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Post by malteser68 on Aug 13, 2017 9:00:34 GMT
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Post by chell_rosey on Aug 13, 2017 9:00:44 GMT
Just to be positive? Why happy clap? The reality with Jese is that on the face he's exactly like Bojan was before we signed him but he's already got the ACL. He'd be a gamble. One worth taking if the fee is right but anything north of 10m for him would seem ott. There's a difference between being positive and happy clapping, as you call it. You are well known as one of the most negative posters on here. Regarding Jese, yes he would be a gamble, just like every other signing we could make. Thing is, the folk that constantly moan about moaners...there's this irony thing happening.... 😁
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 13, 2017 9:01:29 GMT
James ??
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 13, 2017 9:01:40 GMT
Without doubt a talented player, but right now I had hoped we could go for someone to lead the line on their own! Jese isn't big nor strong enough to do this and do we really need another Bojan type of player? I like to see us bring good players in, but could we please try to bring players in that would fit the way we play first of all. I don't believe for a minute he will solve our goalscoring problems!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2017 9:02:11 GMT
Interesting one His recent struggles don't sound too promising but he's certainly worth a gamble at the right price. What the right price is these days I don't know. I don't think we'll be getting him for less than £20m in today's world though will we? I think an important factor in this is as well, is the overall impact of signing somebody like Jese would have. My initial reaction and seemingly most others on here was 'Wow' and you can guarantee that it will be an eye opener for the neutral too. With Arnie's comments, and the recent media coverage about our ambition, it could go a good way to fixing the some of the negative feeling towards the club from the outside. I'm not saying that this is the reason to sign him; we have to be confident that he can contribute first and foremost, but if ever a club was in need of a 'statement' then it's us right now. It would show the outside world (and prospective new signings) that we aren't just shutting up shop. He's done nothing though and is living on his rep from his Madrid days when he had a fully functioning knee. I'm struggling to see that he's worth more than 10m. And he seems more damaged than Bojan when we signed him. And he was always a gamble that ultimately won't have paid off. For cheap he seems ok. But the questions over him seem massive.
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Aug 13, 2017 9:03:01 GMT
If we have spent more than £10mil on him I will be very disappointed
A front line of
Shaqiri - Choupo - Jese
could work but I'm not convinced
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 13, 2017 9:03:17 GMT
Seemed to start from the left wing for Las Palmas last season. Still looks lively though! thanks for that slice of misery.
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Post by s7oke on Aug 13, 2017 9:03:46 GMT
I agree with what you've said, but for once, just once, a bit of positive reaction on here from certain posters would be nice. Just to be positive? Why happy clap? The reality with Jese is that on the face he's exactly like Bojan was before we signed him but he's already got the ACL. He'd be a gamble. One worth taking if the fee is right but anything north of 10m for him would seem ott. I think you are right Bayern
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Post by baystokie on Aug 13, 2017 9:04:11 GMT
His record is so so. Biggish name but not one to set the pulses racing when you look at his recent record? D you really think that someone with a good 'recent record' is going to be readily available? His current club would be keeping him?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2017 9:04:26 GMT
thanks for that slice of misery. Any time. If we pay a record fee for him we're mental.
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 13, 2017 9:06:11 GMT
Interesting one His recent struggles don't sound too promising but he's certainly worth a gamble at the right price. What the right price is these days I don't know. I don't think we'll be getting him for less than £20m in today's world though will we? I think an important factor in this is as well, is the overall impact of signing somebody like Jese would have. My initial reaction and seemingly most others on here was 'Wow' and you can guarantee that it will be an eye opener for the neutral too. With Arnie's comments, and the recent media coverage about our ambition, it could go a good way to fixing the some of the negative feeling towards the club from the outside. I'm not saying that this is the reason to sign him; we have to be confident that he can contribute first and foremost, but if ever a club was in need of a 'statement' then it's us right now. It would show the outside world (and prospective new signings) that we aren't just shutting up shop. He's done nothing though and is living on his rep from his Madrid days when he had a fully functioning knee. I'm struggling to see that he's worth more than 10m. And he seems more damaged than Bojan when we signed him. And he was always a gamble that ultimately won't have paid off. For cheap he seems ok. But the questions over him seem massive. Maybe so mate, you probably know more about him than me. I just refuse to get hung up on prices these days (we're talking about Joe Allen as a potential £25m player). I reckon I'm worth £10m in today's market, and I'm out of breath after a big shit 😁
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2017 9:07:40 GMT
His record is so so. Biggish name but not one to set the pulses racing when you look at his recent record? D you really think that someone with a good 'recent record' is going to be readily available? His current club would be keeping him? It's almost like you have to spend money...... So we just have to buy cast offs? Nah. West Ham can manage it. Bournemouth can manage it. Southampton can manage it. I don't see why we couldn't? For the right price he seems worth the gamble but that price needs to be low.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Aug 13, 2017 9:08:25 GMT
Just to be positive? Why happy clap? The reality with Jese is that on the face he's exactly like Bojan was before we signed him but he's already got the ACL. He'd be a gamble. One worth taking if the fee is right but anything north of 10m for him would seem ott. I think you are right Bayern Please, don't encourage him....😀
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2017 9:09:58 GMT
He's done nothing though and is living on his rep from his Madrid days when he had a fully functioning knee. I'm struggling to see that he's worth more than 10m. And he seems more damaged than Bojan when we signed him. And he was always a gamble that ultimately won't have paid off. For cheap he seems ok. But the questions over him seem massive. Maybe so mate, you probably know more about him than me. I just refuse to get hung up on prices these days (we're talking about Joe Allen as a potential £25m player). I reckon I'm worth £10m in today's market, and I'm out of breath after a big shit 😁 I'll be honest, I thought he was still at Madrid and doing stuff. That's why I was excited! 😂 He just seems to have fallen spectacularly from where he was. And very true re the fees.
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Post by s7oke on Aug 13, 2017 9:12:03 GMT
I think you are right Bayern Please, don't encourage him....😀 😂😂😂
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Post by jeycov on Aug 13, 2017 9:12:34 GMT
He's done nothing though and is living on his rep from his Madrid days when he had a fully functioning knee. I'm struggling to see that he's worth more than 10m. And he seems more damaged than Bojan when we signed him. And he was always a gamble that ultimately won't have paid off. For cheap he seems ok. But the questions over him seem massive. Maybe so mate, you probably know more about him than me. I just refuse to get hung up on prices these days (we're talking about Joe Allen as a potential £25m player). I reckon I'm worth £10m in today's market, and I'm out of breath after a big shit 😁 Bojan was a gamble, Hughes got him back on track, his injury has damaged his confidence.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 13, 2017 9:12:55 GMT
It'd be nice to scout some more players who are on their way up, like Sobhi and Tymon. I thought that was the plan when Carto and then Sparky came in?
That's what Southampton do and it's what a few of our rivals are doing as well with the likes of Propper and Richarlison.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 9:18:56 GMT
Whats wrong with giving Joselu a few starts before we decide ?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2017 9:27:41 GMT
Interestingly (or not!), they were team-mates at Madrid - but doesn't look like they will be here (if he comes)
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Post by ashleyscfc on Aug 13, 2017 9:30:07 GMT
We've just bought a winger, we've got plenty of 10s. He's not a prolific striker. What's the point?
Llorente, Benteke or Josh King.
I'd still be breaking the bank for Benteke. Proven goals season after season. If palace can afford him why can't we?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2017 9:50:16 GMT
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Aug 13, 2017 9:51:40 GMT
I just knew before I opened this thread that there'd be people turning their nose up at Jesé Rodrigues. He's pretty much as good a player as we could realistically sign. Have a look at his recent record. It's crap! When I read his name I was excited but it'd be more dogs home than rock the city. So is Joselu and folk seem to think he's the answer
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 13, 2017 9:58:18 GMT
You would expect PSG would want to recover most of what they paid for him which seems way over the top.Don't worry though about the fee our top notch much lauded negotiating team will deliver. Well PSG don't want or even need him, Las Palmas fecked him off so must be off somewhere. What's wrong with a loan (we can afford his wages) with an option to buy, although that might confuse TS and team? Play Choupo up front and him out wide with Shaq...send Saido out on loan
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 13, 2017 9:58:38 GMT
Interestingly (or not!), they were team-mates at Madrid - but doesn't look like they will be here (if he comes) You cant imagine Jose would sell the club to Jese though given the way he's been treated in his almost 2 years at the club.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2017 10:00:31 GMT
Interestingly (or not!), they were team-mates at Madrid - but doesn't look like they will be here (if he comes) You cant imagine Jose would sell the club to Jese though given the way he's been treated in his almost 2 years at the club. Yep, only natural that he wouldn't have glowing things to say. Much the same way that the only person that Lemina knew here wouldn't either!
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Post by badger on Aug 13, 2017 10:04:12 GMT
He joined PSG this time last year for €25m.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 13, 2017 10:05:24 GMT
Well I was quite excited when I first saw this thread but the more you read the more you ask yourself why? A bit like our interest in Delph it seems to pose more questions than it does answers. A bloke who can play left wing when we have a formation that doesnt really use one and if it did then we've Chupo-Motting, Ramandan, Verlinden and even N'Goy. At number 10 we've Shaq and Bojan (not that I'd want to see it but Allen also). There is also a question mark over whether we'd need a number 10 or a striker partner for Berahino which Jese wouldn't be.
Is our recruitment strategy lets see whose available then worry about how to put it together later?
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Post by crownmeking on Aug 13, 2017 10:06:12 GMT
thanks for that slice of misery. Any time. If we pay a record fee for him we're mental. I can't argue with you on that. He is worth upto 10 million, but he is no club record signing... Dave mentioned we are looking at a big name striker who would break the record fee, this guy doesn't fit that. I would still be happy to have him here though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 10:06:22 GMT
thanks for that slice of misery. Any time. If we pay a record fee for him we're mental. I don't know why you're getting so much stick here bayern, although maybe it's because you look on the dark side of life more often than not! I think you're right to dig this up and flag it up, even if ultimately supporters can't control what happens with regards to who or what we bring in through the door. It adds to the debate, which is what we are here for.
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Post by gogogadget on Aug 13, 2017 10:06:46 GMT
People say we need more pace in the team, well this lad has plenty of it. Agree with you there mate. He's electric.
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