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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 24, 2018 7:36:19 GMT
An ordinary homeless person
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Post by senojbor on Aug 24, 2018 8:01:54 GMT
Isn't increasing homelessness just the obvious consequence of an increasingly unequal and careless society where the only thing that matters is making a profit and fuck the consequences? No it isn't. You know it takes some doing to become homeless. It takes a unique set of unfortunate circumstances to find yourself on the street with absolutely no where to go. The vast majority on the streets have ended up there because of their own making. They become that bad that even parents or close family/friends will not put up with them. Drug and alcohol misuse and thieving habits to fund it is the biggest reason for homelessness. If they want to spend their money on monkey dust or other shit then that's their choice.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 14, 2018 17:23:41 GMT
What a ridiculous waste of Police time. What's the point in doing this to someone who just needs help? ( Not much info in the tweet mind)
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 14, 2018 17:29:10 GMT
We need to tax 2nd home owners @&$es o££. That will flood the market with houses, lowering the prices...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 14, 2018 17:51:10 GMT
We need to tax 2nd home owners @&$es o££. That will flood the market with houses, lowering the prices... Mate, that's just daft. Are you saying that the homeless are on the streets waiting to buy a house at the right price? If only prices came down by 10% or 20% homelessness would get sorted? Or even improved a little?
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 14, 2018 18:05:52 GMT
We need to tax 2nd home owners @&$es o££. That will flood the market with houses, lowering the prices... Mate, that's just daft. Are you saying that the homeless are on the streets waiting to buy a house at the right price? If only prices came down by 10% or 20% homelessness would get sorted? Or even improved a little? If you don’t think inflated house prices & rents aren’t a contributer to homelessness then you’re one man clapping. Or is it that you’re some sort of landlord & I’ve rattled you’re gilded cage!?!
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Post by salopstick on Oct 14, 2018 18:09:43 GMT
In London 30% of homeless are Eastern European.
We have many problems in this country importing homelessness shouldn’t be one of them
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 14, 2018 18:14:06 GMT
In London 30% of homeless are Eastern European. We have many problems in this country importing homelessness shouldn’t be one of them I thought we had a policy of £@#&!ng 0££ foreign homeless... problem is, we’ve cut enforcement staff so much, there’s no one left to do it...
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Post by felonious on Oct 14, 2018 18:18:15 GMT
We need to tax 2nd home owners @&$es o££. That will flood the market with houses, lowering the prices... The Conservatives have already started to do that. Interest relief is being cut over a four year period so that more tax is due.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 14, 2018 18:54:02 GMT
We need to tax 2nd home owners @&$es o££. That will flood the market with houses, lowering the prices... The Conservatives have already started to do that. Interest relief is being cut over a four year period so that more tax is due. Whoopy£@#&!n-do!
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Post by felonious on Oct 14, 2018 19:04:33 GMT
The Conservatives have already started to do that. Interest relief is being cut over a four year period so that more tax is due. Whoopy£@#&!n-do! They've put higher stamp duty on second homes as well. I don't think they like people owning second homes. I reckon these measures are just the start.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 14, 2018 23:22:19 GMT
Mate, that's just daft. Are you saying that the homeless are on the streets waiting to buy a house at the right price? If only prices came down by 10% or 20% homelessness would get sorted? Or even improved a little? If you don’t think inflated house prices & rents aren’t a contributer to homelessness then you’re one man clapping. Or is it that you’re some sort of landlord & I’ve rattled you’re gilded cage!?! So the young fella in a doorway that I give a wright's pie to now and again is priced out of the rental market? Nothing to do with monkey dust or not having a pot to piss in, never mind a deposit, a job or a bank account. Booze addiction or mental health problems. But by "some sort of landlord" you mean ..... landlord. Then yes, I am. House prices aren't "inflated" they're what the market allows them to be.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 15, 2018 5:49:44 GMT
If you don’t think inflated house prices & rents aren’t a contributer to homelessness then you’re one man clapping. Or is it that you’re some sort of landlord & I’ve rattled you’re gilded cage!?! So the young fella in a doorway that I give a wright's pie to now and again is priced out of the rental market? Nothing to do with monkey dust or not having a pot to piss in, never mind a deposit, a job or a bank account. Booze addiction or mental health problems. But by "some sort of landlord" you mean ..... landlord. Then yes, I am. House prices aren't "inflated" they're what the market allows them to be. Well done on buying spice boy his Wrights pie, but PCP & grog are a symptom of the market, not the cause & we have manipulated that & it can be shifted the other way at will. Buy more pies, it's your consciences form of taxation...
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 15, 2018 6:43:19 GMT
Isn't increasing homelessness just the obvious consequence of an increasingly unequal and careless society where the only thing that matters is making a profit and fuck the consequences? No it isn't. You know it takes some doing to become homeless. It takes a unique set of unfortunate circumstances to find yourself on the street with absolutely no where to go. The vast majority on the streets have ended up there because of their own making. They become that bad that even parents or close family/friends will not put up with them. Drug and alcohol misuse and thieving habits to fund it is the biggest reason for homelessness. If they want to spend their money on monkey dust or other shit then that's their choice. That's more or less correct in my experience. Although maybe we should ask why people turn to drugs/alcohol in the first place. Some do it by choice.Some homeless people have been through the Care system. And prison. And both. And the end up on the streets...wasted. Very sad.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 15, 2018 7:28:42 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Oct 15, 2018 8:58:41 GMT
We must never stop or decrease overseas spending. However it should be scrutinised on how down so not wasted.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 15, 2018 9:07:05 GMT
We must never stop or decrease overseas spending. However it should be scrutinised on how down so not wasted. I don't agree here Salop. I think that there is a case for suspending some of it until we sort out some of the problems we have and can see in our country ... I also think that there are many basic rate taxpayer s who can't afford a decent life, I don't see why they should contribute to countries that already have some rich people. In addition this country borrows too much money and is in debt, we can't afford to give it away.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 15, 2018 9:36:04 GMT
We must never stop or decrease overseas spending. However it should be scrutinised on how down so not wasted. Why should one penny of tax payers money be given to India who runs there own space program and other such countries Over seas aid should be there for humanitarian disasters not to fund political interference On the point of homelessness may be the problem could be solved if councils stoped spending just a fraction of the money they wank up the wall on diversity and the arts
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 15, 2018 9:39:17 GMT
So the young fella in a doorway that I give a wright's pie to now and again is priced out of the rental market? Nothing to do with monkey dust or not having a pot to piss in, never mind a deposit, a job or a bank account. Booze addiction or mental health problems. But by "some sort of landlord" you mean ..... landlord. Then yes, I am. House prices aren't "inflated" they're what the market allows them to be. Well done on buying spice boy his Wrights pie, but PCP & grog are a symptom of the market, not the cause & we have manipulated that & it can be shifted the other way at will. Buy more pies, it's your consciences form of taxation... ...... higher rates of interest on BTL mortgages, capital gains tax on property profit, tax on rental income, higher property insurance policy premiums not to mention driving the lettings and property management industry, employing local tradesman for repairs and gas safety certificates and of course providing accommodation for the tenant.... but yeah pies as well.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 15, 2018 9:41:41 GMT
We must never stop or decrease overseas spending. However it should be scrutinised on how down so not wasted. I don't agree here Salop. I think that there is a case for suspending some of it until we sort out some of the problems we have and can see in our country By accident at birth we live in a wealthy country albeit a country that has degrees of wealth and affluence as well as our own problems. More scrutiny is needed to make countries that take our aid spend it more responsibly. That is needed.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 15, 2018 10:16:49 GMT
I don't agree here Salop. I think that there is a case for suspending some of it until we sort out some of the problems we have and can see in our country By accident at birth we live in a wealthy country albeit a country that has degrees of wealth and affluence as well as our own problems. More scrutiny is needed to make countries that take our aid spend it more responsibly. That is needed. With the best will in the world I don't think that the money that we contribute abroad could be scrutinised adequately for me. In any case the heads of charities through which much of the money is channelled are extremely well paid at the cost of our basic tax payers.....when there are solvable problems in our own country. I think that many people ( not you) are ok with the idea that the UK has got to come to terms with its post colonial role( and post colonial guilt) but are ok with us continuing to be generous across the world when we can't necessarily live up to the role. I would be happier supporting some of the overseas stuff if we also did something about the inequalities in our country
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Post by metalhead on Oct 15, 2018 10:33:02 GMT
What's all the fuss about mate? Homelessness can't be a big deal really.... I mean we've just spent 2 million quid on Princess Aubergine or Eulogy or whatever her fucking name having a posh wedding. Surely you'd only ever do that once things like homelessness and poverty are a thing of the past? I think this article sums it up in the sub heading. time.com/money/5409893/princess-eugenie-net-worth-wedding/Good question, just who the fuck is Princess Eugenie and why the fuck have we just spent in excess of 2 million quid on her having a posh wedding? ....especially when homelessness in this country is absolutely spiralling out of control. It's not hard to see why it's getting worse either. I have friends who haven't had a wage increase in 4, sometimes even 5 years. Zero hour contracts. Inflation is going up. Things are getting more expensive: services, utilities, , gas/electricity, water, rent, etc. You know when Mr Rent Man turns up for his money and you say "I haven't had a wage increase in 5 years, but you keep putting my rent up. I can't afford, please help".... Mr Rent Man smiles and nods and then he says "Yeah....... so when will you have that by?". I am in a very privileged position of not having to worry too much about being able to pay for my mortgage, but all that could change so suddenly and don't think it can't happen to you. If you enjoy pissing away your money because you have so much, you might want to think about putting some to one side, just in case.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 15, 2018 15:00:23 GMT
Well done on buying spice boy his Wrights pie, but PCP & grog are a symptom of the market, not the cause & we have manipulated that & it can be shifted the other way at will. Buy more pies, it's your consciences form of taxation... ...... higher rates of interest on BTL mortgages, capital gains tax on property profit, tax on rental income, higher property insurance policy premiums not to mention driving the lettings and property management industry, employing local tradesman for repairs and gas safety certificates and of course providing accommodation for the tenant.... but yeah pies as well. B!%dy’e!! Rog, You write that like you’re some great philanthropist. Perhaps you should go for charitable status, then you wouldn’t have to pay any tax...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 15, 2018 16:41:26 GMT
...... higher rates of interest on BTL mortgages, capital gains tax on property profit, tax on rental income, higher property insurance policy premiums not to mention driving the lettings and property management industry, employing local tradesman for repairs and gas safety certificates and of course providing accommodation for the tenant.... but yeah pies as well. B!%dy’e!! Rog, You write that like you’re some great philanthropist. Perhaps you should go for charitable status, then you wouldn’t have to pay any tax... You seem to think that all landlords rent to people on benefits or should do. You don't realise there a millions of professionals that rely on temporary accommodation. I don't expect you to understand Bathy. After all if it was that easy everyone would be doing it, right?
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 15, 2018 16:50:21 GMT
I don't agree here Salop. I think that there is a case for suspending some of it until we sort out some of the problems we have and can see in our country By accident at birth we live in a wealthy country albeit a country that has degrees of wealth and affluence as well as our own problems. More scrutiny is needed to make countries that take our aid spend it more responsibly. That is needed. Overseas aid is as much about peddling influence and strategic interests as it is about helping the less fortunate.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 15, 2018 17:46:17 GMT
By accident at birth we live in a wealthy country albeit a country that has degrees of wealth and affluence as well as our own problems. More scrutiny is needed to make countries that take our aid spend it more responsibly. That is needed. Overseas aid is as much about peddling influence and strategic interests as it is about helping the less fortunate. And creating overseas markets that we can sell goods & services to (including armaments & military expertise)
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 15, 2018 17:52:44 GMT
By accident at birth we live in a wealthy country albeit a country that has degrees of wealth and affluence as well as our own problems. More scrutiny is needed to make countries that take our aid spend it more responsibly. That is needed. Overseas aid is as much about peddling influence and strategic interests as it is about helping the less fortunate. I think you're right Harry , but I wonder who is really benefiting. I wouldn't know the implications so I am open to changing my mind but perhaps we should stop trying to be do influential world wide ( which does not mean not cooperating nor trading) and create a smaller place for ourselves. I would not mind so much if there was at least a will to deal with some of our own problems.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 15, 2018 18:01:54 GMT
By accident at birth we live in a wealthy country albeit a country that has degrees of wealth and affluence as well as our own problems. More scrutiny is needed to make countries that take our aid spend it more responsibly. That is needed. Overseas aid is as much about peddling influence and strategic interests as it is about helping the less fortunate. It's called 'soft power'. From aid to trade and diplomacy. The UK is an expert. We have a lot of respect, admiration and trust globally.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 16, 2018 4:14:44 GMT
B!%dy’e!! Rog, You write that like you’re some great philanthropist. Perhaps you should go for charitable status, then you wouldn’t have to pay any tax... You seem to think that all landlords rent to people on benefits or should do. You don't realise there a millions of professionals that rely on temporary accommodation. I don't expect you to understand Bathy. After all if it was that easy everyone would be doing it, right? The government should work on filling the massive gap that's opened up since the 1970s. 5 million new houses in a parliament should do it, the promises they've come up with so far are all like a gerbil pissing on a bonfire.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 16, 2018 4:35:04 GMT
You seem to think that all landlords rent to people on benefits or should do. You don't realise there a millions of professionals that rely on temporary accommodation. I don't expect you to understand Bathy. After all if it was that easy everyone would be doing it, right? The government should work on filling the massive gap that's opened up since the 1970s. 5 million new houses in a parliament should do it, the promises they've come up with so far are all like a gerbil pissing on a bonfire. Absolutely. A large scale house building project is desperately needed.
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