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Post by yeokel on Feb 17, 2019 12:18:00 GMT
So what are these global issues the EU has so much influence over ? Everything. Every international treaty when it is negotiated for example. The EU is the richest and biggest market on earth. Of course it has as much weight as can be had over global issues. Certainly more so than a small nation by itself. Learn about "Soft Power" Oggy. The UK is just about the strongest nation on Earth when it comes to influence, shaping events, diplomatic links etc. We have better, stronger connections than just about anybody else and usually come top of "soft power indexes". Not second or third or tenth - TOP, above USA, China, Germany, France and all the rest of them. I think we've come top of two of the last four "Portland Soft Power" indexes (other winners were USA & France" and I seem to recall reading that something like 35 current Prime Ministers, Presidents or Royal Family heads were educated in Britain. While people like you are belittling how strong our nation actually is we are still a major player as far as culture, influence & power is concerned. Don't knock us, try supporting us instead. World Soft Power - UK Leads" Alongside the English language, English contract law is the most important and most used contract law in international business.London is the headquarters for four of the world's six largest law firms. The UK and more specifically London is a centre of international finance where foreign participants in financial markets come to deal with one another. It is headquarters for major international corporations, many of which choose to be listed on the London Stock Exchange.
Following the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in 2018, the UK responded with bilateral and multilateral diplomatic efforts that led to nations around the world expelling one hundred and fifty Russian diplomats, described by CNN as a "remarkable diplomatic coup for Britain". British prime minister Theresa May stated in parliament that the coordinated global response was the "largest collective expulsion of Russian intelligence officers in history." Subsequently, Russia attempted to attribute some of the influence to the United States, this was seen to be a propaganda exercise designed to damage the UK's international prestige and found to be untrue following statements by the various states as well as the entirety of the European Union"
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Post by harryburrows on Feb 17, 2019 15:27:33 GMT
Everything. Every international treaty when it is negotiated for example. The EU is the richest and biggest market on earth. Of course it has as much weight as can be had over global issues. Certainly more so than a small nation by itself. Learn about "Soft Power" Oggy. The UK is just about the strongest nation on Earth when it comes to influence, shaping events, diplomatic links etc. We have better, stronger connections than just about anybody else and usually come top of "soft power indexes". Not second or third or tenth - TOP, above USA, China, Germany, France and all the rest of them. I think we've come top of two of the last four "Portland Soft Power" indexes (other winners were USA & France" and I seem to recall reading that something like 35 current Prime Ministers, Presidents or Royal Family heads were educated in Britain. While people like you are belittling how strong our nation actually is we are still a major player as far as culture, influence & power is concerned. Don't knock us, try supporting us instead. World Soft Power - UK Leads" Alongside the English language, English contract law is the most important and most used contract law in international business.London is the headquarters for four of the world's six largest law firms. The UK and more specifically London is a centre of international finance where foreign participants in financial markets come to deal with one another. It is headquarters for major international corporations, many of which choose to be listed on the London Stock Exchange.
Following the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in 2018, the UK responded with bilateral and multilateral diplomatic efforts that led to nations around the world expelling one hundred and fifty Russian diplomats, described by CNN as a "remarkable diplomatic coup for Britain". British prime minister Theresa May stated in parliament that the coordinated global response was the "largest collective expulsion of Russian intelligence officers in history." Subsequently, Russia attempted to attribute some of the influence to the United States, this was seen to be a propaganda exercise designed to damage the UK's international prestige and found to be untrue following statements by the various states as well as the entirety of the European Union" A few years ago when I had my deli quite close to the high court in the strand , a few of the high court judges would come in to pick up their breakfast between 6-7 am . Chatting to a judge one morning who said he was hearing a tricky case between a Chinese farm machinery manufacturer and a Brazilian importer . I asked him why is that being heard in London . He said most international contracts specified that any legal disputes must be heard in London . I asked why he said uk was the most highly respected and trustworthy legal system in the world
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Post by Davef on Feb 17, 2019 18:24:34 GMT
These are temporary measures issued by the EU before Christmas. That an MP has only just caught up with this and has had to rely on The Sun for his information tells you all you need to know.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 17, 2019 18:44:36 GMT
These are temporary measures issued by the EU before Christmas. That an MP has only just caught up with this and has had to rely on The Sun for his information tells you all you need to know. I don't know the entire context of the tweet Dave, He doesn't actually say that he had only just become aware, perhaps he is just repeating the point in the easiest way. Perhaps not. I do know what you mean about MPs not being in touch though. I think that they do suffer from the Westminster/ London centric bubble and really do not fully understand what's happening up north. I was really surprised, when I saw this video, that the Remainer Harriet Harman did not know who the important players were/ are in the EU. As you say, it says it all.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 17, 2019 18:51:02 GMT
These are temporary measures issued by the EU before Christmas. That an MP has only just caught up with this and has had to rely on The Sun for his information tells you all you need to know. I don't know the entire context of the tweet Dave, He doesn't actually say that he had only just become aware, perhaps he is just repeating the point in the easiest way. Perhaps not. I do know what you mean about MPs not being in touch though. I think that they do suffer from the Westminster/ London centric bubble and really do not fully understand what's happening up north. I was really surprised, when I saw this video, that the Remainer Harriet Harman did not know who the important players were/ are in the EU. As you say, it says it all. in a few weeks we won’t need to know
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 17, 2019 19:00:29 GMT
I don't know the entire context of the tweet Dave, He doesn't actually say that he had only just become aware, perhaps he is just repeating the point in the easiest way. Perhaps not. I do know what you mean about MPs not being in touch though. I think that they do suffer from the Westminster/ London centric bubble and really do not fully understand what's happening up north. I was really surprised, when I saw this video, that the Remainer Harriet Harman did not know who the important players were/ are in the EU. As you say, it says it all. in a few weeks we won’t need to know Hopefully, but I will be amazed if we leave under anything but the softest Brexit imaginable. It suits too many parties to stay in.
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Post by felonious on Feb 17, 2019 19:13:28 GMT
These are temporary measures issued by the EU before Christmas. That an MP has only just caught up with this and has had to rely on The Sun for his information tells you all you need to know. I don't know the entire context of the tweet Dave, He doesn't actually say that he had only just become aware, perhaps he is just repeating the point in the easiest way. Perhaps not. I do know what you mean about MPs not being in touch though. I think that they do suffer from the Westminster/ London centric bubble and really do not fully understand what's happening up north. I was really surprised, when I saw this video, that the Remainer Harriet Harman did not know who the important players were/ are in the EU. As you say, it says it all. Oggy's dream team
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 17, 2019 19:25:17 GMT
I don't know the entire context of the tweet Dave, He doesn't actually say that he had only just become aware, perhaps he is just repeating the point in the easiest way. Perhaps not. I do know what you mean about MPs not being in touch though. I think that they do suffer from the Westminster/ London centric bubble and really do not fully understand what's happening up north. I was really surprised, when I saw this video, that the Remainer Harriet Harman did not know who the important players were/ are in the EU. As you say, it says it all. Oggy's dream team Not very diverse as Isabel Oakeshott was saying , ethically nor gender.
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Post by felonious on Feb 17, 2019 19:29:50 GMT
Oggy's dream team Not very diverse as Isabel Oakeshott was saying , ethically nor gender. Like all the very best Politburos.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 18, 2019 10:35:14 GMT
He doesn't actually care about Ireland.
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Post by 4372 on Feb 18, 2019 10:50:01 GMT
Learn about "Soft Power" Oggy. The UK is just about the strongest nation on Earth when it comes to influence, shaping events, diplomatic links etc. We have better, stronger connections than just about anybody else and usually come top of "soft power indexes". Not second or third or tenth - TOP, above USA, China, Germany, France and all the rest of them. I think we've come top of two of the last four "Portland Soft Power" indexes (other winners were USA & France" and I seem to recall reading that something like 35 current Prime Ministers, Presidents or Royal Family heads were educated in Britain. While people like you are belittling how strong our nation actually is we are still a major player as far as culture, influence & power is concerned. Don't knock us, try supporting us instead. World Soft Power - UK Leads" Alongside the English language, English contract law is the most important and most used contract law in international business.London is the headquarters for four of the world's six largest law firms. The UK and more specifically London is a centre of international finance where foreign participants in financial markets come to deal with one another. It is headquarters for major international corporations, many of which choose to be listed on the London Stock Exchange.
Following the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in 2018, the UK responded with bilateral and multilateral diplomatic efforts that led to nations around the world expelling one hundred and fifty Russian diplomats, described by CNN as a "remarkable diplomatic coup for Britain". British prime minister Theresa May stated in parliament that the coordinated global response was the "largest collective expulsion of Russian intelligence officers in history." Subsequently, Russia attempted to attribute some of the influence to the United States, this was seen to be a propaganda exercise designed to damage the UK's international prestige and found to be untrue following statements by the various states as well as the entirety of the European Union" A few years ago when I had my deli quite close to the high court in the strand , a few of the high court judges would come in to pick up their breakfast between 6-7 am . Chatting to a judge one morning who said he was hearing a tricky case between a Chinese farm machinery manufacturer and a Brazilian importer . I asked him why is that being heard in London . He said most international contracts specified that any legal disputes must be heard in London . I asked why he said uk was the most highly respected and trustworthy legal system in the world Lol. You owned a shop with a German word as its heading ?
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 18, 2019 11:00:46 GMT
A few years ago when I had my deli quite close to the high court in the strand , a few of the high court judges would come in to pick up their breakfast between 6-7 am . Chatting to a judge one morning who said he was hearing a tricky case between a Chinese farm machinery manufacturer and a Brazilian importer . I asked him why is that being heard in London . He said most international contracts specified that any legal disputes must be heard in London . I asked why he said uk was the most highly respected and trustworthy legal system in the world Lol. You owned a shop with a German word as its heading ? Delicatessen is a German loanword which first appeared in English in the late 19th century and is the plural of Delikatesse.[1] The German form was lent from the French délicatesse, which itself was lent from Italian delicatezza, from delicato, of which the root word is the Latin adjective delicatus, meaning "giving pleasure, delightful, pleasing". It makes it sound like a knocking shop
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Post by 4372 on Feb 18, 2019 12:39:01 GMT
All very European then?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 18, 2019 12:51:01 GMT
Europe's a fantastically diverse and cultural gem , we need to protect it.
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Post by harryburrows on Feb 18, 2019 13:07:09 GMT
Lol. You owned a shop with a German word as its heading ? Delicatessen is a German loanword which first appeared in English in the late 19th century and is the plural of Delikatesse.[1] The German form was lent from the French délicatesse, which itself was lent from Italian delicatezza, from delicato, of which the root word is the Latin adjective delicatus, meaning "giving pleasure, delightful, pleasing". It makes it sound like a knocking shop Those business rates had to be paid 😁
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 18, 2019 20:10:35 GMT
Honda leaving Swindon. V sad days...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 18, 2019 21:50:19 GMT
Never mind those resignations old Jezzbollah will be right pissed off when he sees this.
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 18, 2019 22:12:34 GMT
Honda leaving Swindon. V sad days... Project fear becoming project fact?
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 18, 2019 22:19:49 GMT
Honda leaving Swindon. V sad days... Project fear becoming project fact? Nope - still project Fear. Honda's decision would have been the same with no Brexit. Why? Because the new EU trade deal with Japan sets export tariffs on cars to zero. So Honda is consolidating manufacture back in Japan. Fair enough. But nowt to do with Brexit.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 18, 2019 22:23:55 GMT
Project fear becoming project fact? Nope - still project Fear. Honda's decision would have been the same with no Brexit. Why? Because the new EU trade deal with Japan sets export tariffs on cars to zero. So Honda is consolidating manufacture back in Japan. Fair enough. But nowt to do with Brexit. Why is the EU making deals which potentially mean job losses all over the EU
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 18, 2019 22:24:18 GMT
What about the Nissan decision is that fear also?
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 18, 2019 22:27:15 GMT
Nope - still project Fear. Honda's decision would have been the same with no Brexit. Why? Because the new EU trade deal with Japan sets export tariffs on cars to zero. So Honda is consolidating manufacture back in Japan. Fair enough. But nowt to do with Brexit. Why is the EU making deals which potentially mean job losses all over the EU Actually it means job losses mostly in the UK and maybe more jobs in Germany who are less dependent on FDI for car production.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 18, 2019 22:29:40 GMT
What about the Nissan decision is that fear also? Do you live in a permanent state of fear? The Nissan decision is also nothing to do with Brexit. They have decided not to introduce production of a diesel vehicle because it ain't selling due to new emission regulations. Can I suggest you stop shitting yourself and actually have a look behind project fear stories.
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Post by Gods on Feb 18, 2019 22:42:15 GMT
What about the Nissan decision is that fear also? I won’t make my mind up until I’ve heard what some backbench Brexit bellend with no knowledge of Nissan or car manufacturing reckons.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Feb 19, 2019 6:24:51 GMT
Project fear becoming project fact? Nope - still project Fear. Honda's decision would have been the same with no Brexit. Why? Because the new EU trade deal with Japan sets export tariffs on cars to zero. So Honda is consolidating manufacture back in Japan. Fair enough. But nowt to do with Brexit. Well the motor industry 'expert' on the radio yesterday was in little doubt that Brexit was a factor- The decision on where to produce the next Civic from 2022 needed to be made now. The trade deal with the EU means tariff-free sales exports from Japan like you say, but there is no clarity on what the UK's position with either the EU or Japan will be by 2022 (or in April for that matter). Brexit has made the decision to abandon skills and capital in the UK a no-brainer.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 19, 2019 7:20:56 GMT
Nope - still project Fear. Honda's decision would have been the same with no Brexit. Why? Because the new EU trade deal with Japan sets export tariffs on cars to zero. So Honda is consolidating manufacture back in Japan. Fair enough. But nowt to do with Brexit. Well the motor industry 'expert' on the radio yesterday was in little doubt that Brexit was a factor- The decision on where to produce the next Civic from 2022 needed to be made now. The trade deal with the EU means tariff-free sales exports from Japan like you say, but there is no clarity on what the UK's position with either the EU or Japan will be by 2022 (or in April for that matter). Brexit has made the decision to abandon skills and capital in the UK a no-brainer. Production of the Civic from 2022 will, as I understood it, be in Japan as a consequence of the removal of import tarrifs for cars between the EU and Japan. This of course raises questions about the future of Nissan and Toyota exposing the complete dependence of our automotive industry on foreign owned companies. Worrying times ahead for that sector. But nowt to do with Brexit. (despite what "experts" say!).
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Post by salopstick on Feb 19, 2019 7:22:22 GMT
Well the motor industry 'expert' on the radio yesterday was in little doubt that Brexit was a factor- The decision on where to produce the next Civic from 2022 needed to be made now. The trade deal with the EU means tariff-free sales exports from Japan like you say, but there is no clarity on what the UK's position with either the EU or Japan will be by 2022 (or in April for that matter). Brexit has made the decision to abandon skills and capital in the UK a no-brainer. Production of the Civic from 2022 will, as I understood it, be in Japan as a consequence of the removal of import tarrifs for cars between the EU and Japan. This of course raises questions about the future of Nissan and Toyota exposing the complete dependence of our automotive industry on foreign owned companies. Worrying times ahead for that sector. But nowt to do with Brexit. (despite what "experts" say!). Brexit is a convenient excuse for many things nowadays.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 19, 2019 7:28:16 GMT
Production of the Civic from 2022 will, as I understood it, be in Japan as a consequence of the removal of import tarrifs for cars between the EU and Japan. This of course raises questions about the future of Nissan and Toyota exposing the complete dependence of our automotive industry on foreign owned companies. Worrying times ahead for that sector. But nowt to do with Brexit. (despite what "experts" say!). Brexit is a convenient excuse for many things nowadays. There will be Brexit related impacts - anyone who thinks Airbus will have a presence in the UK in 5 years time is deluding themselves (in the same way the SNP were fantasising about continued navy contracts for the Clyde if Scotland had become independent). But not everything is about Brexit - despite the media seemingly promoting a "Blame it on Brexit" message at every opportunity.
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Post by Northy on Feb 19, 2019 7:31:41 GMT
What about the Nissan decision is that fear also? Do you live in a permanent state of fear? The Nissan decision is also nothing to do with Brexit. They have decided not to introduce production of a diesel vehicle because it ain't selling due to new EU emission regulations. Can I suggest you stop shitting yourself and actually have a look behind project fear stories. Jut corrected it for you
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 19, 2019 7:34:51 GMT
Do you live in a permanent state of fear? The Nissan decision is also nothing to do with Brexit. They have decided not to introduce production of a diesel vehicle because it ain't selling due to new EU emission regulations. Can I suggest you stop shitting yourself and actually have a look behind project fear stories. Jut corrected it for you Sort of. I've no bones with the EU introducing emission regulations. Actually, I'm all for it. It's one of the things the EU can be very good for.
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