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Post by liam007 on Oct 21, 2017 17:49:35 GMT
If i was Coates, I'd be trying to find out if Big Sam could be tempted. If it's a yes then get it done ASAP. Agreed
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Post by DentySCFC on Oct 21, 2017 17:49:35 GMT
I’m at the point where I’d even take Moyes.
HUGHES OUT
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Post by songthrush01 on Oct 21, 2017 17:50:06 GMT
i reckon they would like another sheep shagger,step up mr coleman.peter coates likes hes leg of lambs.
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Post by ravey123 on Oct 21, 2017 17:51:01 GMT
I reckon he's got til the end of november - that's 5 games or so. If he does not get at least 5 points in the next 5 games I reckon he is gone. This gives a new man a month to look at the squad then act as early as possible in the Jan transfer window.
If we only get 2 or 3 points in the next 5 the only option will be big Sam but it wont be pretty.
He's probably the only realistic short term option anyway but we may have competition for his services from West Ham, Leicester, Everton and West Brom by then.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 21, 2017 17:51:11 GMT
My instinct is to say he hasn't done enough to get a Prem job. But maybe that's a bit arrogant. He seems as good a shout as any (but I do speak out of total ignorance about what type of manager he is) I presume he's a bit Pulis-y, is he? He wouldn't come 'til they were out of the World Cup though, would he? I think that's what we need to be honest. Not Pulis himself (I'd rather risk keeping Hughes) but someone who can get that shambolic defence organised and stop us giving stupid goals away. No, we'd be having to wait until they lose to Switzerland. Only a few weeks I think. Fuck Hughes off now, stick someone in as a temporary measure while we try and persuade Big Sam or Dyche, and by the time thye've both told us to fuck off, Northern Ireland will be out and we'll get O'Neill. Jobs a good un. Wagner at Udders would obviously be a decent shout too - but, like Dyche, don't think we're enough of a jump. If I was Big Sam, think I'd be tempted to stay in my villa on the Algarve and count my millions rather than take on another salvage operation at an unglamorous club. I think we're going to have to think outside the box if the trigger is pulled - which is why I think he won't pull the trigger. I still don't think he's seriously even considering it....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 21, 2017 17:51:37 GMT
No other manager outside the top 6 in the league survives conceding 7 and then losing to Bournemouth at home.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 21, 2017 17:52:05 GMT
How come you've defended Hughes this far but still our squad is so far short?? I've been saying for a while he can go mate BUT the caveat for me are the viable replacements that Coates would go for. I've also been saying that we have not spent enough money during his 4 and a bit seasons here. What we are seeing are the results of that. It is also true that the money he has been given hasn't been spent wisely. We've got big problems everywhere. The manager is only one of those but it's him that usually pays the price. Worrying times. I expected today that after a seven two mullering we'd be at it from the first whistle. In fact it was the total opposite which reflects very very poorly on the manager. Whilst I agree we haven’t spent enough money Pugs it’s hardly surprising he’s getting no more when you see the standard of his signings of late.Money thrown down the plug hole.The only way out of this situation now is to sack him and bring either Allardyce(who would do a good job imo) or Neville😮with an experienced number 2.We need somebody to motivate the players we have because Hughes isn’t doing it.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 21, 2017 17:52:09 GMT
How come you've defended Hughes this far but still our squad is so far short?? I've been saying for a while he can go mate BUT the caveat for me are the viable replacements that Coates would go for. I've also been saying that we have not spent enough money during his 4 and a bit seasons here. What we are seeing are the results of that. It is also true that the money he has been given hasn't been spent wisely. We've got big problems everywhere. The manager is only one of those but it's him that usually pays the price. Worrying times. I expected today that after a seven two mullering we'd be at it from the first whistle. In fact it was the total opposite which reflects very very poorly on the manager. Is that the sound of the penny finally dropping ?, Hughes is fucking our club up and has been doing since Christmas 2015.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 21, 2017 17:52:18 GMT
Pruning? More like a culling. Hughes has done well enough but his time is rapidly coming to an end. I just can't see ONE viable candidate that Coates would go for that would improve us. We'd end up with Moyes. Pottermus would improve us. Even Neil Aspin would improve us. I love the style of football of Big Sam and Dyche. At least the players would be fit, well organised and making an effort. - which you would think would be a basic requirement for any PL team yet Hughes prefers to rely on individual moments and ignores a lot of this. Both Sam and Dyche are way better for a club our size . Hughes style might work with good self motivated players .
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Post by TexasPotter on Oct 21, 2017 17:52:38 GMT
Seeing shouts on the inter webs were looking 😮, also literally just saw croc bites on the menu at a local. 😏 Wonder if that fuckery today moved others too?
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Oct 21, 2017 17:53:52 GMT
Never mind actually losing his job, the only way it would even be considered by the board would be if we lost the next 4 or 5 games on the bounce and started to get cut adrift at the bottom. Even then he'd probably be given 2 or 3 more games to turn things around.
I'd say you lot had better get used to Hughes being in position for some time yet.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 21, 2017 17:53:53 GMT
I've shown patience with Hughes for a long time. Maybe too much patience for too much time. However, the day's now come when Denise needs to open the dildo drawer. It was only fair to allow you one bad season, Les- you deserved a summer transfer window to sort your own mess out. You didn't sort it though, you did the football equivalent of trying to cover up poo by treading on it, and in the process have ended up smearing your own excrement across a much wider area. In fact, not only have you spread it, you've created a 100 foot wide Jackson Pollock-style tribute of steaming filth that spells out RELEGATION in huge brown letters. Thanks for the memories, Mr Hughes. Three 9th places was great, but this has gone on too long now and you clearly don't know how to fix it. I mean this with a sense of warmth and gratitude for some excellent performances earlier on in your tenure, but you do need to fuck off now. Denise will be meet you in the chairman's office with a 12-inch strap on and an axe. HUGHES OUT. (AXE! AXE! AXE!) I've been waiting for this post. It declares the managerial hunting season officially open. Like cutting a red ribbon. Welcome to the dark side
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Post by itsallgonepetetone on Oct 21, 2017 17:54:37 GMT
I’m curious, the default counter argument seems to be - replace him with who? How many people on here actually wanted Hughes to replace TP? I don’t recall him being a high option, or even wanted.
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Post by liam007 on Oct 21, 2017 17:54:40 GMT
I think that's what we need to be honest. Not Pulis himself (I'd rather risk keeping Hughes) but someone who can get that shambolic defence organised and stop us giving stupid goals away. No, we'd be having to wait until they lose to Switzerland. Only a few weeks I think. Fuck Hughes off now, stick someone in as a temporary measure while we try and persuade Big Sam or Dyche, and by the time thye've both told us to fuck off, Northern Ireland will be out and we'll get O'Neill. Jobs a good un. Wagner at Udders would obviously be a decent shout too - but, like Dyche, don't think we're enough of a jump. If I was Big Sam, think I'd be tempted to stay in my villa on the Algarve and count my millions rather than take on another salvage operation at an unglamorous club. I think we're going to have to think outside the box if the trigger is pulled - which is why I think he won't pull the trigger. I still don't think he's seriously even considering it.... Sorry mate,i disagree.He is a business man and has interest's to protect.He will already be searching.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 21, 2017 17:55:11 GMT
I've been saying for a while he can go mate BUT the caveat for me are the viable replacements that Coates would go for. I've also been saying that we have not spent enough money during his 4 and a bit seasons here. What we are seeing are the results of that. It is also true that the money he has been given hasn't been spent wisely. We've got big problems everywhere. The manager is only one of those but it's him that usually pays the price. Worrying times. I expected today that after a seven two mullering we'd be at it from the first whistle. In fact it was the total opposite which reflects very very poorly on the manager. Whilst I agree we haven’t spent enough money Pugs it’s hardly surprising he’s getting no more when you see the standard of his signings of late.Money thrown down the plug hole.The only way out of this situation now is to sack him and bring either Allardyce(who would do a good job imo) or Neville😮with an experienced number 2.We need somebody to motivate the players we have because Hughes isn’t doing it. Should have taken fat Sam in the summer or possibly the summer before, I have been lambasted by the Hughes apologists for suggesting Sam for two seasons, appears the tide is turning, Hughes is an incompetent manager he proved that at QPR and is now compounding it at Stoke.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 21, 2017 17:55:57 GMT
Hughes has got go...Please Should off got rid in the summer and replaced him with Marco silva I’ve been pining for him like a hysterical woman for ages, now look where Watford are.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 21, 2017 17:56:25 GMT
Pottermus would improve us. Even Neil Aspin would improve us. I love the style of football of Big Sam and Dyche. At least the players would be fit, well organised and making an effort. - which you would think would be a basic requirement for any PL team yet Hughes prefers to rely on individual moments and ignores a lot of this. Both Sam and Dyche are way better for a club our size . Hughes style might work with good self motivated players . No problem with either of those. My only concern is have we got the players for their preferred systems?
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 21, 2017 17:56:26 GMT
How come you've defended Hughes this far but still our squad is so far short?? I've been saying for a while he can go mate BUT the caveat for me are the viable replacements that Coates would go for. I've also been saying that we have not spent enough money during his 4 and a bit seasons here. What we are seeing are the results of that. It is also true that the money he has been given hasn't been spent wisely. We've got big problems everywhere. The manager is only one of those but it's him that usually pays the price. Worrying times. I expected today that after a seven two mullering we'd be at it from the first whistle. In fact it was the total opposite which reflects very very poorly on the manager. Sadly I can't really argue with any of that. Critically though I can't see a genuine replacement who I'd like AND would come. The fact that Allardyce seems the choice of many literally sends shudders down my spine. Crooked. Mercenary. One dimensional. PS No he doesn't remind me of a certain former manager!!!!
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Post by boothenboy75 on Oct 21, 2017 17:57:22 GMT
Signing players who don't fit a system he wants to play has done it for me. Time to go.
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Post by PolPotter on Oct 21, 2017 17:57:23 GMT
Hughes has got go...Please Fair enough then. To be replaced by who? You should be expecting the club to be looking from last season, yeah??
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 21, 2017 17:58:10 GMT
Never mind actually losing his job, the only way it would even be considered by the board would be if we lost the next 4 or 5 games on the bounce and started to get cut adrift at the bottom. Even then he'd probably be given 2 or 3 more games to turn things around. I'd say you lot had better get used to Hughes being in position for some time yet. I fear you may be right.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 21, 2017 17:58:16 GMT
I’d still be inclined to give him this run of winnable games and see what shape we’re in come December.
That said, if he went tomorrow I wouldn’t be arsed.
Galtier, Flores, Wagner, Jokanovic, Fonseca would all be interesting ones for me. If it has to be British I can’t see beyond Allardyce.
Ancelotti, Tuchel, Rodgers out of our league.
Really, really don’t want Dyche, Moyes, Coleman or Roberto sodding Mancini.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 21, 2017 17:59:43 GMT
- which you would think would be a basic requirement for any PL team yet Hughes prefers to rely on individual moments and ignores a lot of this. Both Sam and Dyche are way better for a club our size . Hughes style might work with good self motivated players . No problem with either of those. My only concern is have we got the players for their preferred systems? Same difference. We don't have wing backs to go with the current system.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 21, 2017 18:00:48 GMT
I've been saying for a while he can go mate BUT the caveat for me are the viable replacements that Coates would go for. I've also been saying that we have not spent enough money during his 4 and a bit seasons here. What we are seeing are the results of that. It is also true that the money he has been given hasn't been spent wisely. We've got big problems everywhere. The manager is only one of those but it's him that usually pays the price. Worrying times. I expected today that after a seven two mullering we'd be at it from the first whistle. In fact it was the total opposite which reflects very very poorly on the manager. Whilst I agree we haven’t spent enough money Pugs it’s hardly surprising he’s getting no more when you see the standard of his signings of late.Money thrown down the plug hole.The only way out of this situation now is to sack him and bring either Allardyce(who would do a good job imo) or Neville😮with an experienced number 2.We need somebody to motivate the players we have because Hughes isn’t doing it. Allardyce doesn't want a club job mate. Neville is too much of a risk for this ownership.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 21, 2017 18:01:29 GMT
If he is to go, and I'm not sure that he is, we should push the boat out to get Dyche. He might fancy a building project with patient owners and is the best we could do by a long way. I wonder if Bielsa could be tempted from abroad for half a season of lunacy... Dyche has already got a building project hasn't he mate? And he's constructing it lego like. I don't think he would leave there to come here in all honesty. As someone else said, it would be someone like Everton for him now. It might take a lot of incentive to get him here, but I think there's a remote possibility. We could probably offer him more resources than he'll get at Burnley, where the owners seem a bit happier to just cash in on being a PL team.
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Post by TexasPotter on Oct 21, 2017 18:02:24 GMT
I’m at the point where I’d even take Moyes. HUGHES OUT Me too. 😔
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Oct 21, 2017 18:04:02 GMT
Terrible first half much better second half after the team talk and changes. Always thought Ryan would make a good number 10.
Not arsed about seeing Diouf as striker again, far better with more involvement running up and down on the flank.
What's happened to Fletch?
Heard Hughes has been bollocking them up hill, down dale everyday in training since the man city debacle, we did look shellshocked and shagged by the end of the 45. Overdone the 'I expect a reaction' perhaps.
There are answers to some of that shite, sacking the manager at this stage isn't part of it. (Imo).
Bournemouth are a despicable bunch.. a loss to them hurts extra.
Ktf. And drink through it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 21, 2017 18:04:43 GMT
- which you would think would be a basic requirement for any PL team yet Hughes prefers to rely on individual moments and ignores a lot of this. Both Sam and Dyche are way better for a club our size . Hughes style might work with good self motivated players . No problem with either of those. My only concern is have we got the players for their preferred systems? Sam more than Dyche. Sam would find a use for the creative players we’ve got.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 21, 2017 18:04:48 GMT
Whilst I agree we haven’t spent enough money Pugs it’s hardly surprising he’s getting no more when you see the standard of his signings of late.Money thrown down the plug hole.The only way out of this situation now is to sack him and bring either Allardyce(who would do a good job imo) or Neville😮with an experienced number 2.We need somebody to motivate the players we have because Hughes isn’t doing it. Allardyce doesn't want a club job mate. Neville is too much of a risk for this ownership. Has he said that for definite mate?If so you’re looking at the likes of Pardew,Mancini,Pellegrini,Coleman and Moyes but I really haven’t got a clue tbh😄 What I am sure about now though is Mark Hughes should be sacked sooner rather than later.If the 1st half was a reaction to a 7-2 then god help us.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 21, 2017 18:05:46 GMT
I’d still be inclined to give him this run of winnable games and see what shape we’re in come December. That said, if he went tomorrow I wouldn’t be arsed. Galtier, Flores, Wagner, Jokanovic, Fonseca would all be interesting ones for me. If it has to be British I can’t see beyond Allardyce. Ancelotti, Tuchel, Rodgers out of our league. Really, really don’t want Dyche, Moyes, Coleman or Roberto sodding Mancini. This board has turned, Tox. Even previously reasonable posters are giving the thumbs down.
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