give him those 2, but after that I doubt
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 23, 2017 11:42:15 GMT
At the moment I don't know what to think.
I Want Hughes to get us back playing the kind of football when he first came,but he seems unable to motivate the players now.
I don't want the board sacking managers Willy nilly like Crystal Palace,but I don't want the board hanging on to a manager if he has lost the plot.
I suppose the best thing to do is see how we do over these next 4 games,if we pick up less than 4 pts.maybe then consider changing the Manager.
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