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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 30, 2018 16:16:59 GMT
there should be a limit on how many players you can have on your books at one time, man city and Chelsea have ruined football in this country. Chelsea must have 30 players out on loan. now man city are buying everything insight, its not just the clubs fault. Players could come to teams such as Stoke, earn millions and play regular football, but young players, particularly British ones would rather play 3 games a season for the top 6 and suddenly realise at 32 that their career has passed them by. You only have to look at the young English players Arsenal gobbled up a few years back, where are they now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 16:19:34 GMT
Stoke should offer the £8-£10 million that the MLS said they wanted for him, either drag the deal out so he doesn't sign or if the offer gets rejected, then report it to FIFA as they accepted £5 million from Man City.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 30, 2018 16:21:39 GMT
there should be a limit on how many players you can have on your books at one time, man city and Chelsea have ruined football in this country. Chelsea must have 30 players out on loan. now man city are buying everything insight, I would suggest the easier option is to limit the number of players out on loan to a max of 5 or 6 in total. There is already a limit to how many loan players 1 club can have on their books. The loophole could easily be closed but now the horses gate has bolted it seems to late to close it. The powers that be at Man City & Chelsea would cause a right stink
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 30, 2018 16:24:16 GMT
Actually, the more you think about this, the more it absolutely stinks.
A thought exacerbated by the fact that a young creative player like him will have any spark dragged out of him by ol' VT.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Jan 30, 2018 16:31:25 GMT
The Man City (City Group) connection is massive with NYCFC. In the last couple of weeks the players have been out in Abu Dhabi and Dubai on photo shoots courtesy of Etihad. As others have said, once they decided they would get involved all bets were off. Nowt that the cretins in our transfer department could have done. What pisses me off is the least they could have done is pretend to have outbid us. Hopefully it works out for Jack. If nothing else he will learn how to play full back
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Post by salopstick on Jan 30, 2018 16:33:56 GMT
there should be a limit on how many players you can have on your books at one time, man city and Chelsea have ruined football in this country. Chelsea must have 30 players out on loan. now man city are buying everything insight, its not just the clubs fault. Players could come to teams such as Stoke, earn millions and play regular football, but young players, particularly British ones would rather play 3 games a season for the top 6 and suddenly realise at 32 that their career has passed them by. You only have to look at the young English players Arsenal gobbled up a few years back, where are they now. Or once they have made millions say on the bench for three years move citing a desire to play football but still expect top 4 club wages.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 30, 2018 16:36:35 GMT
its not just the clubs fault. Players could come to teams such as Stoke, earn millions and play regular football, but young players, particularly British ones would rather play 3 games a season for the top 6 and suddenly realise at 32 that their career has passed them by. You only have to look at the young English players Arsenal gobbled up a few years back, where are they now. Or once they have made millions say on the bench for three years move citing a desire to play football but still expect top 4 club wages. Yep, Greedy Bastard Clubs, Greedy Bastard Players and Greedy Bastard Agents. not much of the game left to love is there?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 30, 2018 16:46:39 GMT
This is a really shitty episode, we bid more than ManC but ultimately they get the deal because of their ownership of NY. Not sure we can blame much on the pizza boys on this one.Sadly he is a real talent and would have been a good long term signing. You have to feel for the lad...ended up with 4 months mentoring by Pulis in a shithole of the North East. We can't blame anything on them, we've been well and truly screwed.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 30, 2018 16:48:30 GMT
Can we shit bin it now?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 30, 2018 16:51:38 GMT
We can't afford to take the chance on more money than we think he's worth and to be honest i'm not that bothered. Shitteh's owners have just moved their money around whilst getting a bonus from Boro. It fucking stinks!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 16:56:22 GMT
Someone who's on twitter should tweet sky and ask them the question, why NYC & MLS wanted over double from us that what was accepted off Man City.
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 30, 2018 17:08:04 GMT
crossed my mind is this man city's revenge for Campbell signing!! yet again
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 30, 2018 17:24:08 GMT
Just sent this to sky Please can someone explain why Jack Harrison is costing less to Man city than what was demanded from stoke surely ownership of teams outside of the main one is an attempt to circumnavigate the FFP rules and get players of the big clubs books while still controlling where they go as we speak man city control/have interests in 6 clubs this is ruining football surely this manipulation of football should be stopped by fifa please do an investigation into this new practice as it is ruining football and manipulating transfer fees. it can also effect the national team as big clubs just buy up talent and dump them abroad stopping players development if enough ask the questions surely they will have to do a report in it
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jan 30, 2018 17:28:29 GMT
Someone who's on twitter should tweet sky and ask them the question, why NYC & MLS wanted over double from us that what was accepted off Man City. because in effect Man City are only buying Harrison from the MLS. The city group own both clubs so to a degree its like moving money from one wallet to another. I think Mooy at Huddersfield had some sort of similar move. My citeh mate reckons when Mooy moved from Citeh to Huddersfield the cost of the transfer was effectively what the city group bough Melbourne for (or they may have even turned a profit).
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Post by andystokey on Jan 30, 2018 17:34:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 17:34:57 GMT
Someone who's on twitter should tweet sky and ask them the question, why NYC & MLS wanted over double from us that what was accepted off Man City. because in effect Man City are only buying Harrison from the MLS. The city group own both clubs so to a degree its like moving money from one wallet to another. I think Mooy at Huddersfield had some sort of similar move. My citeh mate reckons when Mooy moved from Citeh to Huddersfield the cost of the transfer was effectively what the city group bough Melbourne for (or they may have even turned a profit). He's not on loan though to NYC, he has a contract with them, in effect then, they are ripping up his contract if he's costing Man City nowt. I get that Man City own them, but in that respect, they could have all the world superstars on free transfers if they bought all the players, stuck them at their various other clubs they own throughout the world and never break the FFP (which is a farce)
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Post by andystokey on Jan 30, 2018 17:43:47 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 30, 2018 18:13:58 GMT
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Post by sportsman on Jan 30, 2018 18:16:26 GMT
A little smile from TP I bet.
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Post by canadianmoose on Jan 30, 2018 18:16:35 GMT
Unreal. The whole saga stinks
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jan 30, 2018 18:16:35 GMT
Got to be foul player here by Man City. Wankers.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 30, 2018 18:16:54 GMT
What a fuckin joke football has become😡
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 30, 2018 18:19:02 GMT
That's a bit shit but it's not the end of the world. It'll do him more bad than good, no doubt. Look at Foden, supposedly a massive talent but his progress is being massively stunted by getting the odd few minutes here and there. Compare that with Sancho, playing first team football for Dortmund. It must be hard for these kids turning down the big clubs, but you'd like to think they have people around them that can give them good advice. Or maybe just mature enough/sensible enough to know that they aren't going to get any game time at a club like Man City, and just end up in the reserves or on the endless loan system carousel.
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Post by chamberlain on Jan 30, 2018 18:19:17 GMT
It stinks and it’s not right
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Post by luke2u on Jan 30, 2018 18:19:39 GMT
Can't even see anywhere that he has signed for Man City, and then he just turns up at Boro as a confitmed loan signing. I don't like it.
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Post by agingerstokie on Jan 30, 2018 18:19:40 GMT
At least we will get to see if he can cut it at a better level than MLS even if from afar
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 30, 2018 18:20:31 GMT
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Post by sportsman on Jan 30, 2018 18:24:05 GMT
Got to be foul player here by Man City. Wankers. I hope we have a chance in the future to pay them back. I hope we get chance to play them sometime and fuck their season up.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jan 30, 2018 18:24:54 GMT
Close the thread.
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Post by Hannibal on Jan 30, 2018 18:26:06 GMT
What a fucking joke, he'll become one of those players who goes on loan every season to shit championship teams and never get into the Man City first team. Fuck him
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