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Post by RAF on Jul 3, 2017 17:09:32 GMT
Which is infinitely better than reading your dross. Personally i'd rather just say it and see it how it is rather than chat shit to try and bring people fake positivity. Fake Positivity? From the bloke who reckons we should be targetting a top 4 finish? Priceless H
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 17:10:51 GMT
Personally i'd rather just say it and see it how it is rather than chat shit to try and bring people fake positivity. Fake Positivity? From the bloke who reckons we should be targetting a top 4 finish? Priceless H Being ambitious and lying are two different things you clown.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 3, 2017 17:11:29 GMT
Explain Hughes' first two seasons here. Naff all spent and nigh on 150M in prize money in return? Still don't trust him with transfer money, like I said he should be told to bargain bid he's better inheriting players like the first two seasons you mention with Pulis's old guard squad being the lynch pin. That is a huge difference than proving your worth going forward signing new hopefuls on nearly a quarter of that 150 in just one flop. He has no excuses when those players move on this summer. I personally wouldn't trust him with any more record signings... Is it your money? Honestly, what load of shit.
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Post by milky on Jul 3, 2017 17:12:00 GMT
Question. Do you think Mark Hughes just pops out and buys the player and nobody else at the club is involved in the decision in any way and just rock up one day to find who the manager has bought? Do you think possibly there are a great number of meetings with numerous people, shortlists, knockbacks, breakthroughs, changes of mind and then agreement of all the members of the group on a decision? Or do you think it's like career mode on FIFA? Bowen has stated publicly that the Imbula transfer was down to Hughes after watching him in a pre season friendly against us, make of that what you will. Yes because Hughes is the only manager in the history of football ever to do that isn't he ? Both Ferguson and Clough spent big money (for the time ) on players that bombed ! Shall we just advocate getting rid of a manager every time he makes a poor judgement in the transfer market ?
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 3, 2017 17:12:15 GMT
I happen to think Mark Hughes offers us strong stable leadership He does, with mediocre risky recruitment but it is a gamble and it is what it is. He needs to find more Sobhi's in the basement and less window shopping Imbulas. More dog shit.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 17:13:31 GMT
He does, with mediocre risky recruitment but it is a gamble and it is what it is. He needs to find more Sobhi's in the basement and less window shopping Imbulas. More dog shit. Antagonist!
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Post by milky on Jul 3, 2017 17:13:46 GMT
Every season? Lay off the ale lad. Yes every season, every club. He's a notorious thumb twiddler. So you thought this minutes after we'd just put 6 past Liverpool in the final game in 2015 ???
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Post by RAF on Jul 3, 2017 17:14:53 GMT
Fake Positivity? From the bloke who reckons we should be targetting a top 4 finish? Priceless H Being ambitious and lying are two different things you clown. Well obviously. I'd have another vodka with Huddy if I were you. H
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Post by milky on Jul 3, 2017 17:17:21 GMT
Yet again it looks like we still have supporters desperate for Hughes to fall on his arse next season...
Class !
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 3, 2017 17:18:19 GMT
There's a big difference between having an opinion and expecting everyone to someday share your opinion. Neither of us know how next season will pan out. Are you claiming some special powers? It doesn't matter whether things are looking up or not. Hughest wasn't sacked in May and Coates is backing him. Get over it 'Neither of us know how next season will pan out' You're one smart cookie, my little skunk-come-kitty. What I can say on the evidence of the last two season is that it is more than likely going to be another shite season with a greater risk of it being much worse than anything better. Hope it won't be shite but how can I be positive and upbeat? Well my tiny mass murdering scumbag 'Neither of us know how next season will pan out' was in reference to your statement that "Hughes had is day and it's only a matter of time before all supporters and Coates know it.. That's one hell of a statement - can you really see into the future? Adopting your logic last season we should have resulted in a top half finish because the season before ended in a top half finish. Nobody is denying last season was disappointing and we need some significant transfer activity to address some gaps in the squad. Its early days - and if Coates is saying he is backing Hughes I'm pretty sure that means backing him in the transfer market. Not to do so is plain stupid - and Coates isn't stupid. You've decided to take a pessimistic outlook on next season and I've decided to be optimistic. The difference appears to be that you actually believe your fantasies will come true. I just hope mine do - I don't lay claim to knowing the future.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 17:29:52 GMT
Yes every season, every club. He's a notorious thumb twiddler. So you thought this minutes after we'd just put 6 past Liverpool in the final game in 2015 ??? One good perforance, one bad performance. Doesn't mean anything to me.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 17:31:06 GMT
Being ambitious and lying are two different things you clown. Well obviously. I'd have another vodka with Huddy if I were you. H I'd love that!
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Post by milky on Jul 3, 2017 17:33:27 GMT
So you thought this minutes after we'd just put 6 past Liverpool in the final game in 2015 ??? One good perforance, one bad performance. Doesn't mean anything to me. You claimed Hughes has fucked up every season at every club which is clearly cringeworthy bollocks. How about the 64 point season with Blackburn just as an example . You're either on a wind up or a bit dim.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 3, 2017 17:34:49 GMT
He does, with mediocre risky recruitment but it is a gamble and it is what it is. He needs to find more Sobhi's in the basement and less window shopping Imbulas. More dog shit. Ohh so we should spend another near £20 on another experiment, delusion.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 3, 2017 17:37:29 GMT
Still don't trust him with transfer money, like I said he should be told to bargain bid he's better inheriting players like the first two seasons you mention with Pulis's old guard squad being the lynch pin. That is a huge difference than proving your worth going forward signing new hopefuls on nearly a quarter of that 150 in just one flop. He has no excuses when those players move on this summer. I personally wouldn't trust him with any more record signings... Is it your money? Honestly, what load of shit. No, like I said it was lol I wish! All I said is that he hasn't a stellar record of spending big, but finding cheap. Is that hard for you to contemplate? 😏 Imbula vs Sobhi is a prime example, unless you think reality isn't an indication.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 17:40:20 GMT
One good perforance, one bad performance. Doesn't mean anything to me. You claimed Hughes has fucked up every season at every club which is clearly cringeworthy bollocks. How about the 64 point season with Blackburn just as an example . You're either on a wind up or a bit dim. He had a decent season at Blackburn when he finished 6th and the 7/8 season I will give him that. Still do not rate him when looking at his whole career.
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Post by RAF on Jul 3, 2017 17:41:50 GMT
Well obviously. I'd have another vodka with Huddy if I were you. H I'd love that! I met him at Wembley, got a nice pic with him. He told me we would win 4-2. Thing is about footballers having the skills to play the game doesn't necessarily mean they know the game. His lad Alan went to school with my younger brother he had some talent but pissed it up the wall as well. H
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Post by milky on Jul 3, 2017 17:43:01 GMT
You claimed Hughes has fucked up every season at every club which is clearly cringeworthy bollocks. How about the 64 point season with Blackburn just as an example . You're either on a wind up or a bit dim. He had a decent season at Blackburn when he finished 6th and the 7/8 season I will give him that. Still do not rate him when looking at his whole career. So during his managerial career he has just one decent season to his name? I'm afraid I'm going for the dim option.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 17:46:08 GMT
I met him at Wembley, got a nice pic with him. He told me we would win 4-2. Thing is about footballers having the skills to play the game doesn't necessarily mean they know the game. His lad Alan went to school with my younger brother he had some talent but pissed it up the wall as well. H No, but the ambition shows how they got there in the first place, and that applies to not only individual athletes, but to businesses and football clubs as well.
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Post by PolPotter on Jul 3, 2017 17:46:28 GMT
'Neither of us know how next season will pan out' You're one smart cookie, my little skunk-come-kitty. What I can say on the evidence of the last two season is that it is more than likely going to be another shite season with a greater risk of it being much worse than anything better. Hope it won't be shite but how can I be positive and upbeat? Well my tiny mass murdering scumbag 'Neither of us know how next season will pan out' was in reference to your statement that "Hughes had is day and it's only a matter of time before all supporters and Coates know it.. That's one hell of a statement - can you really see into the future? Adopting your logic last season we should have resulted in a top half finish because the season before ended in a top half finish. Nobody is denying last season was disappointing and we need some significant transfer activity to address some gaps in the squad. Its early days - and if Coates is saying he is backing Hughes I'm pretty sure that means backing him in the transfer market. Not to do so is plain stupid - and Coates isn't stupid. You've decided to take a pessimistic outlook on next season and I've decided to be optimistic. The difference appears to be that you actually believe your fantasies will come true. I just hope mine do - I don't lay claim to knowing the future. You keep hoping Pepe could never convince anyone he was actually a cat. He was a skunk!
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 3, 2017 17:46:50 GMT
You claimed Hughes has fucked up every season at every club which is clearly cringeworthy bollocks. How about the 64 point season with Blackburn just as an example . You're either on a wind up or a bit dim. He had a decent season at Blackburn when he finished 6th and the 7/8 season I will give him that. Still do not rate him when looking at his whole career. He's had two good, one below his target but hardly bad. He's stubborn with players and okay in recruitment it's just the big money signing hasn't worked for him here and his man management perhaps has gotten the better of him last season. I just personally don't think he is the one to get the squad going off of big signings, he seems a better bargain finder with Bojan, Sobhi etc... but recruiting overall I would agree is a bit lacking but also I'd add, everyone involved at the club from the pizza brigade to the manager seems a bit behind the curve when it comes to dealings.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 17:47:35 GMT
He had a decent season at Blackburn when he finished 6th and the 7/8 season I will give him that. Still do not rate him when looking at his whole career. So during his managerial career he has just one decent season to his name? I'm afraid I'm going for the dim option. His career so far as a manager has not been anything special and we can do better.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 3, 2017 17:48:08 GMT
Ohh so we should spend another near £20 on another experiment, delusion. Experiment?
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Post by PolPotter on Jul 3, 2017 17:49:37 GMT
One good perforance, one bad performance. Doesn't mean anything to me. You claimed Hughes has fucked up every season at every club which is clearly cringeworthy bollocks. How about the 64 point season with Blackburn just as an example . You're either on a wind up or a bit dim. He mostly gets worse and never regains what he had. That's what is happening at Stoke. It's because he's limited, not his fault.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 3, 2017 17:50:15 GMT
Ohh so we should spend another near £20 on another experiment, delusion. Experiment? Imbula, the Portuguese experiment that turned into Quasimodo that nobody wants to even loan.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 3, 2017 17:51:03 GMT
Imbula, the Portuguese experiment that turned into Quasimodo that nobody wants to even loan. So he was signed as an experiment? Stick to rounders.
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Post by milky on Jul 3, 2017 17:54:07 GMT
So during his managerial career he has just one decent season to his name? I'm afraid I'm going for the dim option. His career so far as a manager has not been anything special and we can do better. Arguably we could but PC has decided to back his man to sort it so there we go.. I don't think anyone would argue against the fact that the management had a collective stinker last season. More of the same will only result in one outcome I'm sure.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 3, 2017 17:54:59 GMT
Imbula, the Portuguese experiment that turned into Quasimodo that nobody wants to even loan. So he was signed as an experiment? Stick to rounders. Umm yea, he was always an experiment for our club at a push with him not speaking English and bought on potential. Unless you still are delusional into thinking he is going to be the new Viera off a few Porto appearances. You think he was proven? 😂
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Post by RAF on Jul 3, 2017 17:55:45 GMT
I met him at Wembley, got a nice pic with him. He told me we would win 4-2. Thing is about footballers having the skills to play the game doesn't necessarily mean they know the game. His lad Alan went to school with my younger brother he had some talent but pissed it up the wall as well. H No, but the ambition shows how they got there in the first place, and that applies to not only individual athletes, but to businesses and football clubs as well. Look. Ambition is fucking great. No one wants to see Stoke win the League or finish in the top four more than me. It's about managing your own expectations though. It doesn't mean I'm not ambitious nor is the club, but in reality apart from the anomaly that was Leicester the chances of it happening are slim to none. Unless of course Coatesy decides to go all Abramovic on us which we all know won't happen. I'm resigned to top 8 at best with a decent cup run. Not because I've got no ambition but because I'm a realist. That way I don't get too disappointed. H
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 17:57:36 GMT
No, but the ambition shows how they got there in the first place, and that applies to not only individual athletes, but to businesses and football clubs as well. Look. Ambition is fucking great. No one wants to see Stoke win the League or finish in the top four more than me. It's about managing your own expectations though. It doesn't mean I'm not ambitious nor is the club, but in reality apart from the anomaly that was Leicester the chances of it happening are slim to none. Unless of course Coatesy decides to go all Abramovic on us which we all know won't happen. I'm resigned to top 8 at best with a decent cup run. Not because I've got no ambition but because I'm a realist. That way I don't get too disappointed. H It definitely won't happen by not doing anything and saying it won't happen. That's for sure.
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