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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 30, 2017 22:35:32 GMT
I believe that LMH took the only sensible course of action - with our defence shot through injury and Zouma ineligible, and a winnable game two days later. Hopefully we will see more spirit in the Newcastle game. Yes I think he had no choice but to field a hotch potch team today. Nevertheless, with experienced highly paid players taking the field one is entitled to expect more professionalism than to surrender the game within minutes of the start. Worryingly we have been beaten by three goals or more once in every 4.5 games I think it is in the last year. For this season we are on track to almost reach the Derby County premier league record for conceding the most goals. You must at least be very concerned with the way things are going? Or, as you have stated before, maybe the premier league isn't everything its made out to be? Perhaps the championship wouldn't be so bad?
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Post by senojbor on Dec 30, 2017 22:38:05 GMT
I've been a supporter longer than most people on this board have been alive and I can see what's around the corner. If we go down with these dreadful expensive players tied up on long term contracts we are truly fucked. Mind boggling amounts of money will be lost. Hughes has to go.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 30, 2017 22:41:14 GMT
I've been a supporter longer than most people on this board have been alive and I can see what's around the corner. If we go down with these dreadful expensive players tied up on long term contracts we are truly fucked. Mind boggling amounts of money will be lost. Hughes has to go. They’ll be fine (the players that is) because they will have relegation get-out clauses in their contracts and we will be stuck with the dregs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 22:48:31 GMT
If the budget set by the owners is not enough to achieve that then we would be better off going to a level where we can compete as countless thrashings are soul destroying for the fans and the players. I have lost all hope of Coates making the changes needed or funding them. That in itself is fine by me .but for Gods sake Coates stop spouting the bullshit and just tell it like it is. If you don't want to spend any more money just bloody say so. He has clearly stated money will be available in the January window, what more do you want him to say?
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 30, 2017 22:57:25 GMT
I've been a supporter longer than most people on this board have been alive and I can see what's around the corner. If we go down with these dreadful expensive players tied up on long term contracts we are truly fucked. Mind boggling amounts of money will be lost. Hughes has to go. So he goes, will all the contracts be null and void? He's staying. Like it it or lump it.
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 30, 2017 23:28:28 GMT
Who mentioned playing careers? Fair enough, we won't be able to attract a manager that has been successful on a regular basis, thats why we need to go for someone on the up. Laudrup is not on the up
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:39:59 GMT
If the budget set by the owners is not enough to achieve that then we would be better off going to a level where we can compete as countless thrashings are soul destroying for the fans and the players. I have lost all hope of Coates making the changes needed or funding them. That in itself is fine by me .but for Gods sake Coates stop spouting the bullshit and just tell it like it is. If you don't want to spend any more money just bloody say so. He has clearly stated money will be available in the January window, what more do you want him to say? Action speak louder than words
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 31, 2017 0:41:41 GMT
I've been a supporter longer than most people on this board have been alive and I can see what's around the corner. If we go down with these dreadful expensive players tied up on long term contracts we are truly fucked. Mind boggling amounts of money will be lost. Hughes has to go. They’ll be fine (the players that is) because they will have relegation get-out clauses in their contracts and we will be stuck with the dregs. I’m beginning to think we already ARE stuck with the dregs.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 31, 2017 0:43:22 GMT
Fair enough, we won't be able to attract a manager that has been successful on a regular basis, thats why we need to go for someone on the up. Laudrup is not on the uo I was more questioning your comment about what he's achieved.
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 31, 2017 0:59:00 GMT
I was more questioning your comment about what he's achieved. You suggested Laudrup and then questioned Hughes record compared to Laudrup. Clearly Laudrup is not any better than Hughes. I believe Rowlett would be a good alternate to Hughes' but he's not available. Villas Boas is available in May but I doubt he'd want to come to us. There are very few decent managers available so I don't know where we go with this. I don't want the Pearsons and others that are on the merry go round. The fact I can't think of somebody is why I'm reluctant to join the Hughes out brigade.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 31, 2017 1:01:11 GMT
I was more questioning your comment about what he's achieved. You suggested Laudrup and then questioned Hughes record compared to Laudrup. Clearly Laudrup is not any better than Hughes. I believe Rowlett would be a good alternate to Hughes' but he's not available. Villas Boas is available in May but I doubt he'd want to come to us. There are very few decent managers available so I don't know where we go with this. I don't want the Pearsons and others that are on the merry go round. The fact I can't think of somebody is why I'm reluctant to join the Hughes out brigade. It wasn't me that suggested him, I replied to you asking what he's achieved, if you think that we can attract a manager that has done anything meaningful then you should change you expectations. I've suggested Rowett and will continue to do so until im blue in the face.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 31, 2017 1:06:37 GMT
The lack of viable replacements is why we are stuck with LMH until the end of the season, i still believe we can't pick up the 18-20 we require. then massive revolution in the summer.
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Post by FrankButcher on Dec 31, 2017 1:11:21 GMT
on the subject of laudrup, didn't he win the league cup with swansea??
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Post by thisfootballclub on Dec 31, 2017 1:14:52 GMT
The lack of viable replacements is why we are stuck with LMH until the end of the season, i still believe we can't pick up the 18-20 we require. then massive revolution in the summer. I was taking this view myself but it's getting to the stage where anyone would be better due to the new manger effect that tends to sweep through a club? Let's not forget that if Hughes were to leave then the backroom would clear off as well and the players would have a new suite of managers to impress so all would be playing for their places?
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 31, 2017 1:21:26 GMT
The lack of viable replacements is why we are stuck with LMH until the end of the season, i still believe we can't pick up the 18-20 we require. then massive revolution in the summer. I was taking this view myself but it's getting to the stage where anyone would be better due to the new manger effect that tends to sweep through a club? Let's not forget that if Hughes were to leave then the backroom would clear off as well and the players would have a new suite of managers to impress so all would be playing for their places? Its who though, I desperately want him gone but i really am struggling to think of a realistic option that will 1 want to come here and 2 can rebuild the club from the bottom up. Ideal scenario for me is get to the end of the season, fuck him off and throw the cheque book at Brendan Rogers.
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Post by thisfootballclub on Dec 31, 2017 1:25:38 GMT
I was taking this view myself but it's getting to the stage where anyone would be better due to the new manger effect that tends to sweep through a club? Let's not forget that if Hughes were to leave then the backroom would clear off as well and the players would have a new suite of managers to impress so all would be playing for their places? Its who though, I desperately want him gone but i really am struggling to think of a realistic option that will 1 want to come here and 2 can rebuild the club from the bottom up. Ideal scenario for me is get to the end of the season, fuck him off and throw the cheque book at Brendan Rogers. This season is rapidly becoming just about survival though isn't it? The future for the club can be addressed at the end of the season and the board can discuss whether their interested in taking the club forward or just treading water and struggling every year.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 31, 2017 1:31:10 GMT
Its who though, I desperately want him gone but i really am struggling to think of a realistic option that will 1 want to come here and 2 can rebuild the club from the bottom up. Ideal scenario for me is get to the end of the season, fuck him off and throw the cheque book at Brendan Rogers. This season is rapidly becoming just about survival though isn't it? The future for the club can be addressed at the end of the season and the board can discuss whether their interested in taking the club forward or just treading water and struggling every year. It seems the board have taken the Sunderland approach to running a football club, it's alarming how quickly we have become a basket case, 18 months ago we were still being hailed as the best run club in the league and the ideal model for teams coming up. Last year's promoted teams are making us look like the pissed relative that everyone smiles sweetly at whilst wishing they would just fuck off.
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Post by hanibal7 on Dec 31, 2017 1:31:27 GMT
The lack of viable replacements is why we are stuck with LMH until the end of the season, i still believe we can't pick up the 18-20 we require. then massive revolution in the summer. I was taking this view myself but it's getting to the stage where anyone would be better due to the new manger effect that tends to sweep through a club? Let's not forget that if Hughes were to leave then the backroom would clear off as well and the players would have a new suite of managers to impress so all would be playing for their places? you mean the Pulls effect, Middlesboro losing at home, not scoring too
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 31, 2017 1:40:16 GMT
Check out @wizardsofdrivel’s Tweet: Read that tweet - we all know how it is anyway One for sheikhmomoWhat I hate is that it rings absolutely true to how the board have reacted. They're a bunch of clowns. The only thing that surprises me there is that Hughes watches Soccer Saturday. I presumed that with his lack of interest in how other teams play and how the game is progressing he'd have been watching the Sound of Bastard Music!
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Post by chonburipotter on Dec 31, 2017 3:23:24 GMT
I was taking this view myself but it's getting to the stage where anyone would be better due to the new manger effect that tends to sweep through a club? Let's not forget that if Hughes were to leave then the backroom would clear off as well and the players would have a new suite of managers to impress so all would be playing for their places? you mean the Pulls effect, Middlesboro losing at home, not scoring too But didn’t concede 5.......
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 31, 2017 3:28:09 GMT
One for sheikhmomo What I hate is that it rings absolutely true to how the board have reacted. They're a bunch of clowns. The only thing that surprises me there is that Hughes watches Soccer Saturday. I presumed that with his lack of interest in how other teams play and how the game is progressing he'd have been watching the Sound of Bastard Music! Nothing in there is surprising but the role of the ceo is to overseee every aspect of the club , that’s what he’s paid 900k a year for it’s incomptence of a staggering scale over a sustained period
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 6:17:01 GMT
We've got enough to stay up, just about.
We'll be looking at 13th or even lower, serious questions need to be asked in the summer.
His time is up
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 6:23:10 GMT
We've got enough to stay up, just about. We'll be looking at 13th or even lower, serious questions need to be asked in the summer. His time is up His time was up last summer and he's still bloody here !
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Post by marrer on Dec 31, 2017 7:24:10 GMT
The only thing that surprises me there is that Hughes watches Soccer Saturday. I presumed that with his lack of interest in how other teams play and how the game is progressing he'd have been watching the Sound of Bastard Music! Nothing in there is surprising but the role of the ceo is to overseee every aspect of the club , that’s what he’s paid 900k a year for it’s incomptence of a staggering scale over a sustained period Benji i live in oz and am reading your post (and agreeing as it happens) but surely you can't be posting at 3 or 4 in the morning or are you an expat like me?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 7:57:33 GMT
He has clearly stated money will be available in the January window, what more do you want him to say? Action speak louder than words Patience is a virtue.
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Post by NassauDave on Dec 31, 2017 9:25:48 GMT
We've got enough to stay up, just about. We'll be looking at 13th or even lower, serious questions need to be asked in the summer. His time is up Our atrocious negative goal difference alone could very likely see us fucked.
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Post by NassauDave on Dec 31, 2017 9:26:20 GMT
If only the cunt was Japanese........
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 31, 2017 12:05:04 GMT
You suggested Laudrup and then questioned Hughes record compared to Laudrup. Clearly Laudrup is not any better than Hughes. I believe Rowlett would be a good alternate to Hughes' but he's not available. Villas Boas is available in May but I doubt he'd want to come to us. There are very few decent managers available so I don't know where we go with this. I don't want the Pearsons and others that are on the merry go round. The fact I can't think of somebody is why I'm reluctant to join the Hughes out brigade. It wasn't me that suggested him, I replied to you asking what he's achieved, if you think that we can attract a manager that has done anything meaningful then you should change you expectations. I've suggested Rowlett and will continue to do so until im blue in the face. Crossed wires. I'm with you on Rowlett but he won't come to us.
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Post by senojbor on Dec 31, 2017 16:40:09 GMT
I've been a supporter longer than most people on this board have been alive and I can see what's around the corner. If we go down with these dreadful expensive players tied up on long term contracts we are truly fucked. Mind boggling amounts of money will be lost. Hughes has to go. They’ll be fine (the players that is) because they will have relegation get-out clauses in their contracts and we will be stuck with the dregs. As I said we will have players like Berahino alone cost the club at least ₤25m and he'll have no sell on value. The parachute payments wont cover the losses. There will be others, even if the main ones leave, that will be on premiership wages at their stage in their career wont go anywhere. Hughes should have gone at the end of last season as it was abundantly clear we needed a change.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Dec 31, 2017 21:47:01 GMT
Crystal Palace getting a point against Man City is an object lesson in how to manage a football match. Hughes out.
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