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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:55:14 GMT
Bit of a strange one for me, he is a decent player but I don't see him improving that Chelsea team (certainly not the starting lineup anyway). Another club where he will spend a lot of time on the bench, making up the homegrown quota. Bit of a waste.
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Post by Boothen on Aug 28, 2017 20:58:59 GMT
Strange one that, I always thought it to be rats that deserted sinking ships.
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Post by adamsson on Aug 28, 2017 20:59:18 GMT
Yes but they need to make the homegrown quota so he gets lots of money and weekends off. No great loss to the Arse
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 28, 2017 21:00:17 GMT
I thought his gripe was about not being played in centre mid - like you say, is he expecting to walk into their central midfield?
He would be an unbelievable signing for us but he seems to be in that awkward spot of being to be good for mid table prem and not good enough for the top 4. Should stay at Arsenal with that in mind because they're not top 4 anymore.
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Post by manchesterpotter on Aug 28, 2017 21:04:54 GMT
He'll be wingback cover for Moses and Alonso. Might get the odd game in midfield in a cup game.
What I don't get is that he said turning down the contract over at Arsenal was nothing to do with the money and all about not playing enough or in the right position.
That means he's either a liar and it is about the money, or he somehow thinks he's actually good enough to get ahead of Willian, Pedro and Hazard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 21:06:26 GMT
Don't blame him to be honest for wanting out of Arsenal, but going to Chelsea is a strange one as he will be seeing just as much bench time there as he does at Arsenal and he's far too good a player to not be playing week in week out.
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 28, 2017 21:06:56 GMT
Such a waste of a good player. Hop he does get the chance to show his quality
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 28, 2017 21:09:57 GMT
I thought he would've suited Liverpool with his style but they have turned their attention to Lemar apparently and that really would be an amazing signing for them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 21:10:15 GMT
Underrated.
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 28, 2017 21:10:18 GMT
maybe another try for victor Moses if chamberlain goes chelsea
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 21:18:21 GMT
I thought he would've suited Liverpool with his style but they have turned their attention to Lemar apparently and that really would be an amazing signing for them. I'd have thought Liverpool or Tottenham (not that he would want to cause a fuss and go there). He would get regular football at either of those, Everton too but I think he is maybe better than them. Maybe he will be available in a year or two and we can sign him up after he is bored of sitting on the bench. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 28, 2017 21:23:35 GMT
He will be on loan to us next season 😀
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 28, 2017 21:27:03 GMT
But stoke loud & proud said he was coming here
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 28, 2017 21:36:28 GMT
He needed to take a step back to go forward.
Everton, Stoke, back to Soton or Leicester etc.
He needs to be playing every week and he won't at Chelsea.
Still he'll make a load of money and live in London, whatever floats your boat.
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Post by nutterpotter on Aug 28, 2017 21:37:21 GMT
But stoke loud & proud said he was coming here No they didn't |
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Post by kiwistokie on Aug 29, 2017 4:08:01 GMT
going West ham as they are a go forward club, Arine will put in a good word
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 29, 2017 4:34:08 GMT
Surely Chelsea have aspirations to win the European Cup again. Ox isn't in that category of player. Is he?
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Post by nott1 on Aug 29, 2017 5:11:20 GMT
Surely Chelsea have aspirations to win the European Cup again. Ox isn't in that category of player. Is he? No. |
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Post by george2again on Aug 29, 2017 5:34:53 GMT
Being honest the Ox is pretty crap for any top 7 team . No end product and one of those who has been lucky in his career. How someone of his ability has turned dwn a contract worth £180.00 a week at Arsenal shows how much our beloved game has declined. Poor goal scoring record, really poor, Chelsea are just spending 30 mill plus to get a home grown player. Sad part of modern football.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 29, 2017 5:36:32 GMT
Someone on Twitter summed him up perfectly:
"He's been in the Premiership for 6 years and I've still got no idea if he's any good or not".
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Post by george2again on Aug 29, 2017 5:50:25 GMT
Someone on Twitter summed him up perfectly: "He's been in the Premiership for 6 years and I've still got no idea if he's any good or not". Bang on, what is he actually good at? Would he even be near the England squad if he didn't play for the Arse. Hate his nick name, ''The Ox'' as well portrays him as a strong workhose or superhero when he is nothing like that. Average Prem player creaming it. |
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Post by aldershotstoke on Aug 29, 2017 6:01:30 GMT
Add him to the scrapheap of potentially promising young English footballers who never quite made it because they chased cash rather than wanting to play football week in week out.
No doubt will still be picked for England.
Bench player for Arse/Chelsea at best. Would have been better off at a mid table club or even going abroad (English players need to improve on this) to really showcase his talents and to work out his best position. I'm not convinced he knows his best position yet!
It's a real shame and a waste of talent frankly, but such is football these days.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 6:04:31 GMT
Every time I read "The Ox" I just want to crawl up my own arse. Cringeworthy.......
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Post by pyrus on Aug 29, 2017 7:27:48 GMT
I hope it all works out for him, he comes across as a decent lad and I think that he is one of very few creative English players who can make things happen in the international team.
However... I have a feeling that this move just alerts clubs like us that, unless something unexpected happens, he will be available for loan next season. Looking at Chelsea's reasons for the deal, it could be seen as quite a cynical move. It stops him playing for any of Chelsea's main rivals, and stops him playing against Chelsea at all. It's not like they down't have a record for doing this sort of thing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 11:26:43 GMT
Cheeky loan bid maybe...Or are we at our capacity for loanees...
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 29, 2017 11:35:28 GMT
Wouldn't want him anywhere near a Stoke shirt. A completely overrated English player from the same "can run fast and kick a ball" mould as Wheelchair and Wallsnott.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 29, 2017 11:37:43 GMT
Can only see him replacing Moses at right wing back or just making up the numbers on the bench.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 11:39:18 GMT
Add him to the scrapheap of potentially promising young English footballers who never quite made it because they chased cash rather than wanting to play football week in week out. No doubt will still be picked for England. Bench player for Arse/Chelsea at best. Would have been better off at a mid table club or even going abroad (English players need to improve on this) to really showcase his talents and to work out his best position. I'm not convinced he knows his best position yet! It's a real shame and a waste of talent frankly, but such is football these days. Didn't he turn down the cash at Arsenal for that exact reason? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 29, 2017 11:40:42 GMT
Wouldn't want him anywhere near a Stoke shirt. A completely overrated English player from the same "can run fast and kick a ball" mould as Wheelchair and Wallsnott. I thought he was Arsenal's best player in the first half against us last week. Looked very dangerous and he's way more creative than Walcott. His influence faded in the second half when Wenger rejigged the formation and personnel. |
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Post by st9 on Aug 29, 2017 11:42:06 GMT
Moses upgrade
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