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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Oct 21, 2017 17:16:13 GMT
That was the worst half I've ever seen from a Stoke team. Granted I've not seen some things other have, but I've never seen so awful and devoid of ideas against what is one of the league's poorest sides
Better 2nd half, but again we were poor
He needs to go
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Post by stokiesteve on Oct 21, 2017 17:17:20 GMT
Yes mate you haven't seen things others have. Without bringing out the war stories.
And yes, you're right, it was pretty shocking.
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Post by lancashirelad on Oct 21, 2017 18:37:48 GMT
I cannot remember a worse first 30 mins at home in the Prem.
We then missed too many half chances.
A long season ahead which on the games this season we will be a relegation candidate.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Oct 21, 2017 18:44:52 GMT
That first 45 was a bad as anything served up in the last 6 months of pulis' reign. We are in a bad place, i don't think the board see it though.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 21, 2017 18:45:26 GMT
It was appalling.
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Post by rawli on Oct 21, 2017 18:46:55 GMT
We still could easily come off drawing at half time despite being that shit.
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Post by mrred on Oct 21, 2017 18:56:22 GMT
Given all the empty platitudes of we'll come out fighting next week- that's the best they could come up with? I've been banging on about Hughes being wank but they should hang their heads in shame. I don't know if it's the case but I don't ever want to see my team down tools to sack the manager like Chelsea did. There's ways to do things, just don't resort to that.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 21, 2017 18:58:11 GMT
Yet choupo, diouf and shawcross all should have scored in that very same first half.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 21, 2017 18:58:48 GMT
Given all the empty platitudes of we'll come out fighting next week- that's the best they could come up with? I've been banging on about Hughes being wank but they should hang their heads in shame. I don't know if it's the case but I don't ever want to see my team down tools to sack the manager like Chelsea did. There's ways to do things, just don't resort to that. There wasn't a lack of effort today. |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Oct 21, 2017 18:58:55 GMT
Yet choupo, diouf and shawcross all should have scored in that very same first half. and didn't. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 21, 2017 18:59:07 GMT
It was 48 minutes of cowardice and dereliction of duty in every area.
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Post by mrred on Oct 21, 2017 19:03:53 GMT
Given all the empty platitudes of we'll come out fighting next week- that's the best they could come up with? I've been banging on about Hughes being wank but they should hang their heads in shame. I don't know if it's the case but I don't ever want to see my team down tools to sack the manager like Chelsea did. There's ways to do things, just don't resort to that. There wasn't a lack of effort today. Could have fooled me What was the stat earlier? We've won once in 40 when we've trailed in games? The game was over when we went 2 down. Too little too late in the second half. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 21, 2017 19:10:28 GMT
There wasn't a lack of effort today. Could have fooled me What was the stat earlier? We've won once in 40 when we've trailed in games? The game was over when we went 2 down. Too little too late in the second half. The game was over when we started whacking it long. Up to that point, going forward at least, we always looked like causing them problems. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 21, 2017 19:12:00 GMT
Given all the empty platitudes of we'll come out fighting next week- that's the best they could come up with? I've been banging on about Hughes being wank but they should hang their heads in shame. I don't know if it's the case but I don't ever want to see my team down tools to sack the manager like Chelsea did. There's ways to do things, just don't resort to that. There wasn't a lack of effort today. I wouldn’t like to see it then if they don’t put any effort in. Personally that’s one of the most woeful games I’ve watched my team deliver |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 21, 2017 19:17:04 GMT
There wasn't a lack of effort today. I wouldn’t like to see it then if they don’t put any effort in. Personally that’s one of the most woeful games I’ve watched my team deliver Last week was far worse. At least we ran, tackled and created chances today |
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 21, 2017 19:27:48 GMT
I wouldn’t like to see it then if they don’t put any effort in. Personally that’s one of the most woeful games I’ve watched my team deliver Last week was far worse. At least we ran, tackled and created chances today Last week we had a 5 minute spell either side of half time where we decided to play. Today I saw perhaps 15 minutes of giving a toss..... If we want to get back on track, for me at least, the players have to role their sleeves up and show us a bit of pride |
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Post by Northy on Oct 21, 2017 19:49:02 GMT
Yet choupo, diouf and shawcross all should have scored in that very same first half. should have, could have, but didnt |
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Post by Northy on Oct 21, 2017 19:51:14 GMT
Given all the empty platitudes of we'll come out fighting next week- that's the best they could come up with? I've been banging on about Hughes being wank but they should hang their heads in shame. I don't know if it's the case but I don't ever want to see my team down tools to sack the manager like Chelsea did. There's ways to do things, just don't resort to that. There wasn't a lack of effort today. what was the first 30 mins, no effort or desire to close down, get in their faces, we just sat back and let them play |
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Post by march4 on Oct 21, 2017 20:03:25 GMT
Villa at home under TP was as bad.
That cost TP his job.
I can think of a worse performance though - Wolves in the Cup. Hughes should have been sacked after that. We have been woeful ever since.
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Post by Uncle cheese on Oct 21, 2017 20:05:36 GMT
I cannot remember a worse first 30 mins at home in the Prem. We then missed too many half chances. A long season ahead which on the games this season we will be a relegation candidate. I can. We were 2-0 at home to Fulham after about 29 mins. Ironically against a Fulham team managed by Mark Hughes |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 21, 2017 20:19:57 GMT
There wasn't a lack of effort today. what was the first 30 mins, no effort or desire to close down, get in their faces, we just sat back and let them play So you are saying Darren Fletcher made no effort? A player whose built a career on effort had none today? I pick Fletcher deliberately because he was toss. Absolutely toss and he barely got close to anyone all day long. That wasn't a lack of effort though and more a lack of ability. Even Jese worked hard today. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 21, 2017 20:26:00 GMT
what was the first 30 mins, no effort or desire to close down, get in their faces, we just sat back and let them play So you are saying Darren Fletcher made no effort? A player whose built a career on effort had none today? I pick Fletcher deliberately because he was toss. Absolutely toss and he barely got close to anyone all day long. That wasn't a lack of effort though and more a lack of ability. Even Jese worked hard today. We were a shambles 1-11 today. Allen and Diouf second half were the only ones to come out with any credibility. |
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Post by mattface on Oct 21, 2017 20:26:15 GMT
Was as bad as Palace away last season - maybe worse. Thought then he'd lost the dressing room, but managed to go on a mini run that supported our season - just. We have a run of games we should look to do the same, but something has to change and the players need to cut out the basic errors. Onwards to Watford - he is running out of games though
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Post by cerebralstokie on Oct 21, 2017 20:37:39 GMT
I spent 4 hrs 10 minutes on a dialysis machine in Stockport this morning. It was better than watching Stoke for the first 30 minutes of the game. When the players came out, Bournemouth looked up for it. The Stoke players strolled out looking as though it was going to be a walkover. They were sharper, their passing was better and after they were awarded the penalty I thought we were going to be on the end of a hiding. We were better in the second half but there are serious issues to address. The mentality of the players seems at fault. I thought Zouma was our best player from what I saw. Where we would have ended up without him I shudder to think.
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 21, 2017 20:39:51 GMT
It's getting boring to keep repeating it but we are nowhere near fit enough.
After 20 minutes we are 2 down and we are letting Bournemouth keep possession in their back four.
We don't press anywhere on the pitch and simple balls behind our defence cause panic as we make desperate challenges because we're not quick enough.
Against Man City last week the problem was diluted because they were so good but in truth they were so far ahead of us fitness wise we looked like a Sunday side straight from the pub.
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Post by Veritas on Oct 21, 2017 20:47:39 GMT
It may or may not have been the worst first half in the premier league but the first half of the 0-7 Birmingham defeat was far far worse, I do think we are in a bit of a crisis but we have been in a worse hole so keep calm, at least for now!!
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Post by duckling on Oct 22, 2017 0:58:25 GMT
Judging by old threads, the first half ever in the Premier League (against Bolton) was pretty bad.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 22, 2017 1:22:47 GMT
what was the first 30 mins, no effort or desire to close down, get in their faces, we just sat back and let them play So you are saying Darren Fletcher made no effort? A player whose built a career on effort had none today? I pick Fletcher deliberately because he was toss. Absolutely toss and he barely got close to anyone all day long. That wasn't a lack of effort though and more a lack of ability. Even Jese worked hard today. If you're right Dave, then that's really alarming. What your suggesting is that the desire and application WAS there individually but at the end of the day we're just basically shit no matter how hard we try. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 22, 2017 1:25:16 GMT
So you are saying Darren Fletcher made no effort? A player whose built a career on effort had none today? I pick Fletcher deliberately because he was toss. Absolutely toss and he barely got close to anyone all day long. That wasn't a lack of effort though and more a lack of ability. Even Jese worked hard today. If you're right Dave, then that's really alarming. What your suggesting is that the desire and application WAS there individually but at the end of the day we're just basically shit no matter how hard we try. Thankfully (I think) I saw zero effort in that first half from any of them. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 22, 2017 3:02:10 GMT
Given all the empty platitudes of we'll come out fighting next week- that's the best they could come up with? I've been banging on about Hughes being wank but they should hang their heads in shame. I don't know if it's the case but I don't ever want to see my team down tools to sack the manager like Chelsea did. There's ways to do things, just don't resort to that. There wasn't a lack of effort today. Whether there was or wasn't a lack of effort is moot - there is however a clear a lack of application, confidence on the ball, execution or understanding of tactics and taking of chances. The manager is accountable for most of this. |
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