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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 3:59:42 GMT
Obviously JB straight back as No 1, with LG being the cup goalie, with an absolute promise of playing every round, even if we reach a final, and a nice 3 year contract as well, not sure what he is on at the moment.
As far as JB goes, get him on an extended contract, and hope that if he has a great season, which I am sure he will, that he repays our loyalty to him and stays at least 1 more season, if he does regain his former good form, I am sure the big 6 will be casting an eye over him.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 6, 2017 4:33:24 GMT
To be honest, if someone comes in with a huge bid (Arsenal) I'd like to sell him and stick with Grant. Even though I think Butland is a better GK, I don't think he gives us so much more than what Grant can already do. Also injuries could plague him again.
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Post by duckling on Apr 6, 2017 4:39:27 GMT
No one will bid for him until they know whether he's recovered his form. If the club are looking to sell, they would do well to put Butland in the shop window by playing him over Grant in the league.
The risk is that he might need some games to get back to form. Can the club afford to drop points while he regains his form? But if they don't play him, he'll never get back to form.
It's a tough decision.
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Post by woodstein on Apr 6, 2017 5:19:41 GMT
Admittedly Grant has been excellent but poor Jacks been out all this time then some gits want shut of him as soon as he's back. Nice of them.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Apr 6, 2017 5:30:38 GMT
I'm not confident we're necessarily going to ever see Jack play again, and I don't just mean for Stoke
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 5:32:30 GMT
No way i'd get shut, i'd want at least 2 seasons from him, and as far as match fitness goes, I presume he is playing in the reserves, well, why not give him our last 3 games this season, there are seemingly ( hopefully I should say ) no issues, pretty much dead rubbers, but what a boost going into summer seeing him play again, then a good , meaningful, preseason...Then get him straight back in...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 5:41:54 GMT
Get jack back asap
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Post by 3putts on Apr 6, 2017 11:40:25 GMT
no problem with jack number 1 and grant as back up, but should we progress in any cup[semi finals?] we have to play our best team so sorry grant it has to be jack in goal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 11:54:00 GMT
JB will be number 1 next season with Stoke and England 😊
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 12:05:01 GMT
Admittedly Grant has been excellent but poor Jacks been out all this time then some gits want shut of him as soon as he's back. Nice of them. Whether we like it or not, he'll be gone during this summer window, or next January window imo. If the money is right, we shouldn't stand in his way. |
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 6, 2017 12:11:26 GMT
Sticking with Grant would be a disaster. We're starting to see why he was third choice at Derby.
I honestly think Butland would of saved the goal the other day at Turf Moor.
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Post by burge2u on Apr 6, 2017 12:23:54 GMT
Sticking with Grant would be a disaster. We're starting to see why he was third choice at Derby. I honestly think Butland would of saved the goal the other day at Turf Moor. I disagree. Grant has probably been our most consistent player this season. Other defenders need to look at themselves regarding the Burnley goal. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 12:37:06 GMT
To be honest, if someone comes in with a huge bid (Arsenal) I'd like to sell him and stick with Grant. Even though I think Butland is a better GK, I don't think he gives us so much more than what Grant can already do. Also injuries could plague him again. Injury is the only concern. Ability wise Butland is on another level to Grant. |
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Apr 6, 2017 12:40:59 GMT
Can the club afford to drop points while he regains his form? But if they don't play him, he'll never get back to form. It's a tough decision. Don't worry about that mate, if Hughes is still here he thinks we don't start the season until October anyway  |
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 6, 2017 13:52:59 GMT
I'm not confident we're necessarily going to ever see Jack play again, and I don't just mean for Stoke He's back in full training, i.e. completely recovered from the injury. The "setback" injury was diagnosed and fixed, he says it feels great and Les says there's game time on the horizon. On what basis are you speculating he'll never play again? |
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 6, 2017 13:57:10 GMT
Sticking with Grant would be a disaster. We're starting to see why he was third choice at Derby. I honestly think Butland would of saved the goal the other day at Turf Moor. I agree Pugs, he's a decent enough shot stopper but the other stuff like coming for crosses, communication, kicking, and command of his area is where he's falls short. |
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Post by lordb on Apr 6, 2017 13:58:40 GMT
Sticking with Grant would be a disaster. We're starting to see why he was third choice at Derby. I honestly think Butland would of saved the goal the other day at Turf Moor. Utter bollocks. |
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Post by redandwhitetundra on Apr 6, 2017 14:50:32 GMT
Hang on.
Are people seriously saying sell Butland who is, what, 10 years younger in favour of Grant who, despite being one of our better players this year, probably only has two years left at the top..?
And they accuse the club of short-sightedness.
Here's an idea. Make Jack and Lee fight it out for the first choice gloves, with Shay released and Daniel Bachmann and Jakob fighting it for third choice over pre season to determine who stays and who goes out on loan.
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Post by leoncort on Apr 6, 2017 15:08:51 GMT
Haugaard isnt doing that bad in the championship, which is where we'll be anyway so hes an option..
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 6, 2017 16:56:41 GMT
To be honest, if someone comes in with a huge bid (Arsenal) I'd like to sell him and stick with Grant. Even though I think Butland is a better GK, I don't think he gives us so much more than what Grant can already do. Also injuries could plague him again. What the actual fuck? Sell a player who is potentially world class.. okay. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 6, 2017 16:58:51 GMT
I'm not confident we're necessarily going to ever see Jack play again, and I don't just mean for Stoke Yes you're correct, the oatcake doctors diagnosed Jack with the Dean Ashton retirement injury so therefore he'll never play football again, obviously. FFS. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 6, 2017 17:06:27 GMT
To be honest, if someone comes in with a huge bid (Arsenal) I'd like to sell him and stick with Grant. Even though I think Butland is a better GK, I don't think he gives us so much more than what Grant can already do. Also injuries could plague him again. What the actual fuck? Sell a player who is potentially world class.. okay. What's your idea of "World Class" ? |
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 6, 2017 17:17:45 GMT
Butland owes Stoke a full season at the very very least.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 6, 2017 17:31:17 GMT
Sticking with Grant would be a disaster. We're starting to see why he was third choice at Derby. I honestly think Butland would of saved the goal the other day at Turf Moor. Utter bollocks. Bet you he chucks a few in in the last 7 games. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 6, 2017 17:43:22 GMT
What the actual fuck? Sell a player who is potentially world class.. okay. What's your idea of "World Class" ? If you can't remember his performances before the injury then it's your own fault. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 6, 2017 17:47:59 GMT
What's your idea of "World Class" ? If you can't remember his performances before the injury then it's your own fault. He's a decent young GK, Grant is also a decent GK, I don't feel we lose too much in terms of goalkeeping ability. When you say World Class I assume you're talking about him being one of the top goalkeepers in the world and I disagree with that. |
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Post by ethers26 on Apr 6, 2017 17:48:47 GMT
What the actual fuck? Sell a player who is potentially world class.. okay. What's your idea of "World Class" ? A fit Jack Butland will be world class. Absolutely no doubts whatsoever about that and that is the opinion across football pundits and anybody who's ever worked with him. Selling him to keep a 30+ year old is bizarre. |
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Post by nutterpotter on Apr 6, 2017 17:50:01 GMT
If you can't remember his performances before the injury then it's your own fault. He's a decent young GK, Grant is also a decent GK, I don't feel we lose too much in terms of goalkeeping ability. When you say World Class I assume you're talking about him being one of the top goalkeepers in the world and I disagree with that. Butland and De Gea were the 2 best goalkeepers in the league last season. So considering he's only 23/24, I think he can become one of the top goalkeepers in the world. |
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Post by ethers26 on Apr 6, 2017 17:50:46 GMT
If you can't remember his performances before the injury then it's your own fault. He's a decent young GK, Grant is also a decent GK, I don't feel we lose too much in terms of goalkeeping ability. When you say World Class I assume you're talking about him being one of the top goalkeepers in the world and I disagree with that. Putting my head on the line, but he has (especially pre injury) the potential to be the best on the planet. We're a nation that creates keeper after keeper, but he's a ridiculous talent. He has everything in his locker at a very young age. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 6, 2017 17:53:20 GMT
He's a decent young GK, Grant is also a decent GK, I don't feel we lose too much in terms of goalkeeping ability. When you say World Class I assume you're talking about him being one of the top goalkeepers in the world and I disagree with that. Butland and De Gea were the 2 best goalkeepers in the league last season. So considering he's only 23/24, I think he can become one of the top goalkeepers in the world. I think so too. I don't know about Butland being one of the best last season though. |
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