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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 21, 2018 15:28:15 GMT
Have MLS clubs started their pre season yet? New York's last game was on bonfire night. And their season doesn't start until March. So his fitness to play from the off may not be there. But I hope he signs, bloody good player. Pre-season starts next week, so he’s not going to be in peak shape just yet but I agree, he’s a very good player and is exactly the kind of youngster we should be perusing. At his age, fitness shouldn’t be an issue anyway, so you would think he would be ready to roll. Jack on the right with Bauer would mean some serious pace down that flank, and would free-up Shaq for the #10 role, where he is infinitely more effective.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 21, 2018 15:31:42 GMT
Jack Bauer.
My dreams have come true.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2018 15:32:00 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2018 15:34:08 GMT
WikiWiki says he was at Man Utd between the ages of 7-14. Sure I read that it has to be between the ages of 15-21 to qualify though?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2018 15:34:15 GMT
Have MLS clubs started their pre season yet? New York's last game was on bonfire night. And their season doesn't start until March. So his fitness to play from the off may not be there. But I hope he signs, bloody good player. Pre-season starts next week, so he’s not going to be in peak shape just yet but I agree, he’s a very good player and is exactly the kind of youngster we should be perusing. At his age, fitness shouldn’t be an issue anyway, so you would think he would be ready to roll. Jack on the right with Bauer would mean some serious pace down that flank, and would free-up Shaq for the #10 role, where he is infinitely more effective. It will depend what he's been doing I guess. There will be an element of rustiness certainly and we have no real rush to put him in straightaway. Better to get him proper fit than put him in undercooked imo.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 21, 2018 15:36:12 GMT
Dont wanna put a downer on things but isnt this part of planning for WHEN Shaqiri leaves not IF.
He has a World Cup this summer for Switzerland to put himself in the shop window and has consistently said he wants Champions League football.
I very much doubt that Shaqiri will be with us next season, so I hope this lad or Ramadan can fill his boots
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 21, 2018 15:38:06 GMT
Am I right in thinking he wouldn't actually count as a home-grown player? Strange but true? If he isnt FM its yet another example of something seriously wrong with the game. Edit- what would be even more bizarre is I think N'Goy and Verlinden count Yeah, I think they do - just like Huth did having come through the Chelsea youth. It is ridiculous. These rules were implemented to try and help our game and the national side, but it's actually making it worse as the Premier League clubs hog all the talent, meaning lower league clubs (and many overseas clubs) don't get the income from transfers they used to.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jan 21, 2018 15:39:57 GMT
Dont wanna put a downer on things but isnt this part of planning for WHEN Shaqiri leaves not IF. He has a World Cup this summer for Switzerland to put himself in the shop window and has consistently said he wants Champions League football. I very much doubt that Shaqiri will be with us next season, so I hope this lad or Ramadan can fill his boots If he can do something consistently to make champions league clubs interest then I'm sure he'll leave. If he can carry on like he did yesterday and take a few of his chances then that might happen but its definitely an IF.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2018 15:40:10 GMT
WikiWiki says he was at Man Utd between the ages of 7-14. Sure I read that it has to be between the ages of 15-21 to qualify though? I can't find anything
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2018 15:44:50 GMT
WikiWiki says he was at Man Utd between the ages of 7-14. Sure I read that it has to be between the ages of 15-21 to qualify though? I can't find anything The definition used by UEFA for home grown is those players regardless of their nationality, that have been trained by a club or by another club in their national association for at least three years between the ages of 15-21.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 21, 2018 15:50:28 GMT
Dont wanna put a downer on things but isnt this part of planning for WHEN Shaqiri leaves not IF. He has a World Cup this summer for Switzerland to put himself in the shop window and has consistently said he wants Champions League football. I very much doubt that Shaqiri will be with us next season, so I hope this lad or Ramadan can fill his boots Maybe, maybe not. Shaq may be too inconsistent to be a regular at a CL team and might spend a lot of time on the bench. Of course he will be more effective if he’s surrounded by better players. That said, he has been our best player so far this season, mainly because he has managed to avoid injuries.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2018 15:58:31 GMT
But the Premier League don't mention the need for the 3 years to be between the ages of 15-21 like the UEFA regs. So, in short, who knows?
“Home Grown Player” means a Player who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any Club (or club) affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three Seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the Season during which he turns 21) and, for the purposes of this definition of “Home Grown Player”, a Season will be deemed to commence on the date on which the relevant Summer Transfer Window closes and expire on the date of the final League Match of the Season;
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2018 16:05:25 GMT
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Post by feynmann2 on Jan 21, 2018 16:09:06 GMT
But the Premier League don't mention the need for the 3 years to be between the ages of 15-21 like the UEFA regs. So, in short, who knows? “Home Grown Player” means a Player who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any Club (or club) affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three Seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the Season during which he turns 21) and, for the purposes of this definition of “Home Grown Player”, a Season will be deemed to commence on the date on which the relevant Summer Transfer Window closes and expire on the date of the final League Match of the Season; Doesn't the fact he's played for the U21's mean he is 'home grown'?
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 21, 2018 16:10:10 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2018 16:10:11 GMT
But the Premier League don't mention the need for the 3 years to be between the ages of 15-21 like the UEFA regs. So, in short, who knows? “Home Grown Player” means a Player who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any Club (or club) affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three Seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the Season during which he turns 21) and, for the purposes of this definition of “Home Grown Player”, a Season will be deemed to commence on the date on which the relevant Summer Transfer Window closes and expire on the date of the final League Match of the Season; Doesn't the fact he's played for the U21's mean he is 'home grown'? No, don't think that has any impact bizarrely. Owen Hargreaves didn't count as home-grow when he was in the Prem.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2018 16:10:40 GMT
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Post by feynmann2 on Jan 21, 2018 16:11:42 GMT
Doesn't the fact he's played for the U21's mean he is 'home grown'? No, don't think that has any impact bizarrely. Owen Hargreaves didn't count as home-grow when he was in the Prem. Wow! thats just crazy
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2018 16:14:32 GMT
If the Sentinel's figures are correct, £3.25m is a hell of a deal for us when you see what Everton paid for Lookman from League One.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 21, 2018 16:15:09 GMT
Why are we all squabbling over whether he counts as a home grown player or not? It really makes no difference in the grand scheme of things, does it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2018 16:15:43 GMT
I hope it's done asap, just so he's in and training in this time off.
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Post by werrington on Jan 21, 2018 16:16:23 GMT
Doesn't the fact he's played for the U21's mean he is 'home grown'? No, don't think that has any impact bizarrely. Owen Hargreaves didn't count as home-grow when he was in the Prem. Owen Hargreaves wasn’t actually born in England though mate and had never been in this country before until he was called up for the national side Not sure if that makes a difference?
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 21, 2018 16:16:26 GMT
Its strange that the MLS haven't jumped on board with all these crazy transfer fees. $6million is what they got for Edu 10 years ago!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2018 16:16:38 GMT
Why are we all squabbling over whether he counts as a home grown player or not? It really makes no difference in the grand scheme of things, does it? Nope - but it kills 20 minutes on a rainy Sunday afternoon!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2018 16:18:13 GMT
Why are we all squabbling over whether he counts as a home grown player or not? It really makes no difference in the grand scheme of things, does it? Not squabbling, just trying to find the rule as our homegrown player quota was nearly below the 8 last time and we need more really.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jan 21, 2018 16:18:55 GMT
What do people think of this kid?
One for the future or is he likely play many this season?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2018 16:23:38 GMT
What do people think of this kid? One for the future or is he likely play many this season? You can imagine him getting on the bench initially, can't you? Other than Shaq, not many who enjoy playing on the right in the squad. Hard to see Choupo, Ramadan, Shaq and Harrison all getting in any 18 maybe? Interesting that this is another signing that's not REALLY a Lambo pick though.
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Post by mattador78 on Jan 21, 2018 16:25:16 GMT
Does Eric dier count as Home grown ? Didn’t he start with sporting Lisbon
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2018 16:28:16 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 21, 2018 16:31:04 GMT
They appear to have removed it now
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