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Post by wembley1972 on Oct 22, 2017 12:10:43 GMT
Butland has let more goals in than any other keeper in the league so far this year.
He is recognised as possibly the most likely successor to Hart.
With The WCup in his sights, does he stay here for keeping practice, he is getting plenty. Or if a bigger club comes calling does he jump ship play, behind a better defence, look good and have more chance of being Englands first choice next summer.
Im not scare mongering, I want him to stay but at the moment if I were him I'd be speaking to my England teammates and let them know my thoughts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 12:12:57 GMT
Nothing's changed, he won't be here come the start of next season imo.
Hughes is probably salivating at the thought of having another £40m in his arse pocket, to completely waste.
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Post by Theninjabadger on Oct 22, 2017 12:13:43 GMT
Stay up and out chances a low but at least we will get a decent fee for him
Go down and we have 0% chance and we’ll get next to nothing
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Post by wuzza on Oct 22, 2017 12:15:03 GMT
Our defensive set up is going to make a mug of any keeper (not that I think that Jack has been outstanding this season) so I would imagine his motivation for a move and sooner rather than later is quite high just now.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 22, 2017 12:17:10 GMT
Jack and Shaq will be gone in January.
They are both ambitious players and highly skilful, but we won't hang on to them if we don't try to match that ambition and sadly we are light years away from that.
If we keep them to the end of the season we will have done well.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 22, 2017 12:17:59 GMT
Our defensive set up is going to make a mug of any keeper (not that I think that Jack has been outstanding this season) so I would imagine his motivation for a move and sooner rather than later is quite high just now. I'd be agitating for it in January if something was on if I was him. |
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Post by wuzza on Oct 22, 2017 12:22:48 GMT
Our defensive set up is going to make a mug of any keeper (not that I think that Jack has been outstanding this season) so I would imagine his motivation for a move and sooner rather than later is quite high just now. I'd be agitating for it in January if something was on if I was him. I think any top club wanting to make plans for it’s goal keeping situation might well decide to get in before the summer transfer bun-fight and will have a quiet word with Jack and his representatives in January. Decent money on offer and I think the club will bow to the inevitable and cash in rather than keep an unhappy player. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 12:23:29 GMT
For him to go in January it would mean 1 of the top 6 need him and will make him No1 choice.
Just can't see that.
I think he will stay until the end, and lets hope we stay up, and lets hope it is down largely to JB. If so that will increase his value no end, and realistically 40Mill+ is not out of the question.
If we go down, and he has a few mares it will reduce his value, so lets hope scenario 1 plays out.
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Oct 22, 2017 12:25:52 GMT
Add shaquri to butland leaving. Both are to good for us at the moment. We missed the chance to add quality in the summer to have a chance of keeping them. We are a glorified championship team at the moment.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 22, 2017 12:27:42 GMT
Butland has let more goals in than any other keeper in the league so far this year. He is recognised as possibly the most likely successor to Hart. With The WCup in his sights, does he stay here for keeping practice, he is getting plenty. Or if a bigger club comes calling does he jump ship play, behind a better defence, look good and have more chance of being Englands first choice next summer. Im not scare mongering, I want him to stay but at the moment if I were him I'd be speaking to my England teammates and let them know my thoughts. I've thought for a while he'll go in the summer, but now I'm not so sure. I think the question is where to? Pickford's fee has set the bar high so there aren't many who could actually afford him. It would have to be upwards of £30m. Liverpool at the moment are the only candidate. If the shit lose de Gea, possibly them. But for me the real thing that will deny him a move to a top 6 team is his distribution. It's fucking gash. I don't remember it being that bad before his injury. And that also precludes a move to a top team abroad. What I'm saying therefore is, is his move as nailed on as we might fear? |
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Post by march4 on Oct 22, 2017 12:35:26 GMT
The prospect of Jack leaving this shambles on 1st Jan is another reason to get rid of Hughes today, so the new manager can grow some green shoots of recovery and convince him to stay until the summer.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Oct 22, 2017 12:37:58 GMT
I'm sure he's having regular conversations with his agent a long the line of, I want to go to the world cup as no1 you need to get me out of here in January.
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Post by felonious on Oct 22, 2017 12:42:46 GMT
Butland has let more goals in than any other keeper in the league so far this year. He is recognised as possibly the most likely successor to Hart. With The WCup in his sights, does he stay here for keeping practice, he is getting plenty. Or if a bigger club comes calling does he jump ship play, behind a better defence, look good and have more chance of being Englands first choice next summer. Im not scare mongering, I want him to stay but at the moment if I were him I'd be speaking to my England teammates and let them know my thoughts. I've thought for a while he'll go in the summer, but now I'm not so sure. I think the question is where to? Pickford's fee has set the bar high so there aren't many who could actually afford him. It would have to be upwards of £30m. Liverpool at the moment are the only candidate. If the shit lose de Gea, possibly them. But for me the real thing that will deny him a move to a top 6 team is his distribution. It's fucking gash. I don't remember it being that bad before his injury. And that also precludes a move to a top team abroad. What I'm saying therefore is, is his move as nailed on as we might fear? I think at one point everyone expected Shawcross to leave but that never happened either. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 22, 2017 12:45:48 GMT
I've thought for a while he'll go in the summer, but now I'm not so sure. I think the question is where to? Pickford's fee has set the bar high so there aren't many who could actually afford him. It would have to be upwards of £30m. Liverpool at the moment are the only candidate. If the shit lose de Gea, possibly them. But for me the real thing that will deny him a move to a top 6 team is his distribution. It's fucking gash. I don't remember it being that bad before his injury. And that also precludes a move to a top team abroad. What I'm saying therefore is, is his move as nailed on as we might fear? I think at one point everyone expected Shawcross to leave but that never happened either. Mind you having just watched Cech for 15 minutes the Arse might be in for him as well. And Whinger isn't one of those Johnny Foreigners who demands a ball playing keeper. |
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Post by chayzenbacon on Oct 22, 2017 13:13:54 GMT
His record on paper this season is not great but Jack is not to blame for any of our poor results. I never expected him to stay beyond next May but our current wankness is such that the chances of him leaving in January incease week by week.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 22, 2017 13:17:04 GMT
How much would we get for him and Shaqiri?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 22, 2017 13:21:27 GMT
How much would we get for him and Shaqiri? £50m? £30m for Jack and £20m for Shaq. |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Oct 22, 2017 13:40:15 GMT
Jack and Shaq will be gone in January. They are both ambitious players and highly skilful, but we won't hang on to them if we don't try to match that ambition and sadly we are light years away from that. If we keep them to the end of the season we will have done well. My thoughts exactly they not going to stick around a club thats going to be playing championship football next season. They are both internationals & will need to be playing at the top level. |
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Post by alster on Oct 22, 2017 14:40:23 GMT
How much would we get for him and Shaqiri? £50m? £30m for Jack and £20m for Shaq. Wow less than 3 Wimmers for two top players. |
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Post by stokie1954 on Oct 22, 2017 14:59:58 GMT
De Gea to Real in swap for Bale and Butland to the shit.
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Post by theteacher on Oct 22, 2017 15:04:49 GMT
With how things are progressing Butland needs to get away from Stoke ASAP for the benefit of his career.
We want him to stay. He comes across as an intelligent person so will understand what he needs to do for his future.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 15:22:02 GMT
I'd be gone asap.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 22, 2017 15:30:42 GMT
He has no allegiance whatsover to Stoke City so he will do exactly what he needs to do for the sake of Jack Butland. How his future pans out remains to be seen but at the moment it's unlikely to be with us. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 15:32:03 GMT
He has no allegiance whatsover to Stoke City so he will do exactly what he needs to do for the sake of Jack Butland. How his future pans out remains to be seen but at the moment it's unlikely to be with us. He deserves better to be honest. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 22, 2017 15:37:40 GMT
I would drop Butland. Grant in. Butland good, makes mistakes. Eh? What mistakes did he make yesterday? |
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Post by Dancingtesttube on Oct 22, 2017 15:38:50 GMT
I would drop Butland. Grant in. Butland good, makes mistakes. Wow!! |
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 22, 2017 16:02:09 GMT
Only top club which might be interested is Liverpool
His weakness with his feet is a great handicap in modern football
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Post by nott1 on Oct 22, 2017 16:05:33 GMT
Useless at saving penalties!
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Oct 22, 2017 16:07:42 GMT
I would drop Butland. Grant in. Butland good, makes mistakes. I think you'll catch a few with that one, but I won't be one of them  |
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Post by Fred Merger on Oct 22, 2017 17:01:05 GMT
I would drop Butland. Grant in. Butland good, makes mistakes. He doesn't make as many as Ryan Shawcross and he's supposed to be our captain,absolutely chronic tackle a minute after conceding their first. |
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