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Post by lordb on Oct 14, 2017 16:30:02 GMT
He's got till May.
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Oct 14, 2017 16:30:26 GMT
This just comes up after every defeat basically when we got a draw against united and beat arsenal was everyone saying it then! We won't be the last team take a battering there this season.
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Post by jarhead on Oct 14, 2017 16:31:16 GMT
Most said we wouldn’t get a win until Bournemouth next week and if we do beat them we will be on 11pts!
Today was a disaster but we have got to remember who we were playing and need to put this behind us and quickly.
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Post by fulagoals on Oct 14, 2017 16:31:26 GMT
Played 4 of the Top 6 in the first 8 games. Has exceeded expectations by getting 8 points from those games. Quite right. In turn we now face 4 of the bottom 6 in the next 5 games plus Watford. Anything other than 10/11 points needed/expected. I don’t personally think Mr Hughes is under any kind of pressure from Mr Coates at the moment. But having said that, the fact our 3 most expensive signings are turning out to be somewhat calamitous then I fear if we don’t get that points return from the next 5 games then the pressure will indeed seriously start to mount.
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Post by jonnynico on Oct 14, 2017 16:32:16 GMT
When the fixture list came out I said we'd be lucky to get 5 points from the fist 9 games, we've got 8 with a game to go. Before I get slated, no i'm not happy with today.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Oct 14, 2017 16:32:43 GMT
Ok to get the debate going: 3 managers who could come in & take over please I'm struggling to name one, never mind 3. I think I'll reserve judgment until we see how things go over our next 5-6 games. Pissing your pants after getting battered by this Man City side away from home is a mugs game. Think we've done alright so far this season. Plenty of room for improvement, but absolutely no reason to be hitting the panic button.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 16:32:55 GMT
When Hughes first arrived he was a wonderful breath of fresh air after Pulis, and for the first 2 years I was really happy with our progress and style of football. For the past 2 years however we have definitely regressed and it all seems to be heading rapidly in the wrong direction.
I wanted Hughes out at the end of last season but as Sir Peter obviously wasn't going to fire him I reluctantly decided to continue to give him some time to improve our decline. Apart from the Arse and Manure games I haven't really seen that much to indicate that we are improving. Today's result is immaterial as Man City are really, really good, but it is the manner of the defeat and the seeming lack of nous from the manager that makes me once again feel that his time is up and he should go.
I fear that Sir Peter will give him even more time but I personally think that he should get rid of Hughes ASAP.
Seeing Allardyce's name mentioned (hasn't he apparently "retired" ?) worries me but I am sure that he would be the type of English/British manager that would be attractive to Mr Coates.
It's a difficult question, I'd like him gone but I would worry who Coates will bring in when he does indeed need to replace Hughes.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 14, 2017 16:32:57 GMT
He has 3 top 10 finishes , and a 13th as the lowest net spenders for years on the bounce , before that only one finish outside the top 10 , he might be many things , might have run his course but he is not a crap manager , anyone keeps this the worst squad we've had in the premier league up is manager of the season and look elsewhere fur why the squad is so poor .
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Post by Theninjabadger on Oct 14, 2017 16:33:26 GMT
Oh that will be Strachan & Coleman for starters Won’t be Coleman he’d have to get Ramsey’s approval first
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Post by TexasPotter on Oct 14, 2017 16:33:32 GMT
This just comes up after every defeat basically when we got a draw against united and beat arsenal was everyone saying it then! We won't be the last team take a battering there this season. I think after this next run of games the true test of the situation barring the tough start we’ve had is where it all counts. I’m giving him till January myself he deserves the chance. I think he can do it but he is also his own worst enemy.
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Post by jonnynico on Oct 14, 2017 16:34:06 GMT
When the fixture list came out I said we'd be lucky to get 5 points from the fist 9 games, we've got 8 with a game to go. Before I get slated, no i'm not happy with today.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 14, 2017 16:35:03 GMT
Right now, I think it'll be less on the agenda than it was in last April/May time when the fans got worked up but Coates' finger was almost certainly nowhere near the trigger Today will be seen as an aberration against one of the best teams in the world. The games get much friendlier now before Christmas. I'm not overjoyed at all, but I doubt it's remotely even a talking point at HQ Absolutely spot on. We're not the first and absolutely will not be the last to be thumped by Pep's lot this season. Perspective is required. Quit with the excuses. That was gutless, embarrassing and downright shambolic. You could count on less than one hand the number of players who actually gave a shit. Ramadan was a special kind of wank, I have no words for Jese, Fletcher and wimmer whilst Tom Edwards...just Christ. Is there a worse debut in the history of football?
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Post by liathroid on Oct 14, 2017 16:38:33 GMT
sack him after that beating ,did Liverpool ,Watford even Everton when they were down to 10 men .hammered Everton as the Liverpool supporters might say KOP ON You forgot to mention Liverpool had 10 men😄 and what, these aren't the games you can judge him on ,but we scored 2GOALS ,how thats anyones guess ,but we did and thats the positive thing that comes out of todays game ,because nobody else has scored 2 against them
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Post by lee1982 on Oct 14, 2017 16:40:23 GMT
Absolutely spot on. We're not the first and absolutely will not be the last to be thumped by Pep's lot this season. Perspective is required. Quit with the excuses. That was gutless, embarrassing and downright shambolic. You could count on less than one hand the number of players who actually gave a shit. Ramadan was a special kind of wank, I have no words for Jese, Fletcher and wimmer whilst Tom Edwards...just Christ. Is there a worse debut in the history of football? are you fuckin for real? I havnt seen the game but Edwards set up the equaliser and wasnt even on the pitch for four of the fucking goals so i think its safe to say that yes there have been far worse debuts in the history of football.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 14, 2017 16:40:26 GMT
You forgot to mention Liverpool had 10 men😄 and what, these aren't the games you can judge him on ,but we scored 2GOALS ,how thats anyones guess ,but we did and thats the positive thing that comes out of todays game ,because nobody else has scored 2 against them You can judge him on how many times the team caves in under him imo
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Post by stokeoptimist on Oct 14, 2017 16:42:18 GMT
Fortunately Pete has a pair, unlike some of you lot!
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Post by bojanwonder on Oct 14, 2017 16:42:33 GMT
Overall I'd like a new manager. I don't dislike Hughes, but too often we are listless, disinterested, disorganised. But then we do put in good performances sometimes, man utd and arse this season. Its just weird how really really bad we can be at times I hate to agree in wanting a new manager but right now that's also how I feel. We've lost our identity and we're losing the plot. Please prove me wrong Sparky. Patience is starting to wear a bit thin now!
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Oct 14, 2017 16:44:52 GMT
I know this may not be popular, but if Mark Hughes does go I would like to see Frank Lampard installed. Intelligent, knows the game, great contacts and popular. Only lack of experience as a negative for me, so maybe an older overseer. Just my preferance.
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Post by prudhoessafehands on Oct 14, 2017 16:48:57 GMT
I know this may not be popular, but if Mark Hughes does go I would like to see Frank Lampard installed. Intelligent, knows the game, great contacts and popular. Only lack of experience as a negative for me, so maybe an older overseer. Just my preferance. Frank Lampard?? to take over an established Premier league club? Ive actually heard it all now. The only BRITISH (if thats P.C,s preference) candidates for the job are probably Dyche and Howe..Next game against Bournemouth is another big game for us. And for what its worth im still in the Hughes in camp
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 14, 2017 16:49:39 GMT
We've done OK considering the fixtures we've had which have been rotten.
Everton A Arsenal H Man U H Man C A Chelsea H WBA A Newcastle A Southampton H
To get 8 points from that set of fixtures is pretty decent. The big test is how we'll do when the easier fixtures start. If we fail to beat Bournemouth next week then the pressure will be well and truly on.
for me you have to look at the signings and yet again they look pretty poor with lots of issues not being addressed. Injuries of course haven't helped us build up any sort of continuity.
Fletcher = Decent signing. He'll always looks better against the lesser sides. Choupo = I like him, Good signing. jese = Totally anonymous maybe he'll come good against the lesser sides. Zouma = Class but he's not ours. Wimmer = Looks poor but not surprising with the lack of games. Indi = Good signing but not up to speed yet.
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Post by lee1982 on Oct 14, 2017 16:50:12 GMT
Quit with the excuses. That was gutless, embarrassing and downright shambolic. You could count on less than one hand the number of players who actually gave a shit. Ramadan was a special kind of wank, I have no words for Jese, Fletcher and wimmer whilst Tom Edwards...just Christ. Is there a worse debut in the history of football? are you fuckin for real? I havnt seen the game but Edwards set up the equaliser and wasnt even on the pitch for four of the fucking goals so i think its safe to say that yes there have been far worse debuts in the history of football. sorry obviously we didnt equalise meant to say he set up je second goal but the point remains the same
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Post by WhyDelilah on Oct 14, 2017 16:51:13 GMT
Hughes in.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 14, 2017 16:53:56 GMT
Big Sam. Eddie Howe. Dyche. I feel faint and a need to vomit. In LMH I trust. As much as Ginger Clout Face Dyche grates on me, he is doing better with less talent at his disposal than Hughes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 17:01:46 GMT
One piece of light at the end of the tunnel, the opening post. At least we have more points than I thought we would have. The only way is up!
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 14, 2017 17:06:25 GMT
Ok to get the debate going: 3 managers who could come in & take over please We only need 1 manager not 3
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 14, 2017 17:11:10 GMT
Ok to get the debate going: 3 British managers who could come in & take over please play by Peter's rules. Allardyce, Moyes and Pardew......eek!
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 14, 2017 17:16:45 GMT
I hope Wales offer him a way out , he has done some good things for us for sure but for me too many of his signings don't feel like Stoke players and don't work out and two thrashings this season already suggests he isn't working to improve our defending . If I was the club I'd worry about giving him more money to spend. Wimmer is worse than wolly so far
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 14, 2017 17:18:19 GMT
Next week we will tonk Bournemouth. Hughes isn't going anywhere and rightly so.
However, today was certainly horrific. I'm not going to dwell on it.
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Post by march4 on Oct 14, 2017 17:19:12 GMT
Out now tonight.
Should have gone months ago.
All he has done this summer is waste even more £Ms and further weaken the team.
Every single second longer he remains the club continues to get weaker.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 14, 2017 17:24:11 GMT
Out now tonight. Should have gone months ago. All he has done this summer is waste even more £Ms and further weaken the team. Every single second longer he remains the club continues to get weaker. He made a £12m profit in the summer it's not him that's deciding the levels of investment or executing the transfer strategy .
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