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Post by stokiejoe on May 22, 2017 16:46:31 GMT
Is there anyone who genuinely thinks he would be a good option? Better(ish) than Pardew​. Not me Nooooooo! Never please not Hope I have clarified my position
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 22, 2017 16:47:47 GMT
I don't think Man Utd,Real Sociedad and Sunderland fans would agree with you on that Pretty sure the Preston, Everton and non delusional Man Utd fans would actually. I didn't mention Preston or Everton because he did good jobs there but if you're trying to tell me he did ok at Man Utd your sadly mistaken for me.His stock has drastically fallen and for me a championship job is surely all he can expect right now?
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 22, 2017 16:51:09 GMT
Yep would rather have him than Hughes. Some people would rather have Jeanette Krankie than Hughes. Sign her(him?) up!!
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 22, 2017 16:54:16 GMT
Pretty sure the Preston, Everton and non delusional Man Utd fans would actually. I didn't mention Preston or Everton because he did good jobs there but if you're trying to tell me he did ok at Man Utd your sadly mistaken for me.His stock has drastically fallen and for me a championship job is surely all he can expect right now? Would you take van Gaal or Mourinho?
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 22, 2017 16:54:36 GMT
The fact he's knocked back his compo suggests to me that he's been tipped the wink about another job. PLEASE GOD NOT US. Get on it, Sheiky!
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 22, 2017 16:55:09 GMT
The fact he's knocked back his compo suggests to me that he's been tipped the wink about another job. PLEASE GOD NOT US. Can't be any worse.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 22, 2017 16:55:31 GMT
I didn't mention Preston or Everton because he did good jobs there but if you're trying to tell me he did ok at Man Utd your sadly mistaken for me.His stock has drastically fallen and for me a championship job is surely all he can expect right now? Would you take van Gaal or Mourinho? No but it's not a realistic question because we both know it would never happen
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Post by adi on May 22, 2017 16:56:10 GMT
I actually thought you were on about Pardew. I wouldn't go near either.... I think we could do better, but Moyes isn't a bad manager at all. Nobody would've kept Sunderland up. I think pulis or big Sam would've.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 16:56:48 GMT
He's 100% a Coates man and was one of the first managers to embrace a stats based transfer recruitment strategy at Everton, so will fit in like a glove with the way our club is going. Spent relatively little at Everton and turned over a transfer profit. Another tick in the box.
When's this meeting with the hierarchy?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 22, 2017 16:57:40 GMT
Would you take van Gaal or Mourinho? No but it's not a realistic question because we both know it would never happen Moyes has done just as well at Man Utd than Mourinho and van Gaal, I wouldn't really call it a failure.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 22, 2017 16:59:47 GMT
No but it's not a realistic question because we both know it would never happen Moyes has done just as well at Man Utd than Mourinho and van Gaal, I wouldn't really call it a failure. Why did he win a trophy there?And by the way I'm not saying he's a bad manager but he's surely got to prove himsen again before a prem job is coming his way?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 17:00:29 GMT
Did very well at Everton over a sustained period of time, I wouldn't be against it, still prefer big Sam though. And Preston . I thought he would in time be a good fit . The Man Utd job wasn't right for him, but who wouldn't have taken it. Even though he's no Fergie, his points tally wasn't bad, but following Fergie's rein, he was always going to fail. As have Giggs, Mourhino and Van Gaal. The Man Utd job then his time in Spain has been tough, but still think there's a decent manager in him. But as I said, I'd prefer Big Sam though.
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Post by RAF on May 22, 2017 17:01:34 GMT
I don't think Man Utd,Real Sociedad and Sunderland fans would agree with you on that Pretty sure the Preston, Everton and non delusional Man Utd fans would actually. Is there such a beast as a non delusional Man Utd fan? I've never heard of one. H
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 22, 2017 17:01:39 GMT
Moyes has done just as well at Man Utd than Mourinho and van Gaal, I wouldn't really call it a failure. Why did he win a trophy there?And by the way I'm not saying he's a bad manager but he's surely got to prove himsen again before a prem job is coming his way? I don't think he has to prove anything. I'm sure there will be a number of clubs after him.
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Post by chad on May 22, 2017 17:02:23 GMT
Nah. It a testament to him being fucking useless
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 22, 2017 17:08:11 GMT
No but it's not a realistic question because we both know it would never happen Moyes has done just as well at Man Utd than Mourinho and van Gaal, I wouldn't really call it a failure. No he didn't. He took over the Champions and was 7th when he was sacked. The others didn't do brilliantly but LVG got them back into the Champions League and won a trophy. Mourinho has underachieved this season yet is still probably going to finish with two trophies and Champions League football. Meanwhile Moyes had Rio Ferdinand watching videos of Phil Jagielka and instructing his players to just repeatedly cross the ball into the box and not a lot else. The club was too big for him. And as brilliantly as he did at Everton, and he really did an excellent job, he's failed in his last three jobs and looks very much shot as a top level manager. Sometimes managers are past their sell by date, just like players.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 22, 2017 17:11:27 GMT
Moyes has done just as well at Man Utd than Mourinho and van Gaal, I wouldn't really call it a failure. No he didn't. He took over the Champions and was 7th when he was sacked. The others didn't do brilliantly but LVG got them back into the Champions League and won a trophy. Mourinho has underachieved this season yet is still probably going to finish with two trophies and Champions League football. Meanwhile Moyes had Rio Ferdinand watching videos of Phil Jagielka and instructing his players to just repeatedly cross the ball into the box and not a lot else. The club was too big for him. And as brilliantly as he did at Everton, and he really did an excellent job, he's failed in his last three jobs and looks very much shot as a top level manager. Sometimes managers are past their sell by date, just like players. He took over a declining squad in his first season at a big job. His win % is similar to Jose and van Gaal. I'm confident he would've taken them further.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 17:16:59 GMT
The fact he's knocked back his compo suggests to me that he's been tipped the wink about another job. PLEASE GOD NOT US. Can't be any worse. Keep going. If you say it all often enough it might happen ....
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 17:17:27 GMT
Quick look at his club management record screams no ta. Done well with Wales. With the exception of loveshimselfwouldntlooktwiceatStoke Rodgers British managers are depressing choices To clarify I was still taking the piss. IF Hughes was to go I'd be tempted by Dr Josef Venglos the bloke has unfinished business in this league.... Venglos?! Are you mad? Coates doesn't do foreign.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 22, 2017 17:19:53 GMT
No he didn't. He took over the Champions and was 7th when he was sacked. The others didn't do brilliantly but LVG got them back into the Champions League and won a trophy. Mourinho has underachieved this season yet is still probably going to finish with two trophies and Champions League football. Meanwhile Moyes had Rio Ferdinand watching videos of Phil Jagielka and instructing his players to just repeatedly cross the ball into the box and not a lot else. The club was too big for him. And as brilliantly as he did at Everton, and he really did an excellent job, he's failed in his last three jobs and looks very much shot as a top level manager. Sometimes managers are past their sell by date, just like players. He took over a declining squad in his first season at a big job. His win % is similar to Jose and van Gaal. I'm confident he would've taken them further. He couldn't take Everton further, let alone Man Utd. It was a declining squad, yeah - but not that much. It was still good enough for the top four. He made cock-up after cock-up there. Again, he's flopped in three jobs now, was that all just down to bad luck and circumstance? Mr Bean wasn't that unlucky.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 22, 2017 17:20:24 GMT
Keep going. If you say it all often enough it might happen ....
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Post by riccyfuller93 on May 22, 2017 17:22:34 GMT
He took over a declining squad in his first season at a big job. His win % is similar to Jose and van Gaal. I'm confident he would've taken them further. He couldn't take Everton further, let alone Man Utd. It was a declining squad, yeah - but not that much. It was still good enough for the top four. He made cock-up after cock-up there. Again, he's flopped in three jobs now, was that all just down to bad luck and circumstance? Mr Bean wasn't that unlucky. Sunderland were doomed anyway. I think in Spain he just wanted to get away and try something new. Still a better manager than Hughes.
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Post by djduncanjames on May 22, 2017 17:22:38 GMT
Watch them appoint Zola
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 22, 2017 17:34:43 GMT
He couldn't take Everton further, let alone Man Utd. It was a declining squad, yeah - but not that much. It was still good enough for the top four. He made cock-up after cock-up there. Again, he's flopped in three jobs now, was that all just down to bad luck and circumstance? Mr Bean wasn't that unlucky. Sunderland were doomed anyway. I think in Spain he just wanted to get away and try something new. Still a better manager than Hughes. Sunderland weren't doomed last season were they? And they then retained all of their key players and Moyes was allowed to spend more in the summer than Hughes was? I think there was an argument he was an equal or superior manager to Hughes at one time. That time has passed.
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Post by djduncanjames on May 22, 2017 17:54:02 GMT
Sunderland were doomed anyway. I think in Spain he just wanted to get away and try something new. Still a better manager than Hughes. Sunderland weren't doomed last season were they? And they then retained all of their key players and Moyes was allowed to spend more in the summer than Hughes was? I think there was an argument he was an equal or superior manager to Hughes at one time. That time has passed. I'm quoting you because your avatar and name is amazing carry on
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Post by duckling on May 22, 2017 19:22:11 GMT
If I had to guess, his next job will be Scotland.
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Post by robstokie on May 22, 2017 19:34:50 GMT
Id rather keep Sparky to be honest. Moyes was a good manager, his record at Everton is testament to that, and I could see why Coatesy might be interested (He wants to build Stoke in an Everton-style mould and Moyes did build that club up) but I feel he has lost his way since losing the Man Utd job.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 22, 2017 19:41:54 GMT
Some Stoke fans actually want Moyes in to replace Hughes?.. fuck me !!! Hughes has been a bit toss for 18 months but Moyes?! Really?! I'd rather give Hughes another contract than see him get the job.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 20:15:22 GMT
To clarify I was still taking the piss. IF Hughes was to go I'd be tempted by Dr Josef Venglos the bloke has unfinished business in this league.... Venglos?! Are you mad? Coates doesn't do foreign. He was misunderstood at Villa, and those in the know credit Celtic's record breaking season to Venglos for laying the foundations back in 1998/99. One of the brightest coaches in world football, they don't just give the Crystal Wing Award for Sport to any Tom, Dick or Harry you know....
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Post by FullerMagic on May 22, 2017 20:31:42 GMT
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