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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 18, 2017 17:24:51 GMT
Sobhi is better than him.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 18, 2017 17:25:30 GMT
In England and in Holland. Fucking hell everybody looks good in Holland even Jose Altidore. And Arjen Robben. Either way I think he's a decent player, shame we never gave him a better run out.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 18, 2017 17:26:25 GMT
Fair play. I'll agree to disagree. I can still think of a number of PL target men I'd put above Bony though. Ibrahimovic. Benteke. Lukaku. Llorente. Rondon. Giroud. Diego Costa. Harry Kane. Ibrah, Lukaku, Costa and Kane are not target men in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 17:32:29 GMT
Sobhi is better than him. He's got potential to be better but Chadli would be a cracking signing
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 18, 2017 17:37:43 GMT
If Chadli came he would be a good quality attacking midfield addition. He can play across the pitch and would provide healthy competition to the other attacking midfielders, not necessarily slot straight in for Marko. I would much rather him at 10 than Allen or Imbula or, when fit, Afellay. I would much rather him on the right than anyone other than Shaq (and his exploding calves!).
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 18, 2017 17:39:32 GMT
We're getting rid of Arnie, Walters and most likely Imbula.
I think we could do with a player like Chadli.
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Post by bhp on Jul 18, 2017 18:31:52 GMT
Nacer Chadli? Come on Stoke. We receive £24m for a winger and use a large proportion of that to buy him? Is that as far as they look for players 40 miles down the road? Shocking. We've got a young lad who's exciting and more than good enough to be a regular for us and needs games in order to develop. We all know he's good enough, yes people say he's only had 1 assist in his first season in England and may doubt his end product but from his 17 appearances for us last season, 8 as a starter, 6 from playing in his preferred left wing position and that's where his solitary assist came from. The lad is 20 and the promising thing is, he'll improve if used correctly.
Is investing the Arnautovic fee in a player one year younger than him a wise option? It will no doubt lose us money when he leaves us somewhere down the line. If the future plans are to be 'self sufficient' then we need to look at players no older than 25, just like Arnautovic when we signed him, pick them up for an acceptable fee, give them the opportunity to develop then look to flog them on for near on 10 times the fee we paid for them. Not all of them will work as we've witnessed recently with some our transfers of recent years. Low risk in terms in terms of fee, good age, not older than 25, and that's a decent business model which will at least keep us in the league and make good money on players.
Arnautovic, Sobhi, Butland all picked up for cheap fee's and will yield healthy profits once they leave.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 18, 2017 18:33:13 GMT
He didn't look remotely like the player he did at Swansea. He wasn't as mobile, didn't look as interested, didn't link the play as well, didn't get into good positions. We signed the ghost of him. He was unfit when he came, then we gave him literally nothing to prove his worth. Then people just assume he's wank over very limited time. This is why people said Imbula was the next best thing after his first game for us. Not clever thinking. We gave him a run in the side and he played his way out of it. Never looked like getting fitter, never looked like getting sharper, the Swansea game aside. Given what we were allegedly paying him, if Hughes thought he could benefit the side, he'd have got him in there. It speaks volumes that he was excommunicated.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 18, 2017 18:35:45 GMT
Isn't the consensus that his best games in England have come as a number 10? Oh for God sake. Is there a problem? Yay! A player! We're linked to a player! Yay! Is that better?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 18, 2017 18:36:38 GMT
Nacer Chadli? Come on Stoke. We receive £24m for a winger and use a large proportion of that to buy him? Is that as far as they look for players 40 miles down the road? Shocking. We've got a young lad who's exciting and more than good enough to be a regular for us and needs games in order to develop. We all know he's good enough, yes people say he's only had 1 assist in his first season in England and may doubt his end product but from his 17 appearances for us last season, 8 as a starter, 6 from playing in his preferred left wing position and that's where his solitary assist came from. The lad is 20 and the promising thing is, he'll improve if used correctly. Is investing the Arnautovic fee in a player one year younger than him a wise option? It will no doubt lose us money when he leaves us somewhere down the line. If the future plans are to be 'self sufficient' then we need to look at players no older than 25, just like Arnautovic when we signed him, pick them up for an acceptable fee, give them the opportunity to develop then look to flog them on for near on 10 times the fee we paid for them. Not all of them will work as we've witnessed recently with some our transfers of recent years. Low risk in terms in terms of fee, good age, not older than 25, and that's a decent business model which will at least keep us in the league and make good money on players. Arnautovic, Sobhi, Butland all picked up for cheap fee's and will yield healthy profits once they leave. I'll nail my colours to the Mast Ramadan is no where near ready , and there is no guarantee he ever will be , he has not scored in the premier league and we need at least half a Dozen possibly 10 from that position
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 18, 2017 18:41:43 GMT
Why the fuck are we monitoring , we have know for two weeks about Arnie , its candidly totally pathetic management of the transfer strategy . West ham have made three hostile bids and secured a player under contract, and appear set to sign Hernandez and Hart in the same week, while we have monitored and considered Delph and Indi for three months something is very very wrong in the way we approach our transfer business and has been for years , and if the bury bad news strategy is welcome a on loan centre back for£7m then its a very poor show . Dear me, so because someone says the word 'monitoring' in a tweet you automatically assume that's all we're doing? You're so naive. I'm glad somebody has picked up on this. One thing that pisses me off on here is people having digs at the club because of a shit, generic phrase that's been a staple of transfer stories since the abolition of public hanging in England. It's more annoying than the woman in the Oral-B toothpaste advert.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 19:08:25 GMT
Chadli would be a brilliant signing. Would fill the creative gap left by Arnie, albeit in a different position.
It would also stop Joe Allen being hammered into that said position!
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Post by thehoof on Jul 18, 2017 19:18:53 GMT
Nacer Chadli? Come on Stoke. We receive £24m for a winger and use a large proportion of that to buy him? Is that as far as they look for players 40 miles down the road? Shocking. We've got a young lad who's exciting and more than good enough to be a regular for us and needs games in order to develop. We all know he's good enough, yes people say he's only had 1 assist in his first season in England and may doubt his end product but from his 17 appearances for us last season, 8 as a starter, 6 from playing in his preferred left wing position and that's where his solitary assist came from. The lad is 20 and the promising thing is, he'll improve if used correctly. Is investing the Arnautovic fee in a player one year younger than him a wise option? It will no doubt lose us money when he leaves us somewhere down the line. If the future plans are to be 'self sufficient' then we need to look at players no older than 25, just like Arnautovic when we signed him, pick them up for an acceptable fee, give them the opportunity to develop then look to flog them on for near on 10 times the fee we paid for them. Not all of them will work as we've witnessed recently with some our transfers of recent years. Low risk in terms in terms of fee, good age, not older than 25, and that's a decent business model which will at least keep us in the league and make good money on players. Arnautovic, Sobhi, Butland all picked up for cheap fee's and will yield healthy profits once they leave. I'll nail my colours to the Mast Ramadan is no where near ready , and there is no guarantee he ever will be , he has not scored in the premier league and we need at least half a Dozen possibly 10 from that position Sorry Benji, totally disagree with you. Ramadan would do a decent job in the team as he did in the games he played. In his first two seasons at Stoke Annie was demoted to the bench quite often - a period in which he netted 5 goals, 2 of which were penalties. Ramadan deserves the chance to start - what we need is a right back, a creative mid field player and if we don't get Bruno and Zouma, a centre half.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 18, 2017 19:34:56 GMT
Why does he upset Ramadan? Chadli played played center, left and right for WBA. Maybe he upset Shaq also? He scored 4 of his 5 goals and assisted 2 from center position. Maybe he is a option/replacement for Joe Allen/Bojan? Maybe for all attacking positions? Stats from whoscored.comI always assumed he was a left winger/number 10. fair enough if not. He doesnt start ahead of Shaq on the right. In that case, I don't think there's much point buying an expensive replacement for a position where Bojan is already proven quality. Joe Allen isn't an attacking midfielder. Bojan isn't proven though, his injury made sure of that, in fact he was being used so little he wanted to move, I think it's time to move him on and either buy a direct replacement or someone to play on the right moving shaq inside.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 18, 2017 19:44:59 GMT
Is there a problem? Yay! A player! We're linked to a player! Yay! Is that better? No. No problem, I love reading about number 10's, defensive midfielders and the fact we can only have 4 midfielders on the books... again. What do you want? Honestly, no sniping, no dragging the thread down to the same argument about midfielders, who would you like us to sign?
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Post by stokebloke on Jul 18, 2017 19:53:15 GMT
Good player is Chadli...get it done mark.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 19:57:50 GMT
Hes not going to replace walters arnie or imbula
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Post by neddy on Jul 18, 2017 20:00:31 GMT
Hes not going to replace walters arnie or imbula Replace Joselu? Last I heard still here? Ned
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 18, 2017 20:17:52 GMT
Spoken to my man on the south coast who reckons WBA would see us as they last club they would sell Chadli too indeed he voluntarily made the comment .
stoke will find it very difficult to buy off peer group teams now , they see us very much weakened and as a stand out candidate for the drop and will be very reluctant to change that , stoke need to look abroad or top 6 who wont have the same reservations .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 20:19:44 GMT
Spoken to my man on the south coast who reckons WBA would see us as they last club they would sell Chadli too indeed he voluntarily made the comment . stoke will find it very difficult to buy off peer group teams now , they see us very much weakened and as a stand out candidate for the drop and will be very reluctant to change that , stoke need to look abroad or top 6 who wont have the same reservations . My man on the south coast 😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 18, 2017 20:19:46 GMT
Is there a problem? Yay! A player! We're linked to a player! Yay! Is that better? No. No problem, I love reading about number 10's, defensive midfielders and the fact we can only have 4 midfielders on the books... again. What do you want? Honestly, no sniping, no dragging the thread down to the same argument about midfielders, who would you like us to sign? Sorry, is all the football talk getting in the way? What specifically do you want people to talk about? I want us to sign good players in the right positions, not forever smashing square pegs into round holes. I want us to sign wingers whose best position is actually on the wing, to stop stockpiling box to box midfielders and sign a proper holding midfielder, to actually address the problem positions in the team.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 18, 2017 20:21:38 GMT
Spoken to my man on the south coast who reckons WBA would see us as they last club they would sell Chadli too indeed he voluntarily made the comment . stoke will find it very difficult to buy off peer group teams now , they see us very much weakened and as a stand out candidate for the drop and will be very reluctant to change that , stoke need to look abroad or top 6 who wont have the same reservations . 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 20:22:44 GMT
Can someone please explain to me just how this particular player is going to make us a better football team.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 18, 2017 20:26:54 GMT
Spoken to my man on the south coast who reckons WBA would see us as they last club they would sell Chadli too indeed he voluntarily made the comment . stoke will find it very difficult to buy off peer group teams now , they see us very much weakened and as a stand out candidate for the drop and will be very reluctant to change that , stoke need to look abroad or top 6 who wont have the same reservations . My man on the south coast 😂😂😂😂😂 Shit, how unlucky is that? Imagine having multiple personalities and they're all the same as you.
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 18, 2017 20:28:41 GMT
Spoken to my man on the south coast who reckons WBA would see us as they last club they would sell Chadli too indeed he voluntarily made the comment . stoke will find it very difficult to buy off peer group teams now , they see us very much weakened and as a stand out candidate for the drop and will be very reluctant to change that , stoke need to look abroad or top 6 who wont have the same reservations . My man on the south coast 😂😂😂😂😂 Craig David?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 20:31:00 GMT
Spoken to my man on the south coast who reckons WBA would see us as they last club they would sell Chadli too indeed he voluntarily made the comment . stoke will find it very difficult to buy off peer group teams now , they see us very much weakened and as a stand out candidate for the drop and will be very reluctant to change that , stoke need to look abroad or top 6 who wont have the same reservations . Just when I think you've broken the 'horseshit-o-meter' beyond repair.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 20:33:10 GMT
My man on the south coast 😂😂😂😂😂 Shit, how unlucky is that? Imagine having multiple personalities and they're all the same as you.
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Jul 18, 2017 20:33:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 20:35:41 GMT
Spoken to my man on the south coast who reckons WBA would see us as they last club they would sell Chadli too indeed he voluntarily made the comment . stoke will find it very difficult to buy off peer group teams now , they see us very much weakened and as a stand out candidate for the drop and will be very reluctant to change that , stoke need to look abroad or top 6 who wont have the same reservations . Who is your man on the South Coast Ben?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 18, 2017 20:36:53 GMT
Spoken to my man on the south coast who reckons WBA would see us as they last club they would sell Chadli too indeed he voluntarily made the comment . stoke will find it very difficult to buy off peer group teams now , they see us very much weakened and as a stand out candidate for the drop and will be very reluctant to change that , stoke need to look abroad or top 6 who wont have the same reservations . Who is your man on the South Coast Ben? Thomas Hardy. Only his stories are less depressing.
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