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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 10:03:09 GMT
He's deleted his thank you post to Stoke on his instagram page...pretty much sums this spoilt brat up Indeed. Anyone notice the similarities between yesterdays sending off and his one last season also against Soton ? Roughed up 5 minutes then a rash challenge Straight red, great player (Some of the time) Loose Cannon (Most of the time) was he disruptive ? Possibly
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Post by takeshikovacs on Aug 20, 2017 10:14:48 GMT
'His first one and a bit games for us he has been utter pony, total waste of money. He can't even get his free kicks past the first defender. He can only get better, hopefully.' '..he has started out very Snodgrassy plus a horrible chunk of petulance thrown in.' 'The player was an utter twat and let everyone down today. Record signings should come with the right temperament and attitude...isn't that part of what you are buying? On this performance, he was way overpriced' 'What worries me more is how hes gone from being Stokes best player and costing 20 odd million to being one of our worst players and unable to beat a first man in a set piece in just 2 weeks.' All quotes from KUMB. Not 'appy 'ammers! Should we put in a cheeky £2m bid before the window closes? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by apb1 on Aug 20, 2017 10:17:53 GMT
Armie was a great player for us. I hope he fails miserably now and that Jesé is better than him. Extrapolating that he was holding us back? Nah.
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Post by theteacher on Aug 20, 2017 10:21:01 GMT
Always an easy thing to say after a win, but Arnautovic isn't a team man and does/did look a toxic influence and we've done well to get all that money for such an inconsistent player From what I hear the Club have moved on or lost a few of what you call our "toxic" players. LHM building a team and I don't just mean the 1st team - a team hopefully all pulling in the same direction with a common goal. I think we should move on and stop talking about certain players when they have departed the Club - let's concentrate on who we have at the Club and who we want to add to the Club (history is history - learn from it but don't dwell in it)....
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 20, 2017 10:47:48 GMT
He's deleted his thank you post to Stoke on his instagram page...pretty much sums this spoilt brat up Indeed. Anyone notice the similarities between yesterdays sending off and his one last season also against Soton ? Roughed up 5 minutes then a rash challenge Straight red, great player (Some of the time) Loose Cannon (Most of the time) was he disruptive ? Possibly What was his thank you post? Don't think I ever saw it?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 20, 2017 10:55:46 GMT
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Post by alster on Aug 20, 2017 11:09:56 GMT
A showy player who plays for himself not for the team. He helped stoke in some games and was the worst player on the pitch in other games. Many fans myself included see a show pony or two in a football team as pretty vital for the entertainment value of the game and by their very nature wide players blow hot and cold. He was good value for Stoke in almost every way but he's gone now and we've seen that he's been replaced at least temporarily with another player who can turn on the style. Rather disappointed by the way with Ramadan's short contribution, what's up with him? I could understand him being unhappy with players being bought in, in front of him but he'll do himself no good by sulking.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 20, 2017 11:17:03 GMT
Brother will be looking for another transfer already!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 11:20:20 GMT
Indeed. Anyone notice the similarities between yesterdays sending off and his one last season also against Soton ? Roughed up 5 minutes then a rash challenge Straight red, great player (Some of the time) Loose Cannon (Most of the time) was he disruptive ? Possibly What was his thank you post? Don't think I ever saw it? I dont recall it either Clarke, i saw one with him slouched in the back of a car with his baseball cap reveresd (like Harry Enfields Kevin) flicking the Vs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 11:53:06 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 20, 2017 12:01:32 GMT
Anyone can see jese is better than arnie.
Arnie wouldn't have scored his chance and he never produced a dribble like the one jese did in the first half.
Smart business by the club.
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Post by jwhpotter on Aug 20, 2017 12:07:56 GMT
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 20, 2017 12:10:44 GMT
I've never been a fan of his and was slated on occasions when I had a pop at him in the past. He does have skills in his game but there were aspects of his game and his attitude at times that left me sighing. For me he will be no great loss. Wins away at Southampton and two decent performances this without him seem to confirm that. I hope now we can lift the mood of doom and gloom that we will struggle early season and push on. Yeah, you should acknowledge what a terrific job Hughes has done to make the club £20million on a player and replaced him for nothing without the team missing a beat. Go on.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Aug 20, 2017 12:14:45 GMT
A showy player who plays for himself not for the team. He helped stoke in some games and was the worst player on the pitch in other games. Many fans myself included see a show pony or two in a football team as pretty vital for the entertainment value of the game and by their very nature wide players blow hot and cold. He was good value for Stoke in almost every way but he's gone now and we've seen that he's been replaced at least temporarily with another player who can turn on the style. Rather disappointed by the way with Ramadan's short contribution, what's up with him? I could understand him being unhappy with players being bought in, in front of him but he'll do himself no good by sulking. Sure Arni has good skills but he always thinks about himself before the team, I love to watch some skills and tricks too but it should be of benefit for the team. I dont know if Ramadan is unhappy or not, I think he was good yesterday, he had defensive tasks and he did it well and was a good support for Peiters as a result Chamberlain made just 1 cross in the last 25 minutes with 0 penetrations. Competition is tough for the players in the forward line, Unfortunately Ramadan is not a 1st or 2nd option for Mark Hughes so it is better for him and for Stoke to send him on loan anywhere where he can play regularly as he needs that as a young player in addition to the world cup if we qualified at the end of the season then next season he will be a regular player for Stoke. I dont know everything, may be this is Mark Hughes way to prepare the young lad, so lets wait and see.
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Post by chell_rosey on Aug 20, 2017 12:15:37 GMT
Should we put in a cheeky £2m bid before the window closes? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) He wouldn't get in our side...
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 20, 2017 12:16:27 GMT
Should we put in a cheeky £2m bid before the window closes? He wouldn't get in our side... Yeah he would.
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Post by alster on Aug 20, 2017 12:19:19 GMT
Many fans myself included see a show pony or two in a football team as pretty vital for the entertainment value of the game and by their very nature wide players blow hot and cold. He was good value for Stoke in almost every way but he's gone now and we've seen that he's been replaced at least temporarily with another player who can turn on the style. Rather disappointed by the way with Ramadan's short contribution, what's up with him? I could understand him being unhappy with players being bought in, in front of him but he'll do himself no good by sulking. Sure Arni has good skills but he always thinks about himself before the team, I love to watch some skills and tricks too but it should be of benefit for the team. I dont know if Ramadan is unhappy or not, I think he was good yesterday, he had defensive tasks and he did it well and was a good support for Peiters as a result Chamberlain made just 1 cross in the last 25 minutes with 0 penetrations. Competition is tough for the players in the forward line, Unfortunately Ramadan is not a 1st or 2nd option for Mark Hughes so it is better for him and for Stoke to send him on loan anywhere where he can play regularly as he needs that as a young player in addition to the world cup if we qualified at the end of the season then next season he will be a regular player for Stoke. I dont know everything, may be this is Mark Hughes way to prepare the young lad, so lets wait and see. Agree he needs regular games which looks unlikely this season, I think an English loan might be of benefit foreign loans are a waste of time as they do very little to prepare players for English football which is a bit unique.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 20, 2017 12:22:04 GMT
Jese is as good if not better than arnie and we now look a much stronger team with some much needed upgrades. Once a few players get upto fitness levels expected in the prem then we should be more competitive for longer during games. Our new players also need more playing time together so this could be an exciting season after a very positive start. Pity there's no option to buy ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/aV1vRBg_y2NLG9ubeFHN.gif)
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Post by alster on Aug 20, 2017 12:28:44 GMT
Jese is as good if not better than arnie and we now look a much stronger team with some much needed upgrades. Once a few players get upto fitness levels expected in the prem then we should be more competitive for longer during games. Our new players also need more playing time together so this could be an exciting season after a very positive start. Pity there's no option to buy ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/aV1vRBg_y2NLG9ubeFHN.gif) Yes unfortunately the better he does the less likely we are to be able to sign him.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 20, 2017 12:33:18 GMT
Pity there's no option to buy ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/aV1vRBg_y2NLG9ubeFHN.gif) Yes unfortunately the better he does the less likely we are to be able to sign him. Yep, unless PSG fuck up like Chelsea did with Lukaku. Can't see that being likely though somehow.
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Post by alster on Aug 20, 2017 12:36:24 GMT
Yes unfortunately the better he does the less likely we are to be able to sign him. Yep, unless PSG fuck up like Chelsea did with Lukaku. Can't see that being likely though somehow. I doubt he'll end up back there but a good season will see him beyond our reach I feel.
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Post by Will_75 on Aug 20, 2017 12:42:29 GMT
Yep, unless PSG fuck up like Chelsea did with Lukaku. Can't see that being likely though somehow. I doubt he'll end up back there but a good season will see him beyond our reach I feel. Yep but a good season for him means a good season for us which means we're more likely to attract better players. Win win
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Post by alster on Aug 20, 2017 12:46:53 GMT
I doubt he'll end up back there but a good season will see him beyond our reach I feel. Yep but a good season for him means a good season for us which means we're more likely to attract better players. Win win I'm a lot happier than I was before the game yesterday though I still see a lot of negatives of loans without and option to buy at an agreed price for clubs at our level. Sorry but I still think they're a bit smalltime.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 20, 2017 12:47:35 GMT
Yep, unless PSG fuck up like Chelsea did with Lukaku. Can't see that being likely though somehow. I doubt he'll end up back there but a good season will see him beyond our reach I feel. Most likely the case, unfortunately. If, and its still a big if, he does have a very good season with us it will leave a difficult hole to fill. Given Hughes track record on signing strikers it has to be said that if he is successful and becomes available to us we should be willing to push the boat out to sign him.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 20, 2017 12:49:12 GMT
Always an easy thing to say after a win, but Arnautovic isn't a team man and does/did look a toxic influence and we've done well to get all that money for such an inconsistent player Where is all this toxic influence bollox come from.....he was allegedly well liked by most of the squad wanna he?
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Post by alster on Aug 20, 2017 12:49:21 GMT
I doubt he'll end up back there but a good season will see him beyond our reach I feel. Most likely the case, unfortunately. If, and its still a big if, he does have a very good season with us it will leave a difficult hole to fill. Given Hughes track record on signing strikers it has to be said that if he is successful and becomes available to us we should be willing to push the boat out to sign him. If he has a very successful season I doubt that money will be the biggest factor that stops us signing him.
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Post by Will_75 on Aug 20, 2017 12:50:06 GMT
You can't honestly mean that. Yesterday maybe, overall I doubt it. That's exactly what I meant but surely that must have got you thinking? Jese did everything and more of what Shaq does. Moting is completely different and a good different. He offers an easy out ball with his aerial ability and will take on a man when it's on the deck. He's also much better defensively. What it did make me think though is how a 4231 with this lot could be. Moting Shaq Jese It's pretty much got everything. You know, it's almost like our incompetent and useless senior management have successfully shipped out the deadwood and the troublemakers, improved both the first team and the squad, and not broken the bank in the process.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2017 12:52:48 GMT
That's exactly what I meant but surely that must have got you thinking? Jese did everything and more of what Shaq does. Moting is completely different and a good different. He offers an easy out ball with his aerial ability and will take on a man when it's on the deck. He's also much better defensively. What it did make me think though is how a 4231 with this lot could be. Moting Shaq Jese It's pretty much got everything. You know, it's almost like our incompetent and useless senior management have successfully shipped out the deadwood and the troublemakers, improved both the first team and the squad, and not broken the bank in the process. Not quite. Let's not try and make out like we wanted to sell Arnie.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 20, 2017 12:54:40 GMT
Most likely the case, unfortunately. If, and its still a big if, he does have a very good season with us it will leave a difficult hole to fill. Given Hughes track record on signing strikers it has to be said that if he is successful and becomes available to us we should be willing to push the boat out to sign him. If he has a very successful season I doubt that money will be the biggest factor that stops us signing him. Yep.......precisely why I wrote " if...... he becomes available to us " ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) His personal agenda will be a key component in any possible transfer.
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Post by alster on Aug 20, 2017 12:56:59 GMT
If he has a very successful season I doubt that money will be the biggest factor that stops us signing him. Yep.......precisely why I wrote " if...... he becomes available to us " ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) His personal agenda will be a key component in any possible transfer. Yes to satisfy that the club would have to have a season beyond our wildest dreams.
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