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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 16:54:46 GMT
BOTH Sobhi and Salah? Liverpool would have some Pharoah'd wingers if that happened.
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Post by scfcmacca on May 10, 2017 16:57:24 GMT
What I'm suggesting is imbula and Allen start together and be defensive midfielders. We could swap imbula out for a more traditional defensive midfielder And what I said originally was that Imbula and Allen would never work and we'll never see that pairing. If Imbula doesn't make the bench on Saturday he's gone (which I think he has, to be honest). We're just keeping him injury free until he gets sold or goes out on a season loan. I think they could work but I agree he's gone anyway.
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Post by redwhitesingfight on May 10, 2017 16:58:05 GMT
I've supported Mark Hughes since his arrival. Not playing Sobhi is irrational. The one player Stoke supporters want to see. Can't understand it.
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Post by fulagoals on May 10, 2017 17:03:02 GMT
If we let him go, Hughes can fuck off. He can fuck off anyway, but if this happens he can come back just so he can fuck off again. That actually made me giggle out loud!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 17:04:04 GMT
The only valid reason that Hughes can have for not playing Ramadan is that he believes Arnie is the better player and that Arnie is better on the left and that Ramadan cannot perform better than Shaqiri on the right either. He also obviously doesn't believe that Shaqiri can play the number ten role either so that means no room for Ramadan since Shaqiri got himself fit again.
For Ramadan to get as little game time as he has since he came in and did so well is still strange as fuck even taking those reasons above into account.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 10, 2017 17:05:52 GMT
We can always play Walters on the wing if/when Shaq or Arnie get injured, so I wouldn't worry too much about Ramadan going 😉 Don't think Mark hasn't already thought of this Phil!!!
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Post by nott1 on May 10, 2017 17:31:28 GMT
This is a clear enough warning to Hughes to get the lad in the team now or Sobhi will be gone forever!
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Post by crownmeking on May 10, 2017 17:39:05 GMT
The only valid reason that Hughes can have for not playing Ramadan is that he believes Arnie is the better player and that Arnie is better on the left and that Ramadan cannot perform better than Shaqiri on the right either. He also obviously doesn't believe that Shaqiri can play the number ten role either so that means no room for Ramadan since Shaqiri got himself fit again. For Ramadan to get as little game time as he has since he came in and did so well is still strange as fuck even taking those reasons above into account. Do you agree with those reasons though? I do. So I can see where Hughes is coming from. People who think he has something against Ramadan or that he doesn't rate him are being silly. I do think Shaq in the #10 role is well worth a shot, but Hughes obviously has other ideas. It's a shame for Ramadan, but it's not uncommon or earth shattering.
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Post by crownmeking on May 10, 2017 17:39:47 GMT
This is a clear enough warning to Hughes to get the lad in the team now or Sobhi will be gone forever! I don't think Hughes is going to be held hostage like that mate.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 17:42:08 GMT
The only valid reason that Hughes can have for not playing Ramadan is that he believes Arnie is the better player and that Arnie is better on the left and that Ramadan cannot perform better than Shaqiri on the right either. He also obviously doesn't believe that Shaqiri can play the number ten role either so that means no room for Ramadan since Shaqiri got himself fit again. For Ramadan to get as little game time as he has since he came in and did so well is still strange as fuck even taking those reasons above into account. Do you agree with those reasons though? I do. So I can see where Hughes is coming from. People who think he has something against Ramadan or that he doesn't rate him are being silly. I do think Shaq in the #10 role is well worth a shot, but Hughes obviously has other ideas. It's a shame for Ramadan, but it's not uncommon or earth shattering. To be honest I probably do and I think Shaqiri's form since coming back has proved Hughes right. What I can't understand is his lack of game time from the bench when Arnie has been having a few absolute shockers.
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Post by ozy2002 on May 10, 2017 17:44:08 GMT
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Post by nott1 on May 10, 2017 17:47:33 GMT
This is a clear enough warning to Hughes to get the lad in the team now or Sobhi will be gone forever! I don't think Hughes is going to be held hostage like that mate. I don't see why Shaq is not put in at no. ten and Sobhi on the wing opp. Arnie. Why can't Hughes see this?
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Post by crownmeking on May 10, 2017 17:48:39 GMT
Do you agree with those reasons though? I do. So I can see where Hughes is coming from. People who think he has something against Ramadan or that he doesn't rate him are being silly. I do think Shaq in the #10 role is well worth a shot, but Hughes obviously has other ideas. It's a shame for Ramadan, but it's not uncommon or earth shattering. To be honest I probably do and I think Shaqiri's form since coming back has proved Hughes right. What I can't understand is his lack of game time from the bench when Arnie has been having a few absolute shockers. Yeah, I agree with you mate. I wonder if Hughes feels more pressure to keep Arnie happy with game time, than Ramadan. Also, as good as Ramadan has been, I would always feel a goal is more likely to come with Arnie on the pitch.
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Post by jeycov on May 10, 2017 17:48:46 GMT
The only valid reason that Hughes can have for not playing Ramadan is that he believes Arnie is the better player and that Arnie is better on the left and that Ramadan cannot perform better than Shaqiri on the right either. He also obviously doesn't believe that Shaqiri can play the number ten role either so that means no room for Ramadan since Shaqiri got himself fit again. For Ramadan to get as little game time as he has since he came in and did so well is still strange as fuck even taking those reasons above into account. Do you agree with those reasons though? I do. So I can see where Hughes is coming from. People who think he has something against Ramadan or that he doesn't rate him are being silly. I do think Shaq in the #10 role is well worth a shot, but Hughes obviously has other ideas. It's a shame for Ramadan, but it's not uncommon or earth shattering. Atm Shaqiri is staying injury free - maybe a surprise to MH - so will start MH has tried Arnie on the right when Shaqiri was out and I don't think that Arnie was too impressed? Or maybe he's not confident that Shaqiri will be here next season? We are now mathematically safe - this may have been an important factor in playing more experienced players If MH gives Ramadan, N'Goy, ... the chance to play in the last 2 matches, he will we praised for doing so if it's a success or get a negative response if we fail to gain points and the finance that goes with it We may lose both games with his preferred experienced 11 anyway Could Ramadan play up front with Saido? Who knows!
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Post by crownmeking on May 10, 2017 17:49:41 GMT
I don't think Hughes is going to be held hostage like that mate. I don't see why Shaq is not put in at no. ten and Sobhi on the wing opp. Arnie. Why can't Hughes see this? It's a good question, and I would like to see it.
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Post by crownmeking on May 10, 2017 17:52:54 GMT
Could this Ramadan wanted by Liverpool story be his agent trying to push for regular game time for him at Stoke?
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Post by ozy2002 on May 10, 2017 18:12:13 GMT
Now. I think There is a big plan inside the closed room There are many options here , remember guys that Ramadan played against the big teams Liverpool , Chelsea , Tottenham. LCT city And he played very well , so if you drop him after that on easy matches , this is big question Especially if the lad is not naughty , and saido just said that he and Ramadan are always the last players who go home from training And he is working very hard ,so there is big reason for him to be dropped out Maybe MH want to calm down other clubs who may show interest in him this transfer market , because also this can take the boy concentration So let put him down in the last 7 games of the seasons , and clubs will forget him Maybe there is a deal is prepared between stoke and Liverpool to swap some players from Liverpool with him And he dropped him down , because the fans will get angry if he will leave before playing few season with stoke Also guys from what I know as Roma wanted to find replacement for Mohamed Salah , and the option was shaqiri So maybe stoke wanted to play shaqiri to get higher price of him before selling Also maybe arni can leave too with big bid , so in this case they wanted him to play so the price will be higher And keep sobhi in the fridge for while , we will need him next season Another point is , there was big Egyptian roumers that Liverpool is interested to left winger trezgeut who plays in anderkhet , he is international and very good player too And Dr hisham posted some clips about him , so if this is true then they don't need sobhi , but who knows , they maybe found sobhi better than him At least you already tested him with big teams and he was the best player in stoke And I think Liverpool also maybe interested in Salah because they wanted him before Chelsea and already give him offer So if Salah went to Liverpool then definitely shaqiri will leave to Roma
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Post by eastyorksexile on May 10, 2017 18:25:24 GMT
Kin ell, I think we all need to take deep breath and fk all of these rumours and conspiracy theories not touch, let's all get back to reality and enjoy what we have done for years, pain and pleasure, that is what football is all about......
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 19:16:22 GMT
To be honest I probably do and I think Shaqiri's form since coming back has proved Hughes right. What I can't understand is his lack of game time from the bench when Arnie has been having a few absolute shockers. Yeah, I agree with you mate. I wonder if Hughes feels more pressure to keep Arnie happy with game time, than Ramadan. Also, as good as Ramadan has been, I would always feel a goal is more likely to come with Arnie on the pitch. I don't know what Hughes is thinking to be honest but he should never feel that he can't take off a player or leave a player out if he's not doing the business. I love Arnie but I believe Hughes should have fetched him off in both of the last two home games and given Ramadan a go, so even though I agree with him that Shaqiri and Arnie are our first choice wide men (as it stands), I can also see why fans are completely pissed off with Ramadans lack if game time.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 19:24:49 GMT
Why on earth would he want to go there ? - he'll only end up stuck on the bench
--------------------------- errr --- ummm ---ooops
and hes the most promising youngster I' ve seen at Stoke for many many, years - absolutely no surprise bigger clubs are looking at him
pity our manager has a mental block about playing him
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Post by kjpt140v on May 10, 2017 19:27:51 GMT
I'm always positive about the team and refuse to criticise any player or manager but if Ramadan goes then, for me, it will prove that we are not building for the future and just existing from match to match. I will regret buying my early bird and certainly will not buy for 2018/19 unless we have a miracle season 2017/18.
The point of being a supporter is dreaming that one day the team you love will be the best, if our club officials don't have that dream what's the point of spending over a thousand pound a year when you could pick and choose your games. I'm happy with our teams progress since promotion, I agree this season has been a disappointment but shit happens but to lose such a talented player would be a sign that further progress is not part of a long term plan.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 19:47:16 GMT
I'm always positive about the team and refuse to criticise any player or manager but if Ramadan goes then, for me, it will prove that we are not building for the future and just existing from match to match. I will regret buying my early bird and certainly will not buy for 2018/19 unless we have a miracle season 2017/18. The point of being a supporter is dreaming that one day the team you love will be the best, if our club officials don't have that dream what's the point of spending over a thousand pound a year when you could pick and choose your games. I'm happy with our teams progress since promotion, I agree this season has been a disappointment but shit happens but to lose such a talented player would be a sign that further progress is not part of a long term plan. great post by a young un !
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 10, 2017 19:49:55 GMT
Why on earth would he want to go there ? - he'll only end up stuck on the bench --------------------------- errr --- ummm ---ooops and hes the most promising youngster I' ve seen at Stoke for many many, years - absolutely no surprise bigger clubs are looking at him pity our manager has a mental block about playing him Spot on, sir. Rammers will be bigger than Arnie and Shaq in years to come, and is an obvious natural talent. It's criminal Hughes can't fit him into the side; he's easily good enough to feature regularly.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 19:52:22 GMT
its 'hard wiring' problem with our managers head - the total fuckwitt thinks he cant play Shaq Arnie and Ramadonna together in the same 11
FUCKING IDIOT !
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Post by superheroantonius on May 10, 2017 20:15:55 GMT
If he goes to Liverpool he won't be sitting on the bench Klopp wants forwards who will run all day and play a high press For that system sobhi is a dream
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Post by xchpotter on May 10, 2017 20:26:38 GMT
Fuck knows what's going on...conspiracy theories galore. It's just a pity we don't have a local media with some balls asking the searching questions. Whilst I would not want the manager to break confidentiality, the right question and a limited response can still give us a good idea rather than second guessing.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 10, 2017 20:51:05 GMT
At a bare minimum I'd want a swap with sakho.
We'll probably just swap him for moreno.
But yes, sobhi is a huge talent and what surprised me was his strength and speed. Exactly what klopp likes, and seemingly what hughes doesnt like
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Post by jeycov on May 10, 2017 21:01:44 GMT
If he goes to Liverpool he won't be sitting on the bench Klopp wants forwards who will run all day and play a high press For that system sobhi is a dream And he's not afraid to play youngsters in big games
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Post by trigger on May 10, 2017 21:05:53 GMT
Given Arnie's form of late Ram should have been straight in the squad or at least coming on to replace him.
Moses did exactly the same and Arnie came back a better player.
Hughes needs to go ASAP for his treatment of Ram and his pathetic attempt at management.
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Post by crapslinger on May 10, 2017 21:17:18 GMT
Kin ell, I think we all need to take deep breath and fk all of these rumours and conspiracy theories not touch, let's all get back to reality and enjoy what we have done for years, pain and pleasure, that is what football is all about...... Correct and it sure as hell is not about been bored shitless most weeks watching a bunch of old men plodding about the pitch.
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