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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 22, 2017 4:08:38 GMT
I fear it would be Pardew - he is touting himself around on Sky like crazy and wants back in. We’d get the usual bizarre runs of greatness and then utter rubbish just like when he was at Newcastle and Palace - streakiest manager going. Not for me but would be a Coates choice. Or Coleman - who really doesn’t have the record in club football to justify the attention. You could argue he should achieve what he did with Wales given he had Bale, Ramsey and Allen. Coates is a huge admirer of Moyes - always expressed it when we were first promoted. Surely he is finished at top level in the UK for now. Rodgers wouldn’t leave Celtic for us - he thinks (wrongly) he’s top 6 material. Allardyce has said he is enjoying his break so I think he’s out. Dyche might be gettable but may want his next move to be higher than us and not sure how Shaqiri and Jesé would react to his style. Whoever it is has got to get a tune out of our better players if we are to survive. Michael O’Neill - can certainly motivate but a huge gamble with little club success on his CV. Rafa won’t leave Newcastle with new investment on the way there. Graham Potter is intriguing but again a huge jump to go to the Premier League from where he is. He’d be a figure of fun for some here based on them thinking he was unknown as a manager and given his sketchy club career for us - would start on the back foot. Can’t see Gary Neville jumping in - still too soon after Valencia and not sure he really wants to be a manager at all. Anyone mentioning Tuchel or Ancelotti is dreaming - would never be seen at Stoke. Of course, if John has more sway and invites Cartwright to dust off Football Manager for a replacement then all bets are off, but not sure Peter would countenance that. If we did, someone like Lucien Favre? Could we tempt him? It’s a really poor list. Allardyce has daid that he is ready to come back for the right job
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Post by chinesedave on Oct 22, 2017 4:28:03 GMT
I'd go for Chic Bates, he's been a #2 for too long.
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Post by DodgyDino on Oct 22, 2017 5:22:02 GMT
The annoying thing is a lot of people on this board have seen this coming for 2 seasons and got shouted down... 2 seasons of wasted time and money. I'll be perfectly honest I don't know who the right man is to come in but one thing I'm certain of is I'm as bored of watching Hughes football as I was watching Pulis in his last year.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Oct 22, 2017 5:57:38 GMT
I fear it would be Pardew - he is touting himself around on Sky like crazy and wants back in. We’d get the usual bizarre runs of greatness and then utter rubbish just like when he was at Newcastle and Palace - streakiest manager going. Not for me but would be a Coates choice. Or Coleman - who really doesn’t have the record in club football to justify the attention. You could argue he should achieve what he did with Wales given he had Bale, Ramsey and Allen. Coates is a huge admirer of Moyes - always expressed it when we were first promoted. Surely he is finished at top level in the UK for now. Rodgers wouldn’t leave Celtic for us - he thinks (wrongly) he’s top 6 material. Allardyce has said he is enjoying his break so I think he’s out. Dyche might be gettable but may want his next move to be higher than us and not sure how Shaqiri and Jesé would react to his style. Whoever it is has got to get a tune out of our better players if we are to survive. Michael O’Neill - can certainly motivate but a huge gamble with little club success on his CV. Rafa won’t leave Newcastle with new investment on the way there. Graham Potter is intriguing but again a huge jump to go to the Premier League from where he is. He’d be a figure of fun for some here based on them thinking he was unknown as a manager and given his sketchy club career for us - would start on the back foot. Can’t see Gary Neville jumping in - still too soon after Valencia and not sure he really wants to be a manager at all. Anyone mentioning Tuchel or Ancelotti is dreaming - would never be seen at Stoke. Of course, if John has more sway and invites Cartwright to dust off Football Manager for a replacement then all bets are off, but not sure Peter would countenance that. If we did, someone like Lucien Favre? Could we tempt him? It’s a really poor list.And there is the crux of the problem................
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Post by Boothen on Oct 22, 2017 6:00:11 GMT
Glen Hoddle? See if he can be lured back into management. It's worth a try, we could do far, far worse.
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Post by s7oke on Oct 22, 2017 6:10:52 GMT
How about Ancelotti till the end of the season only with someone like Giggs alongside to bed him into the club and get to know the players for him to take over next season.
I would imagine that their styles of play would be similar.
Just a thought like.
Dyche. Stability but is it a move forward I don’t think so.
Allardyce. As above
Pardew. Too unstable
Coleman. Unknown quantity in club management for too long.
TP. Stability but again is it a step up.
Brendan Rogers. Not sure think he thinks he’s better.
Glen Hoddle. Really don’t know could implode at any time.
David moyes. I really don’t know is he a step up.
Gary Neville may be a step up but is he ready for it ?
Any more British managers anyone can think of who may do a job and move us on ?
Foreign Bilic he may be available is he a bad manager or is it the porn brothers ?
Rafa yes please but don’t think there is a chance.
Ancelotti as the top of the thread short term appointment
Diego simeone yes please but not a chance.
Ronald koeman may be available soon who knows what he’s capable of personally think he’s better with a small budget.
Anymore ???
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Post by longthrowstokie on Oct 22, 2017 6:15:24 GMT
I'd love us to take a punt on Gary Rowett as manager. Done cracking things with Burton and then Birmingham. Currently at derby who will be pushing for playoffs.
Obviously based in the Midlands already. I personally think he'll be a class manager in years to come.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 6:20:15 GMT
I wonder if Coates and the rest of the Board are even thinking of getting rid of Hughes knowing they'd have to pay up his remaining contract (how long has he got left on his contract), and then negotiate possibly more expensive contract for the new manager. I hope that we don't get yet another statement from Sir Peter this week about fans being patient even longer, or what would be an effective vote of confidence in Hughes. I am worried that there will just be silence this week coming from the club.
I was so pleased when we got rid of Toxic and appointed Hughes, and the improvement in our football was so exciting, but it's all just fallen apart and we are only heading (rapidly) in one direction this season.
It seems clear that the fans have turned against the current manager. The time is right, the Board must act and replace Hughes.
The generally accepted "British list" of managers isn't inspiring so it will be tough but the club can do better, and urgently needs better, than to keep Hughes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 6:27:29 GMT
How about Ancelotti till the end of the season only with someone like Giggs alongside to bed him into the club and get to know the players for him to take over next season. I would imagine that their styles of play would be similar. Just a thought like. Dyche. Stability but is it a move forward I don’t think so. Allardyce. As above Pardew. Too unstable Coleman. Unknown quantity in club management for too long. TP. Stability but again is it a step up. Brendan Rogers. Not sure think he thinks he’s better. Glen Hoddle. Really don’t know could implode at any time. David moyes. I really don’t know is he a step up. Gary Neville may be a step up but is he ready for it ? Any more British managers anyone can think of who may do a job and move us on ? Foreign Bilic he may be available is he a bad manager or is it the porn brothers ? Rafa yes please but don’t think there is a chance. Ancelotti as the top of the thread short term appointment Diego simeone yes please but not a chance. Ronald koeman may be available soon who knows what he’s capable of personally think he’s better with a small budget. Anymore ??? I don't think there's a cat in hell's chance of getting Ancelotti or similar. If it's left to Scholes and Carto to find a new manager it'll be Pardew, Coleman or Moyes. Out of your list I think it would be Allardyce short term and then look for next season. I'd be amazed if we sacked Hughes mid season though, but I really, really hope I'm wrong. He has to go NOW !!!!!
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Post by longthrowstokie on Oct 22, 2017 6:30:37 GMT
Will Coates pull the trigger mid season though? Or wait until the end
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Post by jeycov on Oct 22, 2017 6:40:25 GMT
How about Ancelotti till the end of the season only with someone like Giggs alongside to bed him into the club and get to know the players for him to take over next season. I would imagine that their styles of play would be similar. Just a thought like. Dyche. Stability but is it a move forward I don’t think so. Allardyce. As above Pardew. Too unstable Coleman. Unknown quantity in club management for too long. TP. Stability but again is it a step up. Brendan Rogers. Not sure think he thinks he’s better. Glen Hoddle. Really don’t know could implode at any time. David moyes. I really don’t know is he a step up. Gary Neville may be a step up but is he ready for it ? Any more British managers anyone can think of who may do a job and move us on ? Foreign Bilic he may be available is he a bad manager or is it the porn brothers ? Rafa yes please but don’t think there is a chance. Ancelotti as the top of the thread short term appointment Diego simeone yes please but not a chance. Ronald koeman may be available soon who knows what he’s capable of personally think he’s better with a small budget. Anymore ??? Well Leicester may appoint one of that list very soon
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Post by thevoid on Oct 22, 2017 6:46:34 GMT
I wonder if Coates and the rest of the Board are even thinking of getting rid of Hughes knowing they'd have to pay up his remaining contract (how long has he got left on his contract), and then negotiate possibly more expensive contract for the new manager. I hope that we don't get yet another statement from Sir Peter this week about fans being patient even longer, or what would be an effective vote of confidence in Hughes. I am worried that there will just be silence this week coming from the club. I was so pleased when we got rid of Toxic and appointed Hughes, and the improvement in our football was so exciting, but it's all just fallen apart and we are only heading (rapidly) in one direction this season. It seems clear that the fans have turned against the current manager. The time is right, the Board must act and replace Hughes. The generally accepted "British list" of managers isn't inspiring so it will be tough but the club can do better, and urgently needs better, than to keep Hughes. Relegation would cost the club more than paying off Hughes' contract.
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Post by kurt on Oct 22, 2017 6:52:50 GMT
He sould have been sacked in Summer 2016
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 22, 2017 6:58:17 GMT
No more Mike Bassett domestic journeymen - they're out of work for a reason..
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Post by StoneSCFC on Oct 22, 2017 7:24:36 GMT
I have a worrying feeling that there’s a whole lot more shit like today that we’ve got to sit through before there’s a managerial change. My fear is the atmosphere in the ground gets proper toxic.
We’ve seen the fans cheer GJ being substituted which I saw as a bit of ‘gallows humour’ as he shouldn’t be anywhere near the pitch but keeps getting in and there’s nothing us fans can do about it but laugh and cheer when MH sees the light and brings him off.
For me MH is floundering around playing people out of position and trying to crowbar his shit sighnings into a team that looks weaker than last season despite £50m being spent! What I’d have given for a Walters and Whelan (in their prime) on that pitch yesterday.
The writings on the bloody wall (and has been for the last 12 months) the sooner the club realise this and act the better our chances for this season, giving MH until after the Jan transfer window would be unforgivable and would probably finish us in the Prem.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 22, 2017 7:29:02 GMT
Glen Hoddle? See if he can be lured back into management. It's worth a try, we could do far, far worse. My first question to him in the press conference would be "Glenn, years out of the game and you're back at Stoke City and I'm sure you're over the moon, but... what do you think of disabled people?!".. The blokes a twat, his punditry is mind numbing also.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Oct 22, 2017 7:43:03 GMT
I'd love us to take a punt on Gary Rowett as manager. Done cracking things with Burton and then Birmingham. Currently at derby who will be pushing for playoffs. Obviously based in the Midlands already. I personally think he'll be a class manager in years to come. Good shout. I know folk won't like it but I can see Gary Monk bring in the frame as well.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 22, 2017 8:08:02 GMT
I'd love us to take a punt on Gary Rowett as manager. Done cracking things with Burton and then Birmingham. Currently at derby who will be pushing for playoffs. Obviously based in the Midlands already. I personally think he'll be a class manager in years to come. Good shout. I know folk won't like it but I can see Gary Monk bring in the frame as well. God, the more names I hear the more I say fingers crossed Hughes can turn it around. The current list of managers out there is the worst it's ever been. It's why Leicester are still without a manager, bilic still hanging on, and why Hughes will be given more time. Genuinely a scary list of possible managers.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 22, 2017 8:15:54 GMT
Glen Hoddle? See if he can be lured back into management. It's worth a try, we could do far, far worse. Why is it worth a try? His last job in management, over a decade ago, was guiding an expensively assembled Wolves side to missing out on the play offs having drawn 45% of their games.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 22, 2017 8:24:16 GMT
Bilic will be available soon and would suit us.
Benitez would come here I think
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 22, 2017 8:25:41 GMT
9th, 9th, 9th, 13th.
With a record like that it's those supporters calling for Hughes to be sacked who have lost the plot, at least in my opinion.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 22, 2017 8:26:21 GMT
Bilic will be available soon and would suit us. Benitez would come here I think Why would he? He's doing a shit job at WHU and he's spent a shed load. Benitez won't leave Newcastle now new owners and inevitable new investment are on the horizon. We missed that boat last year.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 22, 2017 8:27:46 GMT
9th, 9th, 9th, 13th. With a record like that it's those supporters calling for Hughes to be sacked who have lost the plot, at least in my opinion. I’m not 100% sold on a change Geoff, but you can’t just airily dismiss the longstanding problems by writing a list of numbers.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 22, 2017 8:28:01 GMT
I think we have to accept that we will just have to get relegated with Hughes. There are no other Marco Silva's about. There is no one doing a decent job elsewhere who is worth a risk and we are such a deeply unattractive proposition that anyone with a decent reputation wouldn't touch us with a bargepole. Badly prepared and poorly conditioned teams culminating in a bunglefucked relegation under Hughes is literally the only option on the table....so I'm told
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 22, 2017 8:28:33 GMT
9th, 9th, 9th, 13th. With a record like that it's those supporters calling for Hughes to be sacked who have lost the plot, at least in my opinion. I've thought the same but yesterday reflected very badly on the manager and the team he has put together. To react like that to a 7 goal pasting isn't acceptable. He has to go I'm afraid, sad but true.
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Post by This is the year on Oct 22, 2017 8:32:05 GMT
9th, 9th, 9th, 13th. With a record like that it's those supporters calling for Hughes to be sacked who have lost the plot, at least in my opinion. Stoke in 2017 Played 30 Won 8 Goals for 28 Goals against 48 But you keep holding on to them 9th place finishes and keep your head in the sand 👍
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 22, 2017 8:36:50 GMT
The club has had a clear out of the old guard and Hughes is trying to assemble a new squad, that is what supporters wanted, now it's time to give the new players time and I think Peter Coates will do that.
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Post by ed5993 on Oct 22, 2017 8:37:56 GMT
We’ve seen the fans cheer GJ being substituted which I saw as a bit of ‘gallows humour’ as he shouldn’t be anywhere near the pitch but keeps getting in and there’s nothing us fans can do about it but laugh and cheer when MH sees the light and brings him off. For me MH is floundering around playing people out of position and trying to crowbar his shit sighnings into a team that looks weaker than last season despite £50m being spent! What I’d have given for a Walters and Whelan (in their prime) on that pitch yesterday. Think about it from a players perspective too... Hughes antics yesterday must leave a lot to be desired... Everybody could see Johnson was having a absolute torid time - he's nowhere near in shape to play top flight football as a wing back and shouldn't even be anywhere near the squad. Regardless of that, he was very very poor first half and you could see it had got to his head. Sensible manager could have seen a crowd reaction like that coming and the sensible thing would have been to take him off at HT saving the embarasment and protecting the player. Instead he leaves it to 10 mins in, Johnson gets the treatment - if I were a player then I would think Christ I dont trust this guy and he isn't looking out for us as players at all. Imagine if a colleague totally fucked up at your place of work and your boss went out of his way to publicly highlight it opposed to trying to play it down as best they could. How would you react to that? I would think the guys a total arse.
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Post by hchpotter on Oct 22, 2017 8:39:06 GMT
Why would Dyche leave Burnley for a club that won't spend the money required? He might as well stay where he is. The squad needs at leat £100million spending on it. This is the greatest indictment of Hughes’ time at the club. He’s been given a stable platform and has spent big money on Imbula, Berahino and Wimmer. We’ve also spent big money on wages for players like Bony, Bojan, Shaqiri and yet you’re probably quite right when you say we need to spend £100 million. He helped to ruin QPR and he’s ruining Stoke City in exactly the same way. His transfer dealings have been horrendous (Arnie excepted) and his contract extensions for Bojan, Ireland and Johnson were stupid and unnecessary. The club is pissing money up the wall and cannot afford to do so. Lovely gesture from the club to look after Ireland but he should be a very wealthy and well insured individual and our money could be so much better spent in other areas. On and off the pitch Lesley consistently fails to get his priorities right. Time to get rid now so that his successor can review the squad between now and January and bring in what he needs in the next window.
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Oct 22, 2017 8:39:21 GMT
Mr hughes has run his course. Imbula, berahino and wimmer have killed him off. The actual management above should be looked at as well. Even when youngsters are bought, they are not allowed to play. Midfield is a problem. Shawcross is a liability and should have been told to prove his back was OK until the end of the season before being offered a contract. Take shaquri out of the team, we are really struggling. Bottom 3 at Christmas and nobody but cast offs will want to join us, or massive contracts and stupid wages to entice them to sign. Everyone is depressed and a totally new manager and direction is needed.. Or very large amounts of empty seats will appear.
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