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Post by crownmeking on Aug 10, 2017 8:59:15 GMT
Fans will turn imo if he's sold and rightly so You mean the same fans who have slated him on here last season? You'd think they'd be happy to see him go.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Aug 10, 2017 8:59:19 GMT
I can't see this happening. I guess it's the murky world of player contracts. Maybe the club are using this to put a little pressure on Ryan to accept their terms, but I doubt even that.
I believe Ryan is still very much part of MH's plans. Just read an article where MH stated he wanted to plat 3-4-2-1 with Ryan part of his "bulldozing" back 3.
Remember this guy sells stuff to the Sun and The Mirror. He ain't no Mother Teresa and his press utterings are probably about as reliable as those of The Donald. It seems to me that he is the only one surmising (guessing?) that Burnley "must have been given some encouragement."
Transfer window paper talk on a slow news day.
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Post by burge2u on Aug 10, 2017 8:59:29 GMT
Port Vale, Brazil, Amiens, LA Galaxy, Stoke City, Aberdeen, Mk Dons.. could be one of those. I think that there might be a bit of a clue in your answer,........ and I hope that you are right.
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Post by werrington on Aug 10, 2017 8:59:43 GMT
Why mate ? Should we just keep playing a player who has been hopelessly out of form and refuse a £10m+ offer Along with Whelan and Fuller he's been one of our BEST EVER signings but his shelf life is short People wanted changed on here and now they are moaning their bollocks off it's happening Hopelessly out of form?Yes he's had some bad games but who didn't last season?Big big mistake to sell imo( If so) Fair dos wrong choice of words but you get my drift I love Ryan he's a legend and if he stays great but if he's sold for £10m+ I won't have a problem with it ...it's all misty eyed stuff
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 10, 2017 8:59:48 GMT
Blah blah blah, net spend, blah blah blah squad implosion, blah blah blah, relegation by October, blah blah blah gravity crocodile. Do you not have any new material? I'm actually embarrassed for you. Don't worry I'm not . Truth hurts hey no matter how many times you deny it . arnie ,walters , bardsley , Whelan , and posibly shawcross with free teamfer replacements and a reserve hull left back and a loan for, Chelsea is a debacle whatever you Call it , still time but pressure very much on . Blah blah blah.
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 10, 2017 9:00:00 GMT
We don't know what his demands are do we? I love Ryan, but if he is asking stupid money then I can understand the club not just handing it to him. H I thought his Mrs said he'd not been offered a contract? She also said slp were talking bollocks the last time they posted something about him
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Post by RAF on Aug 10, 2017 9:00:06 GMT
We don't know what his demands are do we? I love Ryan, but if he is asking stupid money then I can understand the club not just handing it to him. H To be fair RAF, if he is asking "stupid money" do you really see Burnley as a likely destination. I thought they operated the lowest wages in the league. Maybe it's the length of the contract he is asking for is the problem then? H
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 10, 2017 9:00:09 GMT
You don't think the Hughes has the final say on whether his captain and longest serving player gets sold? No I don't. The same as he won't decide how much he gets paid and for how long. If a bit has been submitted and it's a big if then it's Hughes' job to manage the player and ensure he remains focussed then 1 of 2 things will happen. Bid will be accepted and Hughes will be notified Or Ryan will take the decision into his own hands and request a transfer. I'm sure Hughes will be involved in the decision. He will have been asked how much he sees Ryan as being a significant part of his plans and asked would he be happy to replace him if a certain fee could be achieved for him. He wouldn't be sold for £10 million if Hughes was intending on building his defence around him and/or keeping him as team captain for the next four years.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 10, 2017 9:00:25 GMT
To be fair RAF, if he is asking "stupid money" do you really see Burnley as a likely destination. I thought they operated the lowest wages in the league. Do you think Jon "Tory Boy" Walters has left for less money with a year left on his contract? Doubt it. Totally different scenario. Walters wasn't our highest paid player.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 9:01:00 GMT
I'd be very sad to see him go, Stokie legend and he has consistently been a rock at the back and our best player in the Premier League. That said, he hasn't looked the same over the last season or so, still a decent age for a CB - he should have another 3 or 4 years in him but perhaps cashing in now is the right thing to do if we are confident we have a replacement for him and we have concerns over his long term fitness.
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Post by huuuuuth on Aug 10, 2017 9:01:33 GMT
To be fair RAF, if he is asking "stupid money" do you really see Burnley as a likely destination. I thought they operated the lowest wages in the league. Do you think Jon "Tory Boy" Walters has left for less money with a year left on his contract? Doubt it. Possibly. Less money per week, but a longer term contract probably means more money overall
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 10, 2017 9:02:04 GMT
Hopelessly out of form?Yes he's had some bad games but who didn't last season?Big big mistake to sell imo( If so) Fair dos wrong choice of words but you get my drift I love Ryan he's a legend and if he stays great but if he's sold for £10m+ I won't have a problem with it ...it's all misty eyed stuff Fair enough mate but for me he has plenty to offer us in the coming years
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Post by march4 on Aug 10, 2017 9:02:08 GMT
If we were aiming to be relegated what more could you do than keep Hughes and get rid of Ryan, Arnie, SJW and Whelan.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Aug 10, 2017 9:03:52 GMT
If we were aiming to be relegated what more could you do than keep Hughes and get rid of Ryan, Arnie, SJW and Whelan. Sack Hughes and bring in Johan Boskamp??
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 10, 2017 9:04:05 GMT
Ryan was our best player against Leipzig, sign him up, we'll need him!
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Post by alster on Aug 10, 2017 9:04:43 GMT
Do you think Jon "Tory Boy" Walters has left for less money with a year left on his contract? Doubt it. Totally different scenario. Walters wasn't our highest paid player. I actually know someone who knows Jon so I should be able to find out eventually if he took a pay cut or not. I'll not bother him now because I'm worried about his health. Only seen him once this year and he looked awful. It just doesn't strike me as something he would do.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 10, 2017 9:06:03 GMT
To be fair RAF, if he is asking "stupid money" do you really see Burnley as a likely destination. I thought they operated the lowest wages in the league. Maybe it's the length of the contract he is asking for is the problem then? H Given the obvious worries about his long term fitness, that would make some sense. I still can´t see him ending up at Burnley though. Would they really want to offer what would be for them a pretty big contract to player with Ryan´s history of back problems? It would be one hell of a gamble for a club who seem to be pretty risk averse.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 10, 2017 9:06:22 GMT
Do you think Jon "Tory Boy" Walters has left for less money with a year left on his contract? Doubt it. Totally different scenario. Walters wasn't our highest paid player. So the highest paid player contract term is true then? I'd imagine he'd want to roll that into an extension.
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Post by coupe on Aug 10, 2017 9:07:04 GMT
Why would Hughes accept the bid? If the bid is accepted it will have nothing to do with the manager and will be decision made between CEO and Owner? You don't think the Hughes has the final say on whether his captain and longest serving player gets sold? Well Hughes as already brought in a ready made replacement captain in Fletcher ?.
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Post by RAF on Aug 10, 2017 9:08:15 GMT
Maybe it's the length of the contract he is asking for is the problem then? H Given the obvious worries about his long term fitness, that would make some sense. I still can´t see him ending up at Burnley though. Would they really want to offer what would be for them a pretty big contract to player with Ryan´s history of back problems? It would be one hell of a gamble for a club who seem to be pretty risk averse. I'm hoping it's all bollocks. H
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Post by hanibal7 on Aug 10, 2017 9:08:51 GMT
If there is any truth in the rumour, what about his medical some FIFA manager players on here say his back is wank
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 10, 2017 9:10:24 GMT
The only way I could see it happening is if we got Indi and Gibson.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 10, 2017 9:10:36 GMT
Totally different scenario. Walters wasn't our highest paid player. I actually know someone who knows Jon so I should be able to find out eventually if he took a pay cut or not. I'll not bother him now because I'm worried about his health. Only seen him once this year and he looked awful. It just doesn't strike me as something he would do. I'll save you the trouble. Walters didn't leave for less money but Walters wasn't our highest paid player and his wage with us fell within their structure.
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Post by crownmeking on Aug 10, 2017 9:10:56 GMT
If there is any truth in the rumour, what about his medical some FIFA manager players on here say his back is wank I don't think there is any denying that he has a long term issue with his back?
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Post by blackpoolred on Aug 10, 2017 9:11:33 GMT
I could see him going if Newcastle came in for him and offered him a big signing on fee. Why wouldn't he, after his treatment here last year
The big worry here is that the current setup would be quite happy to let him go for a good price and then not replace him. Hughes is utterly incapable of buying a defender or doing defence in any way shape or form.
At the end of last season, Hughes stated that he had neglected the defence in his term here and that he would be looking to rectify this. If this his him not neglecting defence then I would hate to see him going back to neglecting it. We are in grave danger of not having a viable right-back or 2 viable centre-halves at the end of this window and no back-up or competition in any defensive area - utterly bizarre
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 10, 2017 9:11:50 GMT
Totally different scenario. Walters wasn't our highest paid player. So the highest paid player contract term is true then? I'd imagine he'd want to roll that into an extension. If he does, he won't sign for Burnley until his contract here expires.
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Post by stokie1130 on Aug 10, 2017 9:14:22 GMT
10 million for a player past his best and with a dodgy back, is great business.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Aug 10, 2017 9:17:01 GMT
10 million for a player in his final year, been on a downward slide for the last 18 months...
Fucking TAKE IT! I'll drive him up there as i'm going that way this weekend anyway!
Please note:
Yes he's been a great servant, but nobody can seriously try and deny that he hasn't been on a downward spiral in terms of his form, fitness, and overall defending last season and the back end of the season before? !
I think most fans will think it'll be the be all and end all of us if he goes, it won't be at all.
Obviously if we are going to sell him, i'm presuming Stoke have a replacement lined up (We all know Bruno is signing), does that leave us light? Muniesa going as well? I dont even want to mention Wolly.
We'll see. Maybe it's Burnley trying to test us / Paper talk, if he stays then i'm not going to moan, I dont even know what system we're going to be playing, but if 10 million is true, i'd personally take it.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 10, 2017 9:18:19 GMT
Even better, we can bring Wolly straight in to the middle of a back 3. It'll be like watching Franz Beckenbauer in his pomp.
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Post by alster on Aug 10, 2017 9:18:23 GMT
If there is any truth in the rumour, what about his medical some FIFA manager players on here say his back is wank Other than checking out the surgery he had you have to wonder how much more they can do. The root cause of back problems is very tricky to pin down. I've had x-rays scans the works and they find nothing majorly wrong but my back goes into spasm fairly regularly and immobilises me for days. A couple of years ago it went when I was mowing a neighbours lawn whilst they were away. I was literally screaming in agony that night on the bathroom floor, it felt like something was chewing my spinal chord. Needless to say I don't mow other peoples lawns anymore.
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