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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2017 10:12:34 GMT
Any time. If we pay a record fee for him we're mental. I don't know why you're getting so much stick here bayern, although maybe it's because you look on the dark side of life more often than not! I think you're right to dig this up and flag it up, even if ultimately supporters can't control what happens with regards to who or what we bring in through the door. It adds to the debate, which is what we are here for. Indeed. And I do love pissing on people's chips. 😂 But as I've said when I first saw his name I was genuinely excited but the truth is iffy. If we are interested it's about what the deal is and where he's going to be used. Relatively cheap and Bojan replacement would seem ok.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Aug 13, 2017 10:14:26 GMT
That kind of rumour cheers me up after a defeat. Thats all it is though a rumour like so many we here. I don.t think there.s enough time anyway to get any business done now the way our transfer team perform I.E. Bruno.
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Post by theteacher on Aug 13, 2017 10:15:05 GMT
Could it be that we move two attacking players on before the end of the transfer window (Joselu, Bojan or even Crouch) and bring two in with Jesé being one of the two? The other would need to be a number 9 who could lead the line?
What would he cost us if PSG are looking to move him on? They were offering a two-year loan according to the reports - a performance related deal (games, league place, sell-on clause) with a lowish transfer fee as they are not a club desperate for a transfer fee for their next signing?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 10:15:38 GMT
I don't know why you're getting so much stick here bayern, although maybe it's because you look on the dark side of life more often than not! I think you're right to dig this up and flag it up, even if ultimately supporters can't control what happens with regards to who or what we bring in through the door. It adds to the debate, which is what we are here for. Indeed. And I do love pissing on people's chips. 😂 But as I've said when I first saw his name I was genuinely excited but the truth is iffy. If we are interested it's about what the deal is and where he's going to be used. Relatively cheap and Bojan replacement would seem ok. I think you've called it right. Quality player with bags of natural ability, suspect recent post injury form, suspect character off the pitch (by all accounts) and one to definitely take a gamble on at the right price.
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 13, 2017 10:22:31 GMT
Bojan Mackey name change imminent? March has already nicknamed him Jessie.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 13, 2017 10:24:27 GMT
Bojan Mackey name change imminent? March has already nicknamed him Jessie. I wouldn't change my name for anyone, let alone this lightweight, unwanted tramp.
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 13, 2017 10:26:31 GMT
Bojan Mackey name change imminent? March has already nicknamed him Jessie. I wouldn't change my name for anyone, let alone this lightweight, unwanted tramp. I was thinking more of an insertion*.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 13, 2017 11:04:21 GMT
Given up looking at silly tranfer values. I am in the fortunate position of knowing bugger all about him. What I do know is tha football is a team game, exceptional players will be outstanding in ny team. Normal players rely on being in a team where players,formation and tactics suit them.
We can speculate as much as we like but will only find out when he is on the pitch in a Stoke shirt. We cannot afford "certainties" so every transfer is a gamble.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 11:17:10 GMT
Hmm, mixed on this one.
Pros - quick, is a 'name', will certainly add something to the frontline, and doesn't have too bad a scoring record from playing out wide. Can play on the right as well as the left. A 3 of Choupo, Rodriguez and Shaq (preferably behind a striker) could be very fluid and creative.
Cons - would cost a pretty penny, especially in wages, for what would be quite a gamble. There's still a lot to his game that is far from being the finished article and he has had a serious injury. Also comes with a reputation as not being a team player and as a disruptive ego (although we should take media reports with a certain pinch of salt).
I guess it depends on what he costs, who we see him replacing, and whether his signing would be at the expense of players we need for more pressing positions.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 13, 2017 11:22:44 GMT
Who? Never heard of him, is he any good?
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Post by miggoscfc on Aug 13, 2017 11:56:31 GMT
We've just bought a winger, we've got plenty of 10s. He's not a prolific striker. What's the point? Llorente, Benteke or Josh King. I'd still be breaking the bank for Benteke. Proven goals season after season. If palace can afford him why can't we? Remind me why any of the above players would want to leave to join stoke or why there clubs would let them leave ?
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Post by hanibal7 on Aug 13, 2017 12:00:07 GMT
We've just bought a winger, we've got plenty of 10s. He's not a prolific striker. What's the point? Llorente, Benteke or Josh King. I'd still be breaking the bank for Benteke. Proven goals season after season. If palace can afford him why can't we? Remind me why any of the above players would want to leave to join stoke or why there clubs would let them leave ? Cuckoo land mate
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 13, 2017 12:01:24 GMT
I take the rush to talk this guy up tells me all I need to know.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Aug 13, 2017 12:02:14 GMT
We've just bought a winger, we've got plenty of 10s. He's not a prolific striker. What's the point? Llorente, Benteke or Josh King. I'd still be breaking the bank for Benteke. Proven goals season after season. If palace can afford him why can't we? Remind me why any of the above players would want to leave to join stoke or why there clubs would let them leave ? £££
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 13, 2017 12:07:10 GMT
This smells another Berahino to me so I'd say no! Spend the money wiser, and on something we need/lack in our team!
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Post by miggoscfc on Aug 13, 2017 12:13:21 GMT
Remind me why any of the above players would want to leave to join stoke or why there clubs would let them leave ? £££ Not a chance all of them likely to be top or close to top earner already. Benteke cost what 17m last year ? And after a great season we would have to pay 30m at the very least probably more if they use Lukaku as a bench Mark. But keep dreaming you're in for a big disappointment setting your standards that high.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 13, 2017 12:13:49 GMT
Anybody want to have a crack at fitting him into a starting XI that includes Choupo, Shaqiri and three at the back?
I can't remotely see how you could do it without going to a flat back four.
But that then means losing one of Bruno, Zouma or Ryan to accomadate him?
🤔
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2017 12:14:52 GMT
Anybody want to have a crack at fitting him into a starting XI that includes Choupo, Shaqiri and three at the back? I can't remotely see how you could do it without going to a flat back four. But that then means losing one of Bruno, Zouma or Ryan to accomadate him? 🤔 Moting to play up front?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 13, 2017 12:19:59 GMT
Anybody want to have a crack at fitting him into a starting XI that includes Choupo, Shaqiri and three at the back? I can't remotely see how you could do it without going to a flat back four. But that then means losing one of Bruno, Zouma or Ryan to accomadate him? 🤔 Moting to play up front? It's what he'd probably end up trying isn't it? Very much doubt that that would have been his original plan when he signed him though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2017 12:21:38 GMT
It's what he'd probably end up trying isn't it? Very much doubt that that would have been his original plan when he signed him though. When has that ever stopped Yozzer?
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 13, 2017 12:22:58 GMT
I've heard of this bloke (only due to playing FM though) and if he is another inside forward/No.10 type, why the fuck are we messing around even looking at him? We've got Eric Choupo, Shaq, Ramadan, Bojan and then Verlinden coming through. IMO we'd also be better using Berahino in this position rather than expecting him to lead the line, which he clearly can't do.
In short, we don't need him.
What we do need, more than anything else, is a really good, mobile, line-leading striker with a bit of physical presence. The team won't function properly until we get one.
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 13, 2017 12:26:08 GMT
Before he signs: "hmmm, maybe, duno, mmm"
When he signs: "FUCK YEAH"
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Post by miggoscfc on Aug 13, 2017 12:38:18 GMT
If he signs and one of Bojan, Adam, Afellay or even Ireland leaves he's improved the squad.
He's not a striker and I'd worry if that is where Hughes is thinking of playing him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 12:39:52 GMT
He does seem to have some pace
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 13, 2017 12:42:37 GMT
If he signs and one of Bojan, Adam, Afellay or even Ireland leaves he's improved the squad. He's not a striker and I'd worry if that is where Hughes is thinking of playing him. Thierry henry wasnt when wenger signed him 😉
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 12:44:11 GMT
Anybody want to have a crack at fitting him into a starting XI that includes Choupo, Shaqiri and three at the back? I can't remotely see how you could do it without going to a flat back four. But that then means losing one of Bruno, Zouma or Ryan to accomadate him? 🤔 If it was 3 at the back, then it would be Jesé - Choupo - Shaq as a front 3? As you say, if the 3 of them started, I'd rather we went back to 4-2-3-1 and have a target man ahead of them.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 13, 2017 12:53:31 GMT
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Post by Gods on Aug 13, 2017 12:54:37 GMT
Must admit I've never heard of him but let's get him in , we need to try something.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2017 12:55:50 GMT
Still just seem to be quoting that original Italian source. Probably best to wait for anything new from a good source in France or Spain before being convinced it's a go-er.
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Post by datguy on Aug 13, 2017 12:56:36 GMT
The fact he's chosen Stoke over Fiorentina* already has me excited.
*Apparently.
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