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Post by toppercorner on Sept 6, 2017 8:15:59 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 6, 2017 8:24:49 GMT
Ironic that Peter Coates is a big Labour donor - and this is how they want to repay him!  I wonder if the proposals would also include the banning of sponsorship of the stadium name and of pitch side advertising? If so you'd have to wonder if owning Stoke would become unattractive to bet365? |
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Post by johnbutlershair on Sept 6, 2017 8:24:58 GMT
I kind of agree with it to be fair. A lot FIFA don't allow the name of our stadium in their game and I have never liked seeing the kids strips without the sponsor on. Almost defies the meaning of replica strip. We are currently a premier league club so you think we wouldn't be short of finding a sponsor. How many premier league clubs are sponsored by gambling companies? |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 6, 2017 8:26:46 GMT
Better make sure they don't get in then.
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Post by rorymscfc on Sept 6, 2017 8:27:44 GMT
9 according to that article
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 6, 2017 8:27:57 GMT
I kind of agree with it to be fair. A lot FIFA don't allow the name of our stadium in their game and I have never liked seeing the kids strips without the sponsor on. Almost defies the meaning of replica strip. We are currently a premier league club so you think we wouldn't be short of finding a sponsor. How many premier league clubs are sponsored by gambling companies? Even when we were the Britannia - we were never referred to by that name in European games. And I seem to recall that most pitchside advertising disappeared when we played in Europe. I never understand why they don't bring in a second sponsor to sponsor the kids replica shirts and the shirts of our youth teams. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 6, 2017 8:39:12 GMT
I kind of agree with it to be fair. A lot FIFA don't allow the name of our stadium in their game and I have never liked seeing the kids strips without the sponsor on. Almost defies the meaning of replica strip. We are currently a premier league club so you think we wouldn't be short of finding a sponsor. How many premier league clubs are sponsored by gambling companies? Even when we were the Britannia - we were never referred to by that name in European games. And I seem to recall that most pitchside advertising disappeared when we played in Europe. I never understand why they don't bring in a second sponsor to sponsor the kids replica shirts and the shirts of our youth teams. Leave the kids kits alone. They are fine as they are with no crappy plastic brand splattered across the front of them. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 6, 2017 8:45:21 GMT
Oh I do hate Corbyn.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 6, 2017 8:48:41 GMT
I remember when we suddenly changed sponsor from Fradley Homes to Ansells and loads of people went and bought a new shirt.
Why be so arsed about the sponsor? It's only someone else to fuck the shirt up.
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 6, 2017 8:50:52 GMT
I do actually think they should............Sorry to be controversial!
My best friends sisters life was pretty much ruined by here husbands gambling addiction, her fella dropped £20 notes into machines like confetti. Re-Mortgaged the house, got out loans and basically got huge debts. They are now divorced and she is trying to re-build her life..........Pretty sad stuff but there is no doubt gambling is an addiction that can ruin families and can as destructive as drugs and booze if it gets hold of you
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 6, 2017 8:52:57 GMT
I remember when we suddenly changed sponsor from Fradley Homes to Ansells and loads of people went and bought a new shirt. Why be so arsed about the sponsor? It's only someone else to fuck the shirt up. Doesn't bother me whose name is on the shirts Joe. I'm more concerned with the income that sponsorship brings - I can see us finding difficulties in replacing the bet365 sponsorship (with a similar sized contract) if betting companies were not allowed to sponsor shirts. The trouble is that 9 clubs currently sponsored by betting companies would all be chasing sponsorship at the same time. |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Sept 6, 2017 8:55:52 GMT
change name on shirts to Bert365
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Post by walrus on Sept 6, 2017 8:56:25 GMT
I think the kids' shirts without a sponsor look good. A proper throwback. I wish they sold adult ones like that. Through choice I'd rather not be a walking advert for a company I have very little interest in (talking about sponsors in general here, obviously Bet365 and Stoke is a little different to most).
I would actually fully support a ban on betting advertising. I strongly defend anyone's right to have a bet, but there's a generation of young men now who think nothing at all of spunking a good portion of their paychecks on gambling, and it's not healthy. The bookies, who have worked hard to create an image of gambling being something you need to do to be one of the lads, have a lot to answer for.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 8:58:06 GMT
I do actually think they should............Sorry to be controversial! My best friends sisters life was pretty much ruined by here husbands gambling addiction, her fella dropped £20 notes into machines like confetti. Re-Mortgaged the house, got out loans and basically got huge debts. They are now divorced and she is trying to re-build her life..........Pretty sad stuff but there is no doubt gambling is an addiction that can ruin families and can as destructive as drugs and booze if it gets hold of you To an extent I completely agree shrewspotter. My issue is why should the majority be penalised by the minority. Surely shouldn't Labour be talking more about forcing betting companies to allocate/donate a bigger part of their sizable income towards helping those who you have just described rather than punitive measure pretending in some way it will make a difference. GD |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 6, 2017 8:59:33 GMT
Rest assured that if either party gets a big majority at the next election they will smash the entire gambling sector with a raft of burdensome regulation and restrictive red tape. The Gambling industry is on both of their radars. It's the latest moral football for politicians. If you want to save the Coates family from the embarrassment of only climbing 5 places a year in the Sunday Times Rich List rather than 50 then keep voting for hung parliaments!
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 6, 2017 9:00:52 GMT
I do actually think they should............Sorry to be controversial! My best friends sisters life was pretty much ruined by here husbands gambling addiction, her fella dropped £20 notes into machines like confetti. Re-Mortgaged the house, got out loans and basically got huge debts. They are now divorced and she is trying to re-build her life..........Pretty sad stuff but there is no doubt gambling is an addiction that can ruin families and can as destructive as drugs and booze if it gets hold of you To an extent I completely agree shrewspotter. My issue is why should the majority be penalised by the minority. Surely shouldn't Labour be talking more about forcing betting companies to allocate/donate a bigger part of their sizable income towards helping those who you have just described rather than punitive measure pretending in some way it will make a difference. GD You are right GD. It does worry me if my lad gets involved in gambling though as I have seen the damage it can do
One thing they should do is restrict the amount of money you can gamble on these machines in betting shops, that would be a start....or even a complete ban
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 6, 2017 9:09:08 GMT
I do actually think they should............Sorry to be controversial! My best friends sisters life was pretty much ruined by here husbands gambling addiction, her fella dropped £20 notes into machines like confetti. Re-Mortgaged the house, got out loans and basically got huge debts. They are now divorced and she is trying to re-build her life..........Pretty sad stuff but there is no doubt gambling is an addiction that can ruin families and can as destructive as drugs and booze if it gets hold of you Problem gambling is massively on the rise, too. It's so much easier to place bets than it used to be with online gambling. It's worse than drink in many ways, because most publicans would have to stop serving you if you were really hammered, but a bookie will never tell you to stop losing money. |
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Post by madnellie on Sept 6, 2017 9:20:10 GMT
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Post by burge2u on Sept 6, 2017 9:23:14 GMT
change name on shirts to Bert365 ..... you Herbert |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 6, 2017 9:28:03 GMT
Rest assured that if either party gets a big majority at the next election they will smash the entire gambling sector with a raft of burdensome regulation and restrictive red tape. The Gambling industry is on both of their radars. It's the latest moral football for politicians. If you want to save the Coates family from the embarrassment of only climbing 5 places a year in the Sunday Times Rich List rather than 50 then keep voting for hung parliaments! Don't worry, I hate May too. I just think they should leave them to it. If people want to gamble they will gamble. Not the gambling companies faults. |
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Post by mrred on Sept 6, 2017 9:37:11 GMT
Considering Bet365 is plastered over every advertising board in the league at any given time, I think we'd get away with not having them on the shirt. Plus it'd look miles better without a sponsor. Only alternative I'd take is Carling, like the good old days.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 10:08:15 GMT
Haha take that Peter .....that'll teach you to spunk money on those fucking idiots Made my day  PS Sort the coffee out on match day. £2.20 and IT'S LIKE PISS WATER! |
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 6, 2017 10:22:10 GMT
I've been watching football for all of my life and, in spite of all of the advertising for gambling and everything else (such as the handing out of betting slips when you go into hospitality), I've never placed any kind of bet, and have never had even the slightest inclination to do so.
Maybe, just maybe, there are other, more complicated causes for people initially getting themselves into gambling trouble that go beyond there being a lot of advertising. If politicians were really bothered, maybe they'd try to address those causes, rather than merely trying to be seen to be doing something with a daft sticking plaster solution.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 10:40:36 GMT
This isn't even a topic for discussion on other fanzines - even ones with betting companies as their sponsors.
We are only concerned because our club is unique in the sense it's completely tied to one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 10:58:21 GMT
Labour can fuck off
So can the Tories
And the Lib Dems
And UKIP
And all of them
I'll be in charge
And the first thing I'll change
Is that all message board posts have to be written in the tonydreamtheatre style
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 11:01:38 GMT
Never liked them on shirts especially with young kids
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Sept 6, 2017 11:20:11 GMT
the country if not the world is in total chaos, with North Korea threatening a nuclear disater and this is top of the priority lists. for fuck sake, deal with the things that are important to the man in the street, stop trying delay the brexit negotiations. sort the NHS out, sort the housing crisis out, re equip our armed forces, deal with the social media giants to get a grip of child exploitation - the list goes on. if only Guy Fawkes had suceeded. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 6, 2017 11:22:16 GMT
Never liked them on shirts especially with young kids The junior shirts don't have the advertising panel. Neither do most of our Academy teams' shirts. |
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Post by shangamuzo on Sept 6, 2017 11:36:58 GMT
Gambling isn't as big a killer as smoking is to the best of my knowledge. When the fun stops, stop is best advice. |
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Post by raythesailor on Sept 6, 2017 11:42:32 GMT
I don't think an advert has ever inspired me to do or buy anything.
Gambling is undoubtedly a cause for concearn for some people. Getting rid of advertising will have little and probably no effect.
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