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Post by muglump on Apr 22, 2017 22:05:06 GMT
that he might actually be crap. He looks really awful and I can't see one of our on the beach pre seasons doing much to pep him up. I don't like having a go at players but I am really worried. Am I wrong to be?
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Post by liamo on Apr 22, 2017 22:08:25 GMT
He's not a lone striker, the rest of the squad aren't suited to a 4-4-2
All in all he's a 10 on the Mark Hughes scale of "we'll squeeze him in somewhere" signings
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 22, 2017 22:10:24 GMT
He's coming closer and closer to scoring. Have to take into account the problems he had at West Brom and now coming into a Stoke side where we create fuck all.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 22, 2017 22:10:32 GMT
The two headers today were piss poor , he shouldn't play again this season . He is way off the pace required .
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Post by DentySCFC on Apr 22, 2017 22:14:59 GMT
Given that his strengths are supposedly his finishing and movement, he missed two sitters today and was mostly stationery today.
Think Tone's sold us a dud.
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Post by protti on Apr 22, 2017 22:16:56 GMT
A thought that struck me is. It's 11 games now without a goal. If Diouf had the chance to play that many, would he do any worse?
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 22, 2017 22:19:21 GMT
He's coming closer and closer to scoring. Have to take into account the problems he had at West Brom and now coming into a Stoke side where we create fuck all. He missed two sitters today take those rose tinted specs. off, he's been here the best part of four months and scored the square rate of fuck all created the square root of fuck all not like he has moved here from abroad like Gabbadini is it ? |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 22, 2017 22:20:56 GMT
Given that his strengths are supposedly his finishing and movement, he missed two sitters today and was mostly stationery today. Think Tone's sold us a dud. Tbf to Jurassic Tone he did warn us just saying, appears that for once he was telling the truth  |
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 22, 2017 22:23:00 GMT
Given that his strengths are supposedly his finishing and movement, he missed two sitters today and was mostly stationery today. Think Tone's sold us a dud. Yea that's why they wouldn't sell him for window after window, and offered him a new contract; they were trying to hide him from the rest of the world because he is no good. (Irony) Give me strength; the faith and support of some Stoke supporters.  |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 22, 2017 22:23:17 GMT
The two headers today were piss poor , he shouldn't play again this season . He is way off the pace required .
Berahino has always been 'piss poor' in the air, we knew this when we signed him.
He has to play in every game left this season as we (at least) start to attempt to play to his strengths, if he we don't, then we might as well give up on him (and the manager as well).
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Post by prudhoe on Apr 22, 2017 22:24:53 GMT
Scores no goals, scores no goals berahino,
Scores no goals, scores no goals up front.
Scores no goals, scores no goals berahino,
I think we've signed a useless cunt!
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Post by DentySCFC on Apr 22, 2017 22:26:10 GMT
Given that his strengths are supposedly his finishing and movement, he missed two sitters today and was mostly stationery today. Think Tone's sold us a dud. Yea that's why they wouldn't sell him for window after window, and offered him a new contract; they were trying to hide him from the rest of the world because he is no good. (Irony) Give me strength; the faith and support of some Stoke supporters. The talk of a new contract was just to ensure they got the best transfer fee possible as Pulis clearly didn't rate him. |
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Post by march4 on Apr 22, 2017 22:27:39 GMT
I had the same feeling about;
David Gregory
Paul Cook
Tony Ellis
Simon Stainrod
Paul Stewart
John Tudor
Kyle Lightbourne
Martin Carruthers
David Herd
Dave Bamber
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Post by duckling on Apr 22, 2017 22:32:26 GMT
I don't doubt that he's very talented, but you have to question his motivation. You'd think he'd be super eager to prove himself.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 22, 2017 22:33:58 GMT
Fly on the wall.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 22, 2017 22:37:54 GMT
Given that his strengths are supposedly his finishing and movement, he missed two sitters today and was mostly stationery today. Think Tone's sold us a dud. With his feet yes, with his head is not one of his strengths. |
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Post by robinplumpton on Apr 22, 2017 22:38:42 GMT
Hughes has stated that we will see the best of him next season. Thus, playing him regularly gives the impression that this seasons results May get lucky or be written off. This is difficult for anyone who has paid their money expecting things to " happen" this season. Hughes has nailed his colours to a Berahino mast. You have to wonder what Diouff, Bony, Joselu, Bojan may have done with the same luxury of selection. Even Crouch, Walters, or Shaqiri don't seem to have been given that luxury of comfort without end product, before being dropped. As for Muniesia and Sobhi.............if selection is based upon principle I.e who is playing well, then such anomalies surely should not happen ? If it's not based upon such principles, then all the conspiracy theories and vitriol that are being thrown at the management appear deserved if not substantiated.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 22, 2017 22:42:56 GMT
Said when he signed that his scoring record was similar to Sidibe's.
Huge gamble to pay big bucks for a player who had a purple patch a few years ago.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 22, 2017 22:43:41 GMT
Difficult to distinguish fact from fiction when there's so much flack flying about.
Duck.
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 22, 2017 22:46:41 GMT
Hughes has stated that we will see the best of him next season. Thus, playing him regularly gives the impression that this seasons results May get lucky or be written off. This is difficult for anyone who has paid their money expecting things to " happen" this season. Hughes has nailed his colours to a Berahino mast. You have to wonder what Diouff, Bony, Joselu, Bojan may have done with the same luxury of selection. Even Crouch, Walters, or Shaqiri don't seem to have been given that luxury of comfort without end product, before being dropped. As for Muniesia and Sobhi.............if selection is based upon principle I.e who is playing well, then such anomalies surely should not happen ? If it's not based upon such principles, then all the conspiracy theories and vitriol that are being thrown at the management appear deserved if not substantiated. Bony and Diouf have played more games than Berahino this season, and Diouf and Bojan have had loads of opportunity in previous seasons. Muni has repeated ruled himself out through injuries and Sobhi is the 3rd choice wide player after Arni and Shaq. Arni was poor for the first half of both his first two seasons. Give Berahino time. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 22, 2017 22:48:41 GMT
Hughes has stated that we will see the best of him next season. Thus, playing him regularly gives the impression that this seasons results May get lucky or be written off. This is difficult for anyone who has paid their money expecting things to " happen" this season. Hughes has nailed his colours to a Berahino mast. You have to wonder what Diouff, Bony, Joselu, Bojan may have done with the same luxury of selection. Even Crouch, Walters, or Shaqiri don't seem to have been given that luxury of comfort without end product, before being dropped. As for Muniesia and Sobhi.............if selection is based upon principle I.e who is playing well, then such anomalies surely should not happen ? If it's not based upon such principles, then all the conspiracy theories and vitriol that are being thrown at the management appear deserved if not substantiated.
He absolutely has to stick with Berahino starting, if he doesn't, then (with Imbula not even making the bench) he (and he absolutely knows it) virtually signs his own P45.
If their signings had been the other way round (chronologically), then he'd be sticking with Imbula now.
All about politics.
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Post by barrysiddall on Apr 22, 2017 22:54:02 GMT
Hughes has stated that we will see the best of him next season. Thus, playing him regularly gives the impression that this seasons results May get lucky or be written off. This is difficult for anyone who has paid their money expecting things to " happen" this season. Hughes has nailed his colours to a Berahino mast. You have to wonder what Diouff, Bony, Joselu, Bojan may have done with the same luxury of selection. Even Crouch, Walters, or Shaqiri don't seem to have been given that luxury of comfort without end product, before being dropped. As for Muniesia and Sobhi.............if selection is based upon principle I.e who is playing well, then such anomalies surely should not happen ? If it's not based upon such principles, then all the conspiracy theories and vitriol that are being thrown at the management appear deserved if not substantiated. Bony and Diouf have played more games than Berahino this season, and Diouf and Bojan have had loads of opportunity in previous seasons. Muni has repeated ruled himself out through injuries and Sobhi is the 3rd choice wide player after Arni and Shaq. Arni was poor for the first half of both his first two seasons. Give Berahino time. Cut it out. There is no place for reasoned logic and sense on this board. |
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Post by robinplumpton on Apr 22, 2017 23:05:28 GMT
Bony and Diouf have played more games than Berahino this season, and Diouf and Bojan have had loads of opportunity in previous seasons. Muni has repeated ruled himself out through injuries and Sobhi is the 3rd choice wide player after Arni and Shaq. Arni was poor for the first half of both his first two seasons. Give Berahino time. Cut it out. There is no place for reasoned logic and sense on this board. More than happy to give Berahino time. More than happy to have faith in Hughes. I was merely pointing out that the iniquity leads to conspiracy. The constant changing of selection and formation engenders the perception that the manager neither knows his best team or best formation. Add that to the perception that a player cannot be dropped leads to conspiracy theories and anger in the face of piss poor performance. I am not condoning or justifying, I am just pointing out that frustrated punters will inevitably jumps to a conclusion , or after an interminable trend wil,adopt a perception. I really hope it comes right, it just feels like it hasn't for a long time. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 22, 2017 23:56:05 GMT
It's starting to be a worry no doubt. He should be warmed up by now but every chance he misses gets more glaring with every passing weekend. The one on half time could make you cry.
He no more looks a 15-20 man than me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 23:57:42 GMT
Diouf is a better utility man. Berahino will come good. Full backs are the main problem,
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Post by senojbor on Apr 23, 2017 0:00:57 GMT
Even TP told us he was wank
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Post by senojbor on Apr 23, 2017 0:06:23 GMT
Given that his strengths are supposedly his finishing and movement, he missed two sitters today and was mostly stationery today. Think Tone's sold us a dud. With his feet yes, with his head is not one of his strengths. Well for a CF that's unfortunate, but he cant score with his feet etheir |
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 23, 2017 0:09:31 GMT
With his feet yes, with his head is not one of his strengths. Well for a CF that's unfortunate, but he cant score with his feet etheir One good season..... |
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Post by robinplumpton on Apr 23, 2017 0:12:58 GMT
Cut it out. There is no place for reasoned logic and sense on this board. More than happy to give Berahino time. More than happy to have faith in Hughes. I was merely pointing out that the iniquity leads to conspiracy. The constant changing of selection and formation engenders the perception that the manager neither knows his best team or best formation. Add that to the perception that a player cannot be dropped leads to conspiracy theories and anger in the face of piss poor performance. I am not condoning or justifying, I am just pointing out that frustrated punters will inevitably jumps to a conclusion , or after an interminable trend wil,adopt a perception. I really hope it comes right, it just feels like it hasn't for a long time. Mmmmm.. Diouff was brought here as a striker, and when he is deployed, it is as a wing back. We are going to hell in a hindcart when Saido is deployed similarly |
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Post by senojbor on Apr 23, 2017 0:16:16 GMT
I really wonder if Hughes gives a fuck
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