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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 7, 2017 14:33:53 GMT
Well Stoke were definitely fitter under TP than they are now. Todays players are pussies. What do you prefer, fitter players or better results & higher league finishes? The players should be fit as a matter of course , the fact we have moved on in terms of getting better quality in due to being able to pay higher wages and fees should not be at the expense of basic fitness and it looked like it was last season
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Post by Davef on Jul 7, 2017 14:39:33 GMT
Yeah, in their best Premier League season they finished a whopping one point better than us and died on their sorry arses for pretty much all of the last third of the season. You're almost as tedious as Pulis. It's not about if it's their best season or our worst, the facts are they're fitter and they still finished higher. I hope Hughes addresses our issues early and we get a good pre-season. Who says they're fitter? I saw no evidence in the two games against them that are fitter than us.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 7, 2017 14:43:12 GMT
Last season we pulled off the remarkable trick of looking undercooked until November and bollocksed by Christmas. I hope our own methods have been looked at and it's not another area of complacency.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2017 14:43:46 GMT
It's not about if it's their best season or our worst, the facts are they're fitter and they still finished higher. I hope Hughes addresses our issues early and we get a good pre-season. Who says they're fitter? I saw no evidence in the two games against them that are fitter than us. Well, I'm just basing it on Tony's training and his teams. I'm wrong in saying the facts are that they're fitter. Really though every Premier League team should be fit.
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Post by Davef on Jul 7, 2017 14:44:48 GMT
Who says they're fitter? I saw no evidence in the two games against them that are fitter than us. Well, I'm just basing it on Tony's training and his teams. I'm wrong in saying the facts are that they're fitter. Really though every Premier League team should be fit. They are.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2017 14:46:37 GMT
Well, I'm just basing it on Tony's training and his teams. I'm wrong in saying the facts are that they're fitter. Really though every Premier League team should be fit. They are. We don't look it though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 14:47:00 GMT
"Mr Pulis, he is like crazy man. The lads, they say is like the womble cock? I don't go in the shower any more".
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 7, 2017 14:52:03 GMT
People mistake speed for fitness. Our team doesn't lack fitness, it lacks leg speed.
As for this particular matter pulis disciples will ridicule the fancy dan player whilst his detractors will point to the fact that despite being their most creative and exciting player, chadli found himself on the bench for most of the latter half of last season as he fell behind Robson kanu in the pecking order for a role in behind the front man.
Funny how he always seems to fall out with a certain type of player isn't it?
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 7, 2017 14:52:10 GMT
Well, I'm just basing it on Tony's training and his teams. I'm wrong in saying the facts are that they're fitter. Really though every Premier League team should be fit. They are. I'm sure that they are all fit compared to most of us but in a lot of games last season to my eyes the opposition looked sharper and quicker to the ball than us , we seemed to concede a fair few late goals and did not score many so there is a sign that we could have been fitter
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 14:55:24 GMT
I'm sure that they are all fit compared to most of us but in a lot of games last season to my eyes the opposition looked sharper and quicker to the ball than us , we seemed to concede a fair few late goals and did not score many so there is a sign that we could have been fitter Totally agree. All teams are fit, of course they are but some are fitter than others. IMO we fell short.
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Post by Gods on Jul 7, 2017 15:00:12 GMT
Last season we pulled off the remarkable trick of looking undercooked until November and bollocksed by Christmas. I hope our own methods have been looked at and it's not another area of complacency. That would be funny were it not so true, in fact on reflection it's funny either way
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 7, 2017 15:03:48 GMT
Last season we pulled off the remarkable trick of looking undercooked until November and bollocksed by Christmas. I hope our own methods have been looked at and it's not another area of complacency. Funny but true. Edit beat me to it Gods
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Post by coupe on Jul 7, 2017 15:04:23 GMT
You have obviosley never played sport at a good level. Well no I haven't but clearly neither have you. And it has fuck all to do with this. Premier League footballers on the whole will be as fit now as when they finished the season. Their match sharpness will be decreased but it shouldn't take much to get them to where they need to be. They're checked throughout the summer, given regimes to follow etc. It's not the 70s anymore. Well that's where your wrong again 5 years at a proffesional club,clearly proves you wrong also why does every club take played away for pre season training as like everybody sportsmen are allowed holidays like everyone else and are allowed to indulge they lost sharpness and timing after short breaks, and I have spent a week in the company of a former prem footballer along with another and I can tell you they can out drink the most hardened beer drinkers I know as they go manic in their mid season break.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 7, 2017 15:35:25 GMT
Is English your first language?
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Post by coupe on Jul 7, 2017 15:45:21 GMT
Is English your first language? Nein
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2017 15:48:26 GMT
Well no I haven't but clearly neither have you. And it has fuck all to do with this. Premier League footballers on the whole will be as fit now as when they finished the season. Their match sharpness will be decreased but it shouldn't take much to get them to where they need to be. They're checked throughout the summer, given regimes to follow etc. It's not the 70s anymore. Well that's where your wrong again 5 years at a proffesional club,clearly proves you wrong also why does every club take played away for pre season training as like everybody sportsmen are allowed holidays like everyone else and are allowed to indulge they lost sharpness and timing after short breaks, and I have spent a week in the company of a former prem footballer along with another and I can tell you they can out drink the most hardened beer drinkers I know as they go manic in their mid season break.
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Post by werrington on Jul 7, 2017 15:50:13 GMT
People mistake speed for fitness. Our team doesn't lack fitness, it lacks leg speed. As for this particular matter pulis disciples will ridicule the fancy dan player whilst his detractors will point to the fact that despite being their most creative and exciting player, chadli found himself on the bench for most of the latter half of last season as he fell behind Robson kanu in the pecking order for a role in behind the front man. Funny how he always seems to fall out with a certain type of player isn't it? It's his way of let's say " isolating " them That process has now begun for Mr Chadli
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 7, 2017 15:52:40 GMT
This thread is like vultures round it's prey
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 7, 2017 15:53:33 GMT
Is English your first language? Nein That explains a great deal.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2017 15:55:44 GMT
This thread is like vultures round it's prey Who are the vultures and who is the prey?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 7, 2017 15:56:36 GMT
This thread is like vultures round it's prey Who are the vultures and who is the prey? Come on mate work that one out for yoursen😄
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 16:02:02 GMT
People mistake speed for fitness. Our team doesn't lack fitness, it lacks leg speed. As for this particular matter pulis disciples will ridicule the fancy dan player whilst his detractors will point to the fact that despite being their most creative and exciting player, chadli found himself on the bench for most of the latter half of last season as he fell behind Robson kanu in the pecking order for a role in behind the front man. Funny how he always seems to fall out with a certain type of player isn't it? Dave we looked dead on our feet at the end of games especially when trying to defend narrow leads. We do lack pace but IMO our fitness is an issue.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2017 16:02:59 GMT
Who are the vultures and who is the prey? Come on mate work that one out for yoursen😄 Not a clue
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2017 16:05:47 GMT
Well no I haven't but clearly neither have you. And it has fuck all to do with this. Premier League footballers on the whole will be as fit now as when they finished the season. Their match sharpness will be decreased but it shouldn't take much to get them to where they need to be. They're checked throughout the summer, given regimes to follow etc. It's not the 70s anymore. Well that's where your wrong again 5 years at a proffesional club,clearly proves you wrong also why does every club take played away for pre season training as like everybody sportsmen are allowed holidays like everyone else and are allowed to indulge they lost sharpness and timing after short breaks, and I have spent a week in the company of a former prem footballer along with another and I can tell you they can out drink the most hardened beer drinkers I know as they go manic in their mid season break. You're stuck in the seventies.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 7, 2017 16:05:50 GMT
Come on mate work that one out for yoursen😄 Not a clue Lets say you've been on here long enough to know😃
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 7, 2017 16:07:45 GMT
People mistake speed for fitness. Our team doesn't lack fitness, it lacks leg speed. As for this particular matter pulis disciples will ridicule the fancy dan player whilst his detractors will point to the fact that despite being their most creative and exciting player, chadli found himself on the bench for most of the latter half of last season as he fell behind Robson kanu in the pecking order for a role in behind the front man. Funny how he always seems to fall out with a certain type of player isn't it? Dave we looked dead on our feet at the end of games especially when trying to defend narrow leads. We do lack pace but IMO our fitness is an issue. Any team sitting back defending a lead will appear leggy. The nerves of the support will only exaggerate that feeling. I'd be pretty comfortable predicting that our players could run equally as far as their opponent but more than likely slower. I better they could maintain their respective top speeds for equally as long as well. Ground coverage has rarely been a problem for our team, we just don't cover it particularly quickly, as evidenced by the running stats of Charlie Adam.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2017 16:09:26 GMT
Well that's where your wrong again 5 years at a proffesional club,clearly proves you wrong also why does every club take played away for pre season training as like everybody sportsmen are allowed holidays like everyone else and are allowed to indulge they lost sharpness and timing after short breaks, and I have spent a week in the company of a former prem footballer along with another and I can tell you they can out drink the most hardened beer drinkers I know as they go manic in their mid season break. You're stuck in the seventies. I'd say the Stone Age. Can barely even understand what he's typing.
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Post by lordb on Jul 7, 2017 16:10:52 GMT
Why didn't we concede more late goals than Superfit Albion then?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 7, 2017 16:12:50 GMT
People mistake speed for fitness. Our team doesn't lack fitness, it lacks leg speed. As for this particular matter pulis disciples will ridicule the fancy dan player whilst his detractors will point to the fact that despite being their most creative and exciting player, chadli found himself on the bench for most of the latter half of last season as he fell behind Robson kanu in the pecking order for a role in behind the front man. Funny how he always seems to fall out with a certain type of player isn't it? Dave we looked dead on our feet at the end of games especially when trying to defend narrow leads. We do lack pace but IMO our fitness is an issue. Other factors come in to play of course but only Middlesbrough won less points than us from losing positions last season (we won just 3) and only Bournemouth and West Ham lost more points from winning positions. Very strange for a club in mid table to feature so prominently in both tables. Fitness has to play a part.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2017 16:13:22 GMT
Why didn't we concede more late goals than Superfit Albion then? I don't know. I'm unaware of how many late goals they conceded compared to us.
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