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Post by rambo61 on Aug 4, 2017 19:11:59 GMT
Averaged 41000 last season. How can the ground be so empty just through relegation. Surely you support the team not the "premiere "league!! What would the bet 365 be like if we got relegated???
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Post by Lesalanos on Aug 4, 2017 19:12:43 GMT
14000 and a better atmosphere.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 4, 2017 19:17:25 GMT
It'd be fucking wank if we got relegated, I hate people dressing up relegation as anything other than the actual reality; that it would be a sickening disaster.
As for Sunderland... I hate that fucking club, I'd love it if they got relegated again.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 4, 2017 19:22:52 GMT
I don't know what's worse, the fact that Sunderland have had all summer to replace the rest of the seats & haven't bothered, or that disgusting fucking kit they're wearing. Thank fuck we're not still with Adidas or that's what we'd be wearing! PS : I'm not much for the font they've used for the lettering in the seats.  |
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Post by rawli on Aug 4, 2017 19:22:53 GMT
My youngest is called Johnnie and he only started with his season ticket last season. He's a definite candidate for dropping us if we get relegated.
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Post by lagwafis on Aug 4, 2017 19:23:44 GMT
They went from 46k in 2002 to 27k in 2004 after one of their previous relegations. Not too dissimilar to Leeds when they went from 39k in the Premiership to 22k in the Championship.
Hopefully it won't happen but it'd be interesting to see how our crowds react should we go down (given we suddenly found over 10k after promotion)
On a different note, I'm glad we replaced our seats before they turned pastel pink!
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Post by chad on Aug 4, 2017 19:24:17 GMT
Fuck me. That strips awful
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 4, 2017 19:25:08 GMT
Save of the season gone to Carson
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 19:26:50 GMT
Save of the season gone to Carson Only 30 minutes into it though to be fair.... |
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Post by bigdev on Aug 4, 2017 19:29:49 GMT
Grabs and Vaughan will do well this season
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Post by burge2u on Aug 4, 2017 19:59:51 GMT
It looks like Sunderland have considerably reduced the size of their pitch.
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Post by 3putts on Aug 4, 2017 20:22:41 GMT
i never quite understood how sunderland went from 20,000 in div2 to over 40,000 in div1 I allways thought they were a similar supported club such as us? maybe they have a lot of schools in Wearside lol. hope we never go down but if we do expect a half empty stadium as the norm.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 20:24:24 GMT
Just a shade under 30,000. Very good crowd to be fair....
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Post by Gordon Marshall on Aug 4, 2017 20:24:30 GMT
Has the attendance been anounced?
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 4, 2017 20:25:57 GMT
Just a shade under 30,000. Very good crowd to be fair.... It's amazing that they had the crowds they did last year, given what a basket-case of a club they've been for the last few years. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 20:28:46 GMT
Has the attendance been anounced? 29,578 |
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Post by Gordon Marshall on Aug 4, 2017 20:32:13 GMT
Has the attendance been anounced? 29,578 Not bad. Only Newcastle managed to get similar crowds to what they got in the Premier last season. Villa and Leeds similar first season down from the top flight |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 4, 2017 20:42:50 GMT
I enjoyed the game , like Grayson he will do ok there despite having no money . Mackems are good fans when we go down the premiershits will flee in their droves and 15000 will soon be a good crowd again .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 20:45:52 GMT
I enjoyed the game , like Grayson he will do ok there despite having no money . Mackems are good fans when we go down the premiershits will flee in their droves and 15000 will soon be a good crowd again . I agree, know a few Mackems and they are all decent generous people |
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Post by walrus on Aug 4, 2017 21:11:02 GMT
Catchment area size may be a factor. Newcastle and Sunderland basically dominate in terms of fanbase from Darlington all the way up to Berwick. For context, if you put Stoke at the centre of an area of comparable size it would stretch south as far as Warwick and north as far as Blackburn. If more fans have a significant journey to get to the match, more are likely not to bother when the going's not good.
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Post by haway on Aug 4, 2017 21:21:18 GMT
We were the better team.
Actually enjoyed going to a game and watch us play some football.
We need more players though, it's clear Grayson doesn't rate the squad players (zero subs!)
Overall, I'm quite pleased with that. Especially since I watched Celtic beat us 5-0 just 6 days ago...
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Aug 4, 2017 21:21:49 GMT
I think it depends on the circumstances of relegation. Sunderland's relegation was a slow lingering death which had been coming for 5 or 6 years now. There's a lot of apathy and anger at the way the club's being run, there seems to be a lot of bad apples in the dressing room and a lot of fans have voted with their feet in protest I think. A bit like with us in the late 80s and 90s where there was an attitude of hopelessness and it was reflected in the attendances.
I think our attendances would hold in the low 20,000s for a season or two before levelling out in the high teens if we didn't return quickly and we ended up back in Championship mid table. I don't think we'd go back to the low teens again unless we had problems off the pitch and became a crisis club.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Aug 4, 2017 21:32:05 GMT
Has the attendance been anounced? 29,578 Very good crowd actually given the circumstances and the apathy surrounding the club. The crowd looked so bad because their ground is too big for them, and should serve as a warning to those wanting us to further expand our ground in the coming years. When the SOL first opened I think the capacity was around 39,000 which was quickly expanded to around 42,000 when they quickly won promotion and had a very good team. They settled straight in to the Premier League and looked a club on the up with a couple of top 10 finishes and Kevin Philips banging the goals in. They then took the decision to expand to 48,000 (possibly as a statement of intent to Newcastle who were already at 52,000) and that was the step too far. They did initially fill it and do so on occasions still but their natural fan base isn't big enough to sustain that size of crowd on a weekly basis when the club is having a bog standard season. So subsequently the previously excellent atmosphere at the SOL suffered with regular swathes of empty seats even when the crowd is over 40k and they get lots of mocking for their crowds despite their figures actually being one of the best outside of the usual top clubs. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 4, 2017 21:34:55 GMT
Has the attendance been anounced? 29,578 More than double what we probably averaged in the promotion season when we were lucky get 14,000. Especially first half of the season. |
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Post by walrus on Aug 4, 2017 21:41:13 GMT
More than double what we probably averaged in the promotion season when we were lucky get 14,000. Especially first half of the season. We averaged just shy of 17,000 that year. But a few of the earlier home games were around the 11-13k mark, and without the near sellouts at the end of the season the average would've been a fair bit lower. Our average hasn't actually been under 14,000 since 2001/02 and has always been over 26,000 (IE near enough full every game) since promotion. european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/stkc.htm - This site has all the figures, and also a ranking of where our attendances were in the context of other clubs'. Last season we were the eighteenth best supported club in the country. Between 1961 and 1964 we went from being the 58th best supported club to the eighth (Matthews effect). |
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 4, 2017 21:45:27 GMT
The one club that always amazes me is Norwich 28 thousand in the premier
28 thousand in the championship
28 thousand when they dropped to div one
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Post by walrus on Aug 4, 2017 21:58:06 GMT
The one club that always amazes me is Norwich 28 thousand in the premier 28 thousand in the championship 28 thousand when they dropped to div one No other league club within 45 miles and a regional population very much focused on the city of Norwich itself (unlike the North East where there are several other big towns and cities other than Newcastle and Sunderland). Within 45 miles from Stoke (as the crow flies) you have 27 league clubs: Manchester United Manchester City Liverpool Everton Huddersfield West Brom Villa Birmingham Wolves Derby Sheffield United Sheffield Wednesday Notts Forest Burton Barnsley Bolton Rotherham Shrewsbury Walsall Bury Rochdale Oldham Wigan Chesterfield Notts County Crewe Port Vale * Edited to include Derby and Walsall who I missed first time round. |
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Post by turtlefox on Aug 4, 2017 22:50:35 GMT
The one club that always amazes me is Norwich 28 thousand in the premier 28 thousand in the championship 28 thousand when they dropped to div one No other league club within 45 miles and a regional population very much focused on the city of Norwich itself (unlike the North East where there are several other big towns and cities other than Newcastle and Sunderland). Within 45 miles from Stoke (as the crow flies) you have 25 league clubs: Manchester United Manchester City Liverpool Everton Huddersfield West Brom Villa Birmingham Wolves Sheffield United Sheffield Wednesday Notts Forest Burton Barnsley Bolton Rotherham Shrewsbury Bury Rochdale Oldham Wigan Chesterfield Notts County Crewe Port Vale Walsall and Derby too. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 4, 2017 22:51:49 GMT
The one club that always amazes me is Norwich 28 thousand in the premier 28 thousand in the championship 28 thousand when they dropped to div one Remember asking them that question in a pub there in our promotion year the answer was there is fuck all else to d0 for 100 miles and we won't watch Ipswich whatever , having said that no time for people who club hop , having made my choice I'm stuck with Stoke for life with some admiration of other teams |
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Post by bhp on Aug 4, 2017 23:29:12 GMT
It'd be fucking wank if we got relegated, I hate people dressing up relegation as anything other than the actual reality; that it would be a sickening disaster. As for Sunderland... I hate that fucking club, I'd love it if they got relegated again. Wouldn't be great obviously, wouldn't be the be all and end all either. All it will mean for me as a fan is forking out a small fortune more regularly because of the more than decent away games. |
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