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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 22, 2017 19:13:46 GMT
Just throw any fucker on, why change now???
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Post by ethers26 on Apr 22, 2017 19:48:33 GMT
Butland Bardsley BMI Ryan Muniesa Allen Cameron Adam Shaqiri Berahino Arnautovic
Arnautovic has been extremely wasteful last few weeks, so possibly Ramadan instead.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 20:26:39 GMT
Grant Bardsley Shawcross Martins Indi Muniesa Cameron Allen
Shaqiri Sobhi ArnieBerahino This is the crucial bit. I'm not arsed whether it's Saido or Diouf up-front, Butland or Grant in goals, Bardsley or Johnson, Pieters or Muniesa. We have to get back to basics, 4-2-3-1 and all three of Shaq, Arnie and Sobhi on the pitch. That's the team for me
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Post by pavel on Apr 22, 2017 22:46:37 GMT
After all the money we have spent on the midfield, most of us are reduced to naming Cameron in midfield, which is staggering. He can get about the pitch, has a certain amount of athleticism but premier league standard, never. It's a sad state of affairs that he has become a preferred option. He was gash today, couldn't pass and couldn't control the midfield along with his partner. If this is the best we can do in midfield because he's perceived to be the best of a bad bunch we really have gone backwards.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 22, 2017 22:55:31 GMT
Put 25 squad numbers in a hat and pick 11 out can't be any worse than that shit today
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 22, 2017 22:57:00 GMT
Hand on heart I haven't got a clue. Truth is, neither has anyone else. I fear a bad result and performance will see the crowd spectacularly turn.
This exactly ... nobody (including especially the manager) has got the slimmest of fuckin' clues.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 23:31:36 GMT
He'll shoehorn Jon in there somewhere
Butland Back four Cameron Muni Allen Shaq Saido/Jon Arnie/Sobhi
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Post by djduncanjames on Apr 22, 2017 23:37:06 GMT
Hand on heart I haven't got a clue. Truth is, neither has anyone else. I fear a bad result and performance will see the crowd spectacularly turn.
This exactly ... nobody (including especially the manager) has got the slimmest of fuckin' clues.
Have to say I am a bit concerned, considering West Ham held Everton to a goalless draw today. we need to be clinical vs them and I cant see it. I think most people will pick a variation of Trousers team
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 22, 2017 23:41:53 GMT
I've given up on this - Hughes plays those whose faces fit, irrespective of form, watches them wander around in listless ineptitude and rarely changes anything until it is too late, and then often in a way which makes matters worse.
The only thing I want to see now is somebody else picking the bloody team!
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Post by WhyDelilah on Apr 22, 2017 23:43:12 GMT
Butland
Edwards Muni Indi Bardsley
Cameron (any one of the other 76 sub standard midfielders)
Arnie Shaq Sobhi
Diouf
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 22, 2017 23:43:53 GMT
I've given up on this - Hughes plays those whose faces fit, irrespective of form, watches them wander around in listless ineptitude and rarely changes anything until it is too late, and then often in a way which makes matters worse. The only thing I want to see now is somebody else picking the bloody team! At least he's giving the promising youth players a chance.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 22, 2017 23:50:01 GMT
I've given up on this - Hughes plays those whose faces fit, irrespective of form, watches them wander around in listless ineptitude and rarely changes anything until it is too late, and then often in a way which makes matters worse. The only thing I want to see now is somebody else picking the bloody team! At least he's giving the promising youth players a chance. Who from the youth?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 22, 2017 23:51:00 GMT
At least he's giving the promising youth players a chance. Who from the youth? None of them were present today I believe. Like not even gone in the squad.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 23, 2017 0:00:31 GMT
None of them were present today I believe. Like not even gone in the squad. As I understand it, and obviously you'll have a better handle on it, N'Goy and Verlinden are injured.. Edwards and Jarvis have/are being integrated but with a bench of Bardsley, Whelan, Muniesa, Adam etc could you really justify sidelining any of them today for a rookie right back or midfielder? Especially with Johnson chomping. I thought these last few games would be a bit more experimental. Not perhaps the right environment for it now though. I'm sure the appropriate youth have been involved in the run up. Maybe there was an eye on the returning Jack too. Dunno.
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Post by smithypotter on Apr 23, 2017 0:05:57 GMT
We should be going back to 4231 with Shaq in the number 10 role but we will predictably go 3 at the back again. Our only saving grace is that West Ham are equally as turgid as us form wise but i wouldn't put it past them to turn up on the day.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2017 0:10:46 GMT
None of them were present today I believe. Like not even gone in the squad. As I understand it, and obviously you'll have a better handle on it, N'Goy and Verlinden are injured.. Edwards and Jarvis have/are being integrated but with a bench of Bardsley, Whelan, Muniesa, Adam etc could you really justify sidelining any of them today for a rookie right back or midfielder? Especially with Johnson chomping. I thought these last few games would be a bit more experimental. Not perhaps the right environment for it now though. I'm sure the appropriate youth have been involved in the run up. Maybe there was an eye on the returning Jack too. Dunno. Edwards should be in the team no questions asked. I like Jarvis, have done for years but he's not ready for it. But he's a very good footballer. We have a massive problem at right back. We have a player who consistently looks the best player on the pitch when he's playing against players who have played in the Prem or internationally at youth level. And he still can't get a look in.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 23, 2017 0:24:01 GMT
As I understand it, and obviously you'll have a better handle on it, N'Goy and Verlinden are injured.. Edwards and Jarvis have/are being integrated but with a bench of Bardsley, Whelan, Muniesa, Adam etc could you really justify sidelining any of them today for a rookie right back or midfielder? Especially with Johnson chomping. I thought these last few games would be a bit more experimental. Not perhaps the right environment for it now though. I'm sure the appropriate youth have been involved in the run up. Maybe there was an eye on the returning Jack too. Dunno. Edwards should be in the team no questions asked. I like Jarvis, have done for years but he's not ready for it. But he's a very good footballer. We have a massive problem at right back. We have a player who consistently looks the best player on the pitch when he's playing against players who have played in the Prem or internationally at youth level. And he still can't get a look in. Of course there should be questions asked about Edwards as a starter. Especially today.. In the real world we sign Johnson up, then drop him for the untested Edwards? Not happening. Johnson as it happens had one of his better games. Injury aside they're rightly on the periphery imo. I despair a bit if the boo boy thing is the tenor, not the correct environment to blood or try owt. All a bit self defeating.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2017 0:43:07 GMT
Edwards should be in the team no questions asked. I like Jarvis, have done for years but he's not ready for it. But he's a very good footballer. We have a massive problem at right back. We have a player who consistently looks the best player on the pitch when he's playing against players who have played in the Prem or internationally at youth level. And he still can't get a look in. Of course there should be questions asked about Edwards as a starter. Especially today.. In the real world we sign Johnson up, then drop him for the untested Edwards? Not happening. Johnson as it happens had one of his better games. Injury aside they're rightly on the periphery imo. I despair a bit if the boo boy thing is the tenor, not the correct environment to blood or try owt. All a bit self defeating. Johnson shouldn't have been given a contract.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 23, 2017 1:05:12 GMT
Of course there should be questions asked about Edwards as a starter. Especially today.. In the real world we sign Johnson up, then drop him for the untested Edwards? Not happening. Johnson as it happens had one of his better games. Injury aside they're rightly on the periphery imo. I despair a bit if the boo boy thing is the tenor, not the correct environment to blood or try owt. All a bit self defeating. Johnson shouldn't have been given a contract. He was tho. So it's obvious why Edwards didn't feature.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 23, 2017 1:08:50 GMT
Any 11 that doesn't involve crouch and Allen will do for me. That would be the same Peter Crouch that came on against Hull and scored what turned out to be the winner? Hmmm.... One of the differences between this week and last was the fact we had one player (SJW) who can cross a ball anywhere near the danger area. Doesn't matter who plays up front if they don't get the service.
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 23, 2017 1:32:27 GMT
Crouch, SJW or Diouf upfront.
Berahino needs to play in U23s to find some form. We can't afford to play the rest of the season with 10 men.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 23, 2017 6:07:23 GMT
The responses on this thread are highly informative of where we are as a club at present. You would normally expect 1 or 2 or even 3 different names and perhaps a version on a formation. However, just like our season we have multiple options and multiple formations. It is a shambles This far in to the season and changing formations every game and within games - total shambles
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Post by chad on Apr 23, 2017 6:20:06 GMT
Put 25 squad numbers in a hat and pick 11 out can't be any worse than that shit today I thought that's how he was doing it 😊
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 23, 2017 6:28:09 GMT
Any 11 that doesn't involve crouch and Allen will do for me. That would be the same Peter Crouch that came on against Hull and scored what turned out to be the winner? Â Hmmm.... Â One of the differences between this week and last was the fact we had one player (SJW) who can cross a ball anywhere near the danger area. Â Doesn't matter who plays up front if they don't get the service. Yeah the very same one. The one who can only do anything if the ball is pin point accurate because he's slower than my grandad and has the reactions of shay given. He's played far too many games this season and is a huge part of why we are playing so poorly...as is Joe Allen.
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Post by jeycov on Apr 23, 2017 7:20:12 GMT
Butland Bardsley BMI Ryan Muniesa Allen Cameron Adam Shaqiri Berahino Arnautovic Arnautovic has been extremely wasteful last few weeks, so possibly Ramadan instead. Arnie scored a spectacular goal last week and his pass to Walters created the 2nd. He missed a couple of good chances, but would be one of the first names on the team sheet. If anything the greater worry is that he will not be at Stoke next season. I would like to see Ramadan given more time not sure where he fits in when Shaqiri and Arnie start. It's all about opinions, it's very frustrating I am concerned that all is not well behind the scenes. An interesting 2 months ahead
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 23, 2017 7:26:11 GMT
Why change from his spectacularly successful formula now?
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 23, 2017 8:01:01 GMT
Put 25 squad numbers in a hat and pick 11 out can't be any worse than that shit today I thought that's how he was doing it 😊 Yes but how does he keep picking the same shit I can't be arsed players 😀
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 23, 2017 8:03:12 GMT
Butland Bardsley BMI Ryan Muniesa Allen Cameron Adam Shaqiri Berahino Arnautovic Arnautovic has been extremely wasteful last few weeks, so possibly Ramadan instead. Arnie scored a spectacular goal last week and his pass to Walters created the 2nd. He missed a couple of good chances, but would be one of the first names on the team sheet. If anything the greater worry is that he will not be at Stoke next season. I would like to see Ramadan given more time not sure where he fits in when Shaqiri and Arnie start. It's all about opinions, it's very frustrating I am concerned that all is not well behind the scenes. An interesting 2 months ahead Arnie says on the sky football app today that he turned down a personal approach from Koeman and lukuka to join Everton
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 23, 2017 8:03:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 8:05:57 GMT
Arnie scored a spectacular goal last week and his pass to Walters created the 2nd. He missed a couple of good chances, but would be one of the first names on the team sheet. If anything the greater worry is that he will not be at Stoke next season. I would like to see Ramadan given more time not sure where he fits in when Shaqiri and Arnie start. It's all about opinions, it's very frustrating I am concerned that all is not well behind the scenes. An interesting 2 months ahead Arnie says on the sky football app today that he turned down a personal approach from Koeman and lukuka to join Everton Bet he's delighted with the decision
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