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Post by swampySCFC on May 10, 2017 22:04:53 GMT
Not like those scouse cunts to make their interest public
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Post by kjpt140v on May 10, 2017 22:26:03 GMT
I'm always positive about the team and refuse to criticise any player or manager but if Ramadan goes then, for me, it will prove that we are not building for the future and just existing from match to match. I will regret buying my early bird and certainly will not buy for 2018/19 unless we have a miracle season 2017/18. The point of being a supporter is dreaming that one day the team you love will be the best, if our club officials don't have that dream what's the point of spending over a thousand pound a year when you could pick and choose your games. I'm happy with our teams progress since promotion, I agree this season has been a disappointment but shit happens but to lose such a talented player would be a sign that further progress is not part of a long term plan. great post by a young un ! I'm 58!!!!! Followed Stoke since 1968!!!! But I love your comment, thanks. I love you xxxx
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 10, 2017 22:43:44 GMT
The only valid reason that Hughes can have for not playing Ramadan is that he believes Arnie is the better player and that Arnie is better on the left and that Ramadan cannot perform better than Shaqiri on the right either. He also obviously doesn't believe that Shaqiri can play the number ten role either so that means no room for Ramadan since Shaqiri got himself fit again. For Ramadan to get as little game time as he has since he came in and did so well is still strange as fuck even taking those reasons above into account. Do you agree with those reasons though? I do. So I can see where Hughes is coming from. People who think he has something against Ramadan or that he doesn't rate him are being silly. I do think Shaq in the #10 role is well worth a shot, but Hughes obviously has other ideas. It's a shame for Ramadan, but it's not uncommon or earth shattering. Unfortunately those other ideas are Allen in the number 10 role
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Post by Dr Hesham on May 11, 2017 3:25:37 GMT
This newspaper was the first English one to talk about Ramadans transfer to Stoke BUT..
Frankly speaking, I think they want to have a viral topic in Egypt with millions of visitors to their website to earn some money from ads and to get better rank in Alexa and so on, from a marketing point of view they can gain from Ramadan alot while Stoke cant.
On the other hand, I am sure Ramadan will be something great in Europe, whole Egypt was talking about Ramadan when he was 15-16 years old, we have for example Salah, El Neny, El Mohamady ... etc. but Ramadan is different cause he is a potential big star who can be better than all of them by a mile if he is playing regularly but unfortunately he is mistreated.
In case these news are true I dont know what is better for Ramadan but worst case scenario he will be on the bench for Liverpool while he is already on the bench for Stoke, Liverpool will have more games cause they are going to play in the champions league "mostly".
I dont know but If Ramadan is asking for my advice, he should stay in Stoke for at least 1 more season in case Mr Hughes can promise him with more participation or in case Mr Hughes is going to leave.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on May 11, 2017 4:03:23 GMT
The perfect way to destroy any ideas that next season will be any different.
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Post by sevvy on May 11, 2017 10:08:48 GMT
The only valid reason that Hughes can have for not playing Ramadan is that he believes Arnie is the better player and that Arnie is better on the left and that Ramadan cannot perform better than Shaqiri on the right either. He also obviously doesn't believe that Shaqiri can play the number ten role either so that means no room for Ramadan since Shaqiri got himself fit again. For Ramadan to get as little game time as he has since he came in and did so well is still strange as fuck even taking those reasons above into account. How about trying Arnie as No10? Ramadan left, shaq right. Arnie is strong , has an eye for a pass and can link well with berahino? Worth a try?
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 11, 2017 10:57:22 GMT
The only valid reason that Hughes can have for not playing Ramadan is that he believes Arnie is the better player and that Arnie is better on the left and that Ramadan cannot perform better than Shaqiri on the right either. He also obviously doesn't believe that Shaqiri can play the number ten role either so that means no room for Ramadan since Shaqiri got himself fit again. For Ramadan to get as little game time as he has since he came in and did so well is still strange as fuck even taking those reasons above into account. How about trying Arnie as No10? Ramadan left, shaq right. Arnie is strong , has an eye for a pass and can link well with berahino? Worth a try? That's a possibility, or at least give Arnie and Shaq license to swap during the game. That would be the only way of getting Sobhi in I guess. That and bringing in two new central midfielders who would offer more security in the middle and allow our three amigos to flourish!
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 11:46:31 GMT
The only valid reason that Hughes can have for not playing Ramadan is that he believes Arnie is the better player and that Arnie is better on the left and that Ramadan cannot perform better than Shaqiri on the right either. He also obviously doesn't believe that Shaqiri can play the number ten role either so that means no room for Ramadan since Shaqiri got himself fit again. For Ramadan to get as little game time as he has since he came in and did so well is still strange as fuck even taking those reasons above into account. How about trying Arnie as No10? Ramadan left, shaq right. Arnie is strong , has an eye for a pass and can link well with berahino? Worth a try? Any of the two options of Shaqiri and Arnie would probably be better than Allen playing there but it's square pegs and round holes again for me. I've got a novel idea, don't let your best/only number 10 fuck off to Germany for 6 months when you have one of the least creative forward lines in the league.
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Post by damagedswan on May 11, 2017 12:43:29 GMT
How about trying Arnie as No10? Ramadan left, shaq right. Arnie is strong , has an eye for a pass and can link well with berahino? Worth a try? Any of the two options of Shaqiri and Arnie would probably be better than Allen playing there but it's square pegs and round holes again for me. I've got a novel idea, don't let your best/only number 10 fuck off to Germany for 6 months when you have one of the least creative forward lines in the league. shaqiri has quite considerable experience of playing number 10 doesn't he? i've certainly seen him play there for switzerland.
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Post by lordb on May 11, 2017 12:43:32 GMT
How about trying Arnie as No10? Ramadan left, shaq right. Arnie is strong , has an eye for a pass and can link well with berahino? Worth a try? Any of the two options of Shaqiri and Arnie would probably be better than Allen playing there but it's square pegs and round holes again for me. I've got a novel idea, don't let your best/only number 10 fuck off to Germany for 6 months when you have one of the least creative forward lines in the league. I think Shaq is our best number 10 he's also our bets number 7 Bojan was played all last summer,looked fit & sharp & then when the real thing started he was really poor He had one good game (really good mind) v Leicester when we threw away a 2.0 lead & had a mixed game at Chelsea & then was appalling (not the only one) in that cup match v Wolves his loan move hasn't really been a massive success either If we can get Bojan back firing again that would be fantastic
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 17:14:14 GMT
Any of the two options of Shaqiri and Arnie would probably be better than Allen playing there but it's square pegs and round holes again for me. I've got a novel idea, don't let your best/only number 10 fuck off to Germany for 6 months when you have one of the least creative forward lines in the league. I think Shaq is our best number 10 he's also our bets number 7 Bojan was played all last summer,looked fit & sharp & then when the real thing started he was really poor He had one good game (really good mind) v Leicester when we threw away a 2.0 lead & had a mixed game at Chelsea & then was appalling (not the only one) in that cup match v Wolves his loan move hasn't really been a massive success either If we can get Bojan back firing again that would be fantastic I'm not sure how you can come to the conclusion that Shaqiri is our best number 10 when he's never played there for us.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 11, 2017 17:28:35 GMT
I think Shaq is our best number 10 he's also our bets number 7 Bojan was played all last summer,looked fit & sharp & then when the real thing started he was really poor He had one good game (really good mind) v Leicester when we threw away a 2.0 lead & had a mixed game at Chelsea & then was appalling (not the only one) in that cup match v Wolves his loan move hasn't really been a massive success either If we can get Bojan back firing again that would be fantastic I'm not sure how you can come to the conclusion that Shaqiri is our best number 10 when he's never played there for us. I agree and for me I think he'd be knocked about and stifled in a no.10, there really would be no quick long ball pressure release option. He's looking more tenacious and gritty but I fear in the middle he'd be continually knocked off his feet. He rarely properly takes on a man I reckon he'd be useless at finding a way through a wall of men. Also, it's a guess but we'd end up with him more injured if he was to start in the middle. No need to switch him from that right side cutting in and finding space, not getting enough games out of him has been one of the season definers. If it was about accommodating Ramadan then Arnie would be the best equipped 10 imo..
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 17:41:05 GMT
I'm not sure how you can come to the conclusion that Shaqiri is our best number 10 when he's never played there for us. I agree and for me I think he'd be knocked about and stifled in a no.10, there really would be no quick long ball pressure release option. He's looking more tenacious and gritty but I fear in the middle he'd be continually knocked off his feet. He rarely properly takes on a man I reckon he'd be useless at finding a way through a wall of men. Also, it's a guess but we'd end up with him more injured if he was to start in the middle. No need to switch him from that right side cutting in and finding space, not getting enough games out of him has been one of the season definers. If it was about accommodating Ramadan then Arnie would be the best equipped 10 imo.. I agree with the Shaq parts, but I'm not sure about Arnie as number ten. It was tried a while ago as i recall and he didn't look particularly comfortable, as with Shaqiri I think Arnie needs more time and space on the ball than a number ten gets.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 11, 2017 17:50:38 GMT
I agree and for me I think he'd be knocked about and stifled in a no.10, there really would be no quick long ball pressure release option. He's looking more tenacious and gritty but I fear in the middle he'd be continually knocked off his feet. He rarely properly takes on a man I reckon he'd be useless at finding a way through a wall of men. Also, it's a guess but we'd end up with him more injured if he was to start in the middle. No need to switch him from that right side cutting in and finding space, not getting enough games out of him has been one of the season definers. If it was about accommodating Ramadan then Arnie would be the best equipped 10 imo.. I agree with the Shaq parts, but I'm not sure about Arnie as number ten. It was tried a while ago as i recall and he didn't look particularly comfortable, as with Shaqiri I think Arnie needs more time and space on the ball than a number ten gets. It's a bit theoretical without seeing it in action for us. Arnie was played more of a striker I think, not with someone in front of him. I do think Arnie can operate in tight spaces, he kind of relishes that, arse out, get it if you can approach. He's really unselfish and ace at threading a ball, shit at shooting. He's fantastically mobile and drifts about anyway, I just think {after seeing him over the years} he's weaker on the right and it seems more teams and right backs are getting the measure of him. Having said that he's ace, a starter, a fresh challenge, closer to Shaq on the pitch might unlock summat. Great players but no denying we've been lacking in getting the thing in the net.
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Post by ElworthPotter on May 11, 2017 18:01:11 GMT
If Ramadan goes I'm done with Hughes (actually, I'm already done with Hughes, so I'll be even more done with him). In the games he's played this season he's been bloody brilliant. And I don't mean he's been 'good considering its his first season in English football', I mean he's looked right at home and been our best player in some of the games he's played. He's taken on his man, created chances, created goals, tracked back, worked hard and showed he has an excellent football brain. Yes I can see why Shaq came back in after his injury, but to not give Ramadan half an hour here and there since then is a disgrace.
I honestly believe Ramadan Shaq and Arnie as a 3 behind Berahino would run riot against some teams and I cant for the life of me work out why Hughes is so against playing him after he dd so well when he came in.
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