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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 6:25:26 GMT
Has anyone else noticed the increase of homeless people in newcastle recently?
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 12, 2017 7:18:14 GMT
It's all over mate. Prohibitively highly priced houses & rent. Insecure employment, austerity. It's a perfect storm. Saw a bloke I vaguely know, V early on Sat, coming out of some bushes with his ruck-sack. All too common.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 12, 2017 7:21:18 GMT
It's all over mate. Prohibitively highly priced houses & rent. Insecure employment, austerity. It's a perfect storm. Saw a bloke I vaguely know, V early on Sat, coming out of some bushes with his ruck-sack. All too common. That was Corbyn.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 14:53:07 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 12, 2017 15:08:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 15:42:35 GMT
I daren't sit down with my wrights pie anymore^
Bloody affluent beggars get more money than me and they get moved on. I'd love to get a pay rise to match what they get.
Even the bloody pigeons have started to throw food at me =)
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 8, 2017 10:06:51 GMT
We need to address this crisis.It should be treated as a National emergency, but our cities have drifted into acceptance I don't think fining homeless people £1000 is the answer.....who thought that one up! At the very least some of the Overseas Aid budget should go to tackling " third world" problems literally on our doorstep, in my opinion. Stoke-on-Trent council abandoned a proposal to fine people sleeping in tents after a public outcry but others, including Luton, Brighton & Hove, Colchester, Hemel Hempstead and Poole, are using or considering similar orders. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rough-sleepers-hounded-off-britain-s-streets-bbgqdtbls
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Post by elystokie on Dec 8, 2017 10:18:37 GMT
We need to address this crisis.It should be treated as a National emergency, but our cities have drifted into acceptance I don't think fining homeless people £1000 is the answer.....who thought that one up! At the very least some of the Overseas Aid budget should go to tackling " third world" problems literally on our doorstep, in my opinion. Stoke-on-Trent council abandoned a proposal to fine people sleeping in tents after a public outcry but others, including Luton, Brighton & Hove, Colchester, Hemel Hempstead and Poole, are using or considering similar orders. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rough-sleepers-hounded-off-britain-s-streets-bbgqdtblsCracking idea, they obviously won't be able to pay so will end up in clink and costing society far more than if they'd been given support in the first place. It's not just the UK tho, we visited a few European Cities this year and it's the same story in a lot of places, Hamburg has a massive problem.
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Post by chrisgal on Dec 8, 2017 10:45:50 GMT
How is it we seem to have plenty of accomodation to cope with imigration but we have so many homeless people on our streets?
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 8, 2017 11:30:55 GMT
Our wonderful council (ahem) tried to give fines to homeless people
These people would still be homeless even if no people came in from abroad.
It's how the system is designed to work
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 8, 2017 16:26:58 GMT
We need to address this crisis.It should be treated as a National emergency, but our cities have drifted into acceptance I don't think fining homeless people £1000 is the answer.....who thought that one up! At the very least some of the Overseas Aid budget should go to tackling " third world" problems literally on our doorstep, in my opinion. Stoke-on-Trent council abandoned a proposal to fine people sleeping in tents after a public outcry but others, including Luton, Brighton & Hove, Colchester, Hemel Hempstead and Poole, are using or considering similar orders. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rough-sleepers-hounded-off-britain-s-streets-bbgqdtblsCracking idea, they obviously won't be able to pay so will end up in clink and costing society far more than if they'd been given support in the first place. It's not just the UK tho, we visited a few European Cities this year and it's the same story in a lot of places, Hamburg has a massive problem. It's shocking and sad in the states too mate. LA County found about 46,000 homeless and only shelter about 11k. There are probably more they didn't catch and if you step a few blocks out of downtown there are entire streets where the pavements are tent cities. The locals voted for more VAT to help out but actually doing anything is a nightmare. Hardly anyone wants cheap blocks of flats going up near them so they protest and stop it. Otherwise their million dollar houses might lose a bit of value.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 9, 2017 9:51:18 GMT
It's all over mate. Prohibitively highly priced houses & rent. Insecure employment, austerity. It's a perfect storm. Saw a bloke I vaguely know, V early on Sat, coming out of some bushes with his ruck-sack. All too common. Add to job insecurity stressful jobs with shit, unreasonable management who push people into anxiety and depression, which causes them to quit work and suffer financially. I speak from experience, and realise that it's a very fine line at times.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 9, 2017 10:33:36 GMT
Whoever thought that one up should be fined £1000 for each of the homeless people in S-o-T who would have been affected by it.
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Post by felonious on Dec 9, 2017 19:01:37 GMT
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Post by Boothen on Dec 9, 2017 20:04:05 GMT
Macari's flophouse, and that Brighter Futures place, are both part of the problem, not the solution. They just encourage more of these parasites to come into the area.
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 10, 2017 2:31:31 GMT
Macari's flophouse, and that Brighter Futures place, are both part of the problem, not the solution. They just encourage more of these parasites to come into the area. What's the fix? I hate homelessness and want to fix it. Right now I donate to Shelter and some local places, but if there's a better way I'm all ears.
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Post by felonious on Dec 10, 2017 6:02:57 GMT
Macari's flophouse, and that Brighter Futures place, are both part of the problem, not the solution. They just encourage more of these parasites to come into the area. Are you saying that with a local population of circa 400,000 we have none of our own using this facility?
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Post by essexstokey on Dec 10, 2017 9:28:16 GMT
Macari's flophouse, and that Brighter Futures place, are both part of the problem, not the solution. They just encourage more of these parasites to come into the area. Didn't know your name was Ebenezer scrooge bet your policy is to let them all freeze to death! shame on you!!!
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Post by essexstokey on Dec 10, 2017 9:35:59 GMT
Macari's flophouse, and that Brighter Futures place, are both part of the problem, not the solution. They just encourage more of these parasites to come into the area. What's the fix? I hate homelessness and want to fix it. Right now I donate to Shelter and some local places, but if there's a better way I'm all ears. There is a better way but for individuals its not possible just keep giving to the homeless charities (not individuals) or even volunteer the better way is for a number of rich business people to set up a charity and give it a few million each they then go out and buy properties which they rent to the homeless (the government pay the fees via housing benefit) this is then re invested in more houses etc so the charity is acting as a landlord and also can get help into the people that need it. In other words doing the job the government should (all political party's) round here a council owned care home was kept empty by the council for over 2 years and for sale notices up for ages why could they not use it as emergency accommodation
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 10, 2017 9:42:15 GMT
Who'd have thought there could possibly be an issue with living in a capitalist world where wealth and profit mean everything to the point that governments create laws to make the rich richer and the poor poorer?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 10, 2017 14:19:35 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 20, 2017 7:49:39 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 20, 2017 10:50:12 GMT
Nice touch from Meir Tesco's and the local bobbies....
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 20, 2017 11:18:29 GMT
Got to get a handle on this. Got to, got to. There have to be unused, buildings whether industrial or not in towns and cities where some basic amenities like a bunk bed, toilet and tea room could be provided over night. I had a thought that any pub closing down should have a tax break if sold to local authorities for homeless accommodation. Big enough, numerous rooms, existing toilet facilities and local licences for public use in place.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 20, 2017 12:04:03 GMT
The trouble with homelessness is it's used as a political football Politics has very little to do with it A lot of people living on the streets have one or more deep lying problems The lack of money not being one of them If you give them a flat sort out there benefits with in six months there back on the streets Either not paying their rent or anti social behaviour
Sort there addiction out Sort there mental health out Then you can sort out there problem with housing
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 20, 2017 12:10:20 GMT
Someone was telling me last week that they gave a homeless person a hot drink and food and although he was very pleased and after a lengthy chat he said that indeed the food and drink was most welcome but the problem was he needed cash as the Macari shelter were charging £5 to stay the night.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 20, 2017 12:49:03 GMT
The trouble with homelessness is it's used as a political football Politics has very little to do with it A lot of people living on the streets have one or more deep lying problems The lack of money not being one of them If you give them a flat sort out there benefits with in six months there back on the streets Either not paying their rent or anti social behaviour Sort there addiction out Sort there mental health out Then you can sort out there problem with housing Undoubtedly. Plus many of the homeless aren't 'homeless' it's just the home they have access to is unwelcoming or down right dangerous. A local focal centre like my pub idea would also be a place to register any addictions, take the mobile numbers of the rough sleepers, check they're registered with GP's etc, etc. I'm hoping this is happening by someone somewhere.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 20, 2017 12:51:25 GMT
Someone was telling me last week that they gave a homeless person a hot drink and food and although he was very pleased and after a lengthy chat he said that indeed the food and drink was most welcome but the problem was he needed cash as the Macari shelter were charging £5 to stay the night. I'm pretty sure the fiver is only to cover unavoidable costs.
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 20, 2017 13:54:57 GMT
Someone was telling me last week that they gave a homeless person a hot drink and food and although he was very pleased and after a lengthy chat he said that indeed the food and drink was most welcome but the problem was he needed cash as the Macari shelter were charging £5 to stay the night. I'm pretty sure the fiver is only to cover unavoidable costs. Maybe so mate but I would imagine £5 to a homeless person is a vast amount.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 20, 2017 17:20:09 GMT
I'm pretty sure the fiver is only to cover unavoidable costs. Maybe so mate but I would imagine £5 to a homeless person is a vast amount. Absolutely.
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