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Post by stillgame4it on Aug 28, 2017 21:57:07 GMT
Yes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 21:57:13 GMT
He's a bloody long leg end that's for sure
Certainly he is and Abbey they have helped raise our profile and long may they continue to do so.
Most thought he was coming to Stoke for a meal ticket when in fact it is him who has been feeding us with goals and attention.
His professionalism is an example for all our squad. Hope he stays to coach and more.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 28, 2017 21:58:39 GMT
Depends how you define the term Legend really. I'd say no personally, even though he has been a good player for us and scored one of the best goals I've ever seen a Stoke player score, Legend status is going a bit too far for me and is reserved for the likes of the cup winning team of the 70's,Sir Stan,some of Macari's league winning side and some of Pulis' promotion team. I respect the right for anyone to define a legend anyway they choose but am surprised that for you it seems to be about winning at any level rather than the ability and contribution of any player individually. Do you really believe that players who won the 3rd tier title or got promoted are legends more than say Freddie Steele or Neil Franklin? On the topic, more than a 1000 players have played for our beloved club. Crouch has played more games than all but about 60 and scored more goals than all but about 20. All whilst playing in the top division. He's a legend for me. I would put any of our top 100 players as legends. And of course people like Matthews, Steele, Franklin, Banks and Ritchie as all time greats.
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Aug 28, 2017 21:58:49 GMT
People get so hung up on this legend title. Look at him. The provider of goals over a good period of time, basic headers and moments of sheer class, wears the shirt with pride, loves the fans, the club. Has dug us out the shit more than once. He talks about stoke city like we are something to be proud of. He will without a doubt be remembered and talked about for years to come.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 22:01:02 GMT
A confession to make. I never took to Crouch as far as him being a real Stoke player was concerned. Indisputably likeable and talented - you don't score them many goals just by being tall, but I'd always had this feeling that he'd probably prefer to be anywhere but Stoke. Then yesterday watching the match down at the pub, I watched as he ran away having scored, with a mega-sized grin on his face, and something changed. I'm utterly sick of Stoke losing to Pulis, and at that moment, Crouch looked like he'd enjoyed scoring that goal in the same way that I enjoyed watching him do it. As of yesterday, in my head, Crouchie is now a Stokie. Sorry it took me so long Pete!
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Post by ohbottom on Aug 28, 2017 22:02:29 GMT
Is Fuller a legend? Scored 43 league goals in 182 games (more than half of those goals before we got promoted). Crouch - 41 in 173. All in PL, many from off the bench.
For me he is definitely legend
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Post by Will_75 on Aug 28, 2017 22:03:26 GMT
People get so hung up on this legend title. Look at him. The provider of goals over a good period of time, basic headers and moments of sheer class, wears the shirt with pride, loves the fans, the club. Has dug us out the shit more than once. He talks about stoke city like we are something to be proud of. He will without a doubt be remembered and talked about for years to come. What he said. Love the guy. Crouchy that is, although I'm sure Roots is lovely. He has corking taste in music, which is always a good sign. Roots not Crouchy.
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Post by ohbottom on Aug 28, 2017 22:06:03 GMT
Fuller is a legend. Different player from our Pete. They both seem to be legends for me. anyone got the stats? Here you go, put this up before I saw your reply: Is Fuller a legend? Scored 43 league goals in 182 games (more than half of those goals before we got promoted). Crouch - 41 in 173. All in PL, many from off the bench. For me he is definitely legend In all games: PC 56 from 204, Fuller 50 from 208
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Post by Uncle cheese on Aug 28, 2017 22:16:01 GMT
I think he is, he loves playing for us and has never really let us down.
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Post by oatcakesteve on Aug 28, 2017 22:19:09 GMT
Absolutely. He's been with us longer than he has been with any other club, so obviously likes it here. He has contributed hugely to our success, and is definitely a fan favourite. I love the guy.
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Post by Etain Tur-Mukan on Aug 28, 2017 22:23:05 GMT
Yup from me. In years to come he'll be remembered. I remember Sammy Irvine and Steve Foley I'm pretty certain its not because they're legendary players. I do too, plus the likes of Ernie Tapei and Vince Hilaire. Unlike the likes of those mentioned Crouch has done what he has done for us and will hopefully continue to do it for us for a while yet. He isn't AS legendary as some, some of whom we'd all agree on, but he is a legend.
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 28, 2017 22:29:18 GMT
......of course he is - has anyone scored more prem goals for us? (genuine question as I don't know - but guessing not?) Walters has scored more premier league goals
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Aug 28, 2017 22:29:40 GMT
People get so hung up on this legend title. Look at him. The provider of goals over a good period of time, basic headers and moments of sheer class, wears the shirt with pride, loves the fans, the club. Has dug us out the shit more than once. He talks about stoke city like we are something to be proud of. He will without a doubt be remembered and talked about for years to come. exactement
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2017 22:35:50 GMT
People get so hung up on this legend title. Look at him. The provider of goals over a good period of time, basic headers and moments of sheer class, wears the shirt with pride, loves the fans, the club. Has dug us out the shit more than once. He talks about stoke city like we are something to be proud of. He will without a doubt be remembered and talked about for years to come. Great post mate, as usual.
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 28, 2017 22:42:41 GMT
Legend? No. Icon most definitely
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Post by mrteddysalad on Aug 28, 2017 22:56:16 GMT
any man that does this... is a legend imo
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 28, 2017 23:37:12 GMT
More of a cult figure. I wouldn't say that he's been our best option up front for any more than about 6 - 8 months of his time here. That said, he's very likeable and I like having him associated with the club, much like Mama Sidibe.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 28, 2017 23:50:30 GMT
He will be,if he helps us win a Cup.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 28, 2017 23:53:55 GMT
How can he be a legend? He's still here for crying out loud!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 28, 2017 23:58:48 GMT
He's had an odd career with us really.
He was never needed and really did sound the death knell for TP. The play changed when he arrived and it was for the worse.
But he still scored. He still was just Crouchy. And that's a lovable bloke who plays with an awkward style who you just want to succeed.
I don't think he's a legend but he's certainly been a cracking player for us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 0:31:02 GMT
When crouch first came he was miles.above the other players. Tons of balls were knocked into space and ran out as rest of the team were not on the same level.
The teams now caught up, he brings big punts from team mates now but fair play he scores goals when asked.
Are there any other starters which do the same?
I don't think so else he wouldn't get brought on when a game needs winning!!!
To me it seems hughes thinks the system isn't fine tuned enough sod it put crouch on rescue it.
It's a bit of a tough one really if in hughes shoes
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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 29, 2017 3:15:57 GMT
Of Course he is, and will be remembered as such by the media at Large.
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Post by Gods on Aug 29, 2017 3:52:49 GMT
Depends how you define the term Legend really. I'd say no personally, even though he has been a good player for us and scored one of the best goals I've ever seen a Stoke player score, Legend status is going a bit too far for me and is reserved for the likes of the cup winning team of the 70's,Sir Stan,some of Macari's league winning side and some of Pulis' promotion team. Macari's league winning side was the old division 3 mate.
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Post by andrewguk on Aug 29, 2017 4:05:48 GMT
any man that does this... is a legend imo I don't remember that celebration What was the reason behind that one? What game was it too?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 5:25:34 GMT
100% legend. Players love him, fans love him, he is just an all round great bloke. And without him I doubt we'd have signed Wilson Palacios, so just for that reason alone...LEGEND...
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Post by stubbo1 on Aug 29, 2017 6:18:26 GMT
100% legend. Players love him, fans love him, he is just an all round great bloke. And without him I doubt we'd have signed Wilson Palacios, so just for that reason alone...LEGEND...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 8:28:33 GMT
Depends how you define the term Legend really. I'd say no personally, even though he has been a good player for us and scored one of the best goals I've ever seen a Stoke player score, Legend status is going a bit too far for me and is reserved for the likes of the cup winning team of the 70's,Sir Stan,some of Macari's league winning side and some of Pulis' promotion team. I respect the right for anyone to define a legend anyway they choose but am surprised that for you it seems to be about winning at any level rather than the ability and contribution of any player individually.
Do you really believe that players who won the 3rd tier title or got promoted are legends more than say Freddie Steele or Neil Franklin? On the topic, more than a 1000 players have played for our beloved club. Crouch has played more games than all but about 60 and scored more goals than all but about 20. All whilst playing in the top division. He's a legend for me. I would put any of our top 100 players as legends. And of course people like Matthews, Steele, Franklin, Banks and Ritchie as all time greats. I would agree with vincentvega in that you can only judge the player at the time based on the level at which we were playing. There have been players at clubs who have been a key part of their rising through divisions - are they all of a sudden meant to be disregarded because it is all about success at the highest level? But - I guess defining a legend is along the same lines as defining a big club. You just aren't going to get consensus on it; and if two people have different views on whether a player is a legend or not - then so be it. It's good for a discussion though
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 8:44:01 GMT
He's bigger than a Stoke legend he's a footballing legend.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 9:09:30 GMT
Depends how you define the term Legend really. I'd say no personally, even though he has been a good player for us and scored one of the best goals I've ever seen a Stoke player score, Legend status is going a bit too far for me and is reserved for the likes of the cup winning team of the 70's,Sir Stan,some of Macari's league winning side and some of Pulis' promotion team. Macari's league winning side was the old division 3 mate. I'm well aware of that fact mate. Like I said it depends how you define the term Legend really. There are some players that every Stoke fan will call a legend, for example Sir Stan,Banksy and Ritchie. Then there are a whole host of players that will be legends in the eyes of certain fans but not others as it's all down to personal preference. The Macari years were the first time as a Stoke fan that I saw us having any sort of success and no matter what division it was some of those players are legends in my eyes as they gave me some of my favourite moments supporting us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 9:11:52 GMT
Depends how you define the term Legend really. I'd say no personally, even though he has been a good player for us and scored one of the best goals I've ever seen a Stoke player score, Legend status is going a bit too far for me and is reserved for the likes of the cup winning team of the 70's,Sir Stan,some of Macari's league winning side and some of Pulis' promotion team. I respect the right for anyone to define a legend anyway they choose but am surprised that for you it seems to be about winning at any level rather than the ability and contribution of any player individually. Do you really believe that players who won the 3rd tier title or got promoted are legends more than say Freddie Steele or Neil Franklin? On the topic, more than a 1000 players have played for our beloved club. Crouch has played more games than all but about 60 and scored more goals than all but about 20. All whilst playing in the top division. He's a legend for me. I would put any of our top 100 players as legends. And of course people like Matthews, Steele, Franklin, Banks and Ritchie as all time greats. Fair enough and you make some good points that are difficult to disagree with but please see my reply to God's post for where I stand on this matter as I conna be arsed to type it out again
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