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Post by yamyampotter on Apr 16, 2017 7:29:30 GMT
The amount of criticism Mark Hughes and the club gets is totally unjust. Time to be realistic. There's been periods of frustration over the last couple of years as with every club, but overall Mark Hughes has moved us on to another level from 4 seasons ago. As for his signings, vast majority are a success. Even Sir Alex got some transfers badly wrong...
We have the nucleus of a squad and first 11 that can challenge for the top 8 with 2-3 top class additions which I am sure we have the budget for. Yet people calling for Walters to go, or Shaq to go. We need a few off the books no doubt, but who's to say this isn't planned?
Let's start supporting them all rather than being ungrateful for being 9th in the Prem and having Swiss internationals score 30 yarders.
There aren't many better managers available that could do more with us than Hughes. He will know what we need to do for next season.
And if people really think Ranieri can come in and do a better job have a look at yourself. ( And yes I know 'he' won the league with Leicester, it was a fluke.)
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Post by MuddyWoody on Apr 16, 2017 7:32:59 GMT
Sparky has had his chance. Time for a change.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Apr 16, 2017 7:42:32 GMT
He's taken us as far as he can... Time to go. We've been terrible for the past 18 months now, and as for playing a better style of football.... Well I'm sitting further back in my seat now than I have in the past 10 years. It's like waiting to watch a car crash all the while and I've had enough of it. Change in the summer required. What do you seriously expect Stoke City to achieve and who do you think would get us there?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 16, 2017 7:44:05 GMT
I don't think that it's not that he's done well but sometimes things need freshening up and this season on the whole has been dissapointing and progress appears to have stopped. In a lot of ways he's earnt himself a bad season after 3 9th place finishes so it's a very tough call. If I was PC I would be very worried about some very expensive mistakes which I'm not sure our club can simply right off
Imbula - a huge fee for a player who can't get on the bench. Someone made the decision to sign him. Clearly if he's not deemed good enough that was a huge mistake.
Bony - huge money on wages and he can't make the bench.
They're the 2 obvious ones but there's also
No LB cover Haugaard The reliance on Whelan and Adam Not knowing his best team / formation still
He's been a very good manager but he needs to learn from his mistakes and address them rather than keep repeating them.
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Post by generationex on Apr 16, 2017 7:46:35 GMT
His dependence on players signed long before he arrived has done it for me. If he survives I've got grave fears for next year.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 16, 2017 7:56:12 GMT
The amount of criticism Mark Hughes and the club gets is totally unjust. Time to be realistic. There's been periods of frustration over the last couple of years as with every club, but overall Mark Hughes has moved us on to another level from 4 seasons ago. As for his signings, vast majority are a success. Even Sir Alex got some transfers badly wrong... We have the nucleus of a squad and first 11 that can challenge for the top 8 with 2-3 top class additions which I am sure we have the budget for. Yet people calling for Walters to go, or Shaq to go. We need a few off the books no doubt, but who's to say this isn't planned? Let's start supporting them all rather than being ungrateful for being 9th in the Prem and having Swiss internationals score 30 yarders. There aren't many better managers available that could do more with us than Hughes. He will know what we need to do for next season. And if people really think Ranieri can come in and do a better job have a look at yourself. ( And yes I know 'he' won the league with Leicester, it was a fluke.) Another sensible post 👍............Keep them cumming 😀
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 7:56:53 GMT
One win.
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Post by hanibal7 on Apr 16, 2017 7:57:50 GMT
So a few numbnuts want manager out even if we win the next 5, game,set and match, not even giving the guy a chance. The problem here is the anti hughes will always say he should go, they are too set in their ways now, its the IN thing to say Hughes out. No well done no plan b, no nothing, some of you make me want to puke
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 16, 2017 8:00:41 GMT
Sparky has got it easy , try living with my Mrs now that's doom and gloom 😀
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Post by hanibal7 on Apr 16, 2017 8:00:46 GMT
What do you seriously expect Stoke City to achieve and who do you think would get us there? Realistically anywhere from top 10 to challenging for 6th position could be achieved. I'd also like to see a good cup run, we left both cups early this year without any real attempt to push on. As for who, that's down to the chairman. I know who I'd like to see (if it's realistic or not us up for debate) but like I say it's up to PC. At this point I think I'd chuck one of the stewards in and give him a go, couldn't be much worse. Your realism to finish 6th is staggering, even scary. So we can finish above Arsenal then 1 Chelsea 31 40 75 2 Tottenham 32 46 71 3 Man City 32 28 64 4 Liverpool 32 28 63 5 Everton 33 23 57 6 Man Utd 30 22 57 7 Arsenal 30 22 54
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 16, 2017 8:01:29 GMT
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Post by hanibal7 on Apr 16, 2017 8:02:27 GMT
man u and arsenal reputed to be spending 200 million in the next season window
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 16, 2017 8:06:45 GMT
man u and arsenal reputed to be spending 200 million in the next season window That's scary tbh what's happened to FFP 😀
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Post by yamyampotter on Apr 16, 2017 8:11:02 GMT
There's been a few more than that this season otherwise my post may have been different.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 16, 2017 8:11:36 GMT
10 wins so far.... Buy a Sunday paper or Google it 😀
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 16, 2017 8:13:13 GMT
We're not far off being an excellent side if we can address the right spots. We have some good youngsters too who will hopefully start breaking through in the next couple of seasons. For me if we could start next season with an 11 like this well be doing well
Butland
New RB Ryan Indi (fingers crossed) New LB
Allen New DM
Sobhi Shaq Arni
Berahino
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Apr 16, 2017 8:28:25 GMT
What do you seriously expect Stoke City to achieve and who do you think would get us there? Realistically anywhere from top 10 to challenging for 6th position could be achieved. I'd also like to see a good cup run, we left both cups early this year without any real attempt to push on. As for who, that's down to the chairman. I know who I'd like to see (if it's realistic or not us up for debate) but like I say it's up to PC. At this point I think I'd chuck one of the stewards in and give him a go, couldn't be much worse. Was this not what he achieved last season and because he's been let down by key players, you still want to get rid? The chairman cannot magic someone out of the air.
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Post by foxxy on Apr 16, 2017 8:36:24 GMT
We're not far off being an excellent side if we can address the right spots. We have some good youngsters too who will hopefully start breaking through in the next couple of seasons. For me if we could start next season with an 11 like this well be doing well Butland New RB Ryan Indi (fingers crossed) New LB Allen New DM Sobhi Shaq Arni Berahino Sounds great but we all know full well that's not what Hughes will do,that's the problem. He'd spend more money in the summer on players that he will probably struggle to fit in to his team, probably end up giving up on berahino (he's already seemingly given up on sobhi) and then yet again rely on whelan, adam, crouch and Walters to hopefully bail him out. No thanks.
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Post by gonesouth on Apr 16, 2017 8:44:53 GMT
I can remember when the likes of Imbula and Bojan signed for Stoke. There were not many on this board who said they were the wrong signings for Stoke. In fact most of the talk was that these players would take us onto the next level. Its down to the players themselves who have failed to step up to the mark and take their opportunity. We could have scored at least 6 goals yesterday if players had taken their chances. That is not Mark Hughes fault. The same could be said for the games against Liverpool and Burnley. Players missing opportunities are not Mark Hughes fault.
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Post by barcaontrent on Apr 16, 2017 9:11:43 GMT
One win
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 16, 2017 9:14:54 GMT
What do you seriously expect Stoke City to achieve and who do you think would get us there? Realistically anywhere from top 10 to challenging for 6th position could be achieved. I'd also like to see a good cup run, we left both cups early this year without any real attempt to push on. As for who, that's down to the chairman. I know who I'd like to see (if it's realistic or not us up for debate) but like I say it's up to PC. At this point I think I'd chuck one of the stewards in and give him a go, couldn't be much worse. He's ticked all your boxes in his first 3 full seasons. As usual people like you cannot name a suitable replacement that Coates would go for. To be honest mate you're just making up a load of shit. The facts are Stoke would need to spend major money to get near the top 6. Coates won't do that.
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Post by gibby1409 on Apr 16, 2017 9:17:57 GMT
He's the right man for the club. Whether we like it or not, the absolute highest we could get to would be 7th and we've been knocking on the door of that since MH came in.
I was there in the 70s and saw the great players we had. We only had a few seasons of relative success, and only one where we pushed to win tbe league. Two seasons after that we were relegated. The Point I'm making is the we've consistently come close to our league table potential under MH. Yes, I'll happily agree there's been many ups and downs along the way, and we all get frustrated. But we will have seasons where we drop slightly, this will be be one of them. But overall since 2002 we've been on an upward curve which is phenomenal for a club of our size.
People say we've spent lots of money, and to you and me we have. But in premiership terms we've spent f**k all! The top 6 or 7 clubs will all spend 10's possibly 100's of millions this year and we'll need to spend possibly £30m just to stand still.
So coming back to MH, for me he's the perfect fit for the club. His profile in global terms is massively higher than SCFC. And we shouldn't underestimate that in attracting players to the Club.
In my opinion of course 😉
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 16, 2017 9:19:11 GMT
The amount of criticism Mark Hughes and the club gets is totally unjust. Time to be realistic. There's been periods of frustration over the last couple of years as with every club, but overall Mark Hughes has moved us on to another level from 4 seasons ago. As for his signings, vast majority are a success. Even Sir Alex got some transfers badly wrong... We have the nucleus of a squad and first 11 that can challenge for the top 8 with 2-3 top class additions which I am sure we have the budget for. Yet people calling for Walters to go, or Shaq to go. We need a few off the books no doubt, but who's to say this isn't planned? Let's start supporting them all rather than being ungrateful for being 9th in the Prem and having Swiss internationals score 30 yarders. There aren't many better managers available that could do more with us than Hughes. He will know what we need to do for next season. And if people really think Ranieri can come in and do a better job have a look at yourself. ( And yes I know 'he' won the league with Leicester, it was a fluke.) Name the vast majority ?
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Post by chonburipotter on Apr 16, 2017 9:40:41 GMT
man u and arsenal reputed to be spending 200 million in the next season window So therefore, we must use our transfer kitty wisely and not sign/loan players just to sit on the bench or even less
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Post by dadofsam on Apr 16, 2017 9:53:34 GMT
Getting off to a decent start, playing entertaining football at home, seeing some youngsters coming through and a transfer or two making an impact. That'd do me.
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Apr 16, 2017 10:12:56 GMT
Getting off to a decent start, playing entertaining football at home, seeing some youngsters coming through and a transfer or two making an impact. That'd do me. How about scoring more goals to end the season with a positive goal difference.
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Post by yamyampotter on Apr 16, 2017 10:23:39 GMT
The amount of criticism Mark Hughes and the club gets is totally unjust. Time to be realistic. There's been periods of frustration over the last couple of years as with every club, but overall Mark Hughes has moved us on to another level from 4 seasons ago. As for his signings, vast majority are a success. Even Sir Alex got some transfers badly wrong... We have the nucleus of a squad and first 11 that can challenge for the top 8 with 2-3 top class additions which I am sure we have the budget for. Yet people calling for Walters to go, or Shaq to go. We need a few off the books no doubt, but who's to say this isn't planned? Let's start supporting them all rather than being ungrateful for being 9th in the Prem and having Swiss internationals score 30 yarders. There aren't many better managers available that could do more with us than Hughes. He will know what we need to do for next season. And if people really think Ranieri can come in and do a better job have a look at yourself. ( And yes I know 'he' won the league with Leicester, it was a fluke.) Name the vast majority ? Grant Indi Pieters (now needs upgrade) Allen Arnie Shaq Bojan (at the time) Ramadan Berahino (will be) Moses Affelay
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 16, 2017 10:53:12 GMT
Grant Indi Pieters (now needs upgrade) Allen Arnie Shaq Bojan (at the time) Ramadan Berahino (will be) Moses Affelay Haugaard Given Johnson MVG Tex Imbula Wolfy Joselu Ireland Guidetti Bardsley Muniesa Mame.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 16, 2017 10:54:53 GMT
The amount of criticism Mark Hughes and the club gets is totally unjust. Time to be realistic. There's been periods of frustration over the last couple of years as with every club, but overall Mark Hughes has moved us on to another level from 4 seasons ago. As for his signings, vast majority are a success. Even Sir Alex got some transfers badly wrong... We have the nucleus of a squad and first 11 that can challenge for the top 8 with 2-3 top class additions which I am sure we have the budget for. Yet people calling for Walters to go, or Shaq to go. We need a few off the books no doubt, but who's to say this isn't planned? Let's start supporting them all rather than being ungrateful for being 9th in the Prem and having Swiss internationals score 30 yarders. There aren't many better managers available that could do more with us than Hughes. He will know what we need to do for next season. And if people really think Ranieri can come in and do a better job have a look at yourself. ( And yes I know 'he' won the league with Leicester, it was a fluke.) Can't all of these threads be merged? There's about 6 which are all basically the same. We get one every time we win a game.
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Post by safcforever on Apr 16, 2017 11:00:34 GMT
Sparky has had his chance. Time for a change. You're in one of them positions where you will never make it to the top 6 but you should be safe from the drop. Changing managers will either keep you in a similar position or see you relegated. Sunderland fans didn't like Bruce but he would pretty much get us 10th-14th position. Look what we've had since
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