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Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 24, 2017 10:27:54 GMT
If, as a customer of Tesco, I decide that the quality of their products and service is poor, and I cannot work out where the company is going, I might well want, and expect, that the chief executive would be replaced. I would not, however, expect to be part of the advertising, interviewing and selection process- other people are paid plenty to do that and to know where to look. So, I see that Hughes is taking the club backwards and I want him replaced. I don't have to know who would be the best replacement. Who is to say that your judgement of Tesco's service is justified? I'm sure that they would not necessarily 'want' or 'expect' to sack their CEO on the basis of a few disgruntled customers. There may be underlying reasons of which you are not aware so I would leave it to the company to decide what is in their best interests. My main complaint is the point made by a previous poster that stating simply 'Hughes must go' is pointless. Unlike recruiting for Tesco, recruiting a Stoke manager is apparently something for which all supporters think are they are uniquely qualified - NOT If Tesco start losing market share then they act to fix it. In our case it seems the equivalent is season ticket sales. If having an opinion on here about the manager/club/team offends then either shut the board down or 'shop' somewhere else.
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Post by hoofmagic on Apr 24, 2017 11:16:42 GMT
Michael Laudrup..........................?
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Post by Fred Ferret on Apr 24, 2017 12:16:52 GMT
Done, my vote is now for Hughes to stay. I feel better already.
Believe in Father Christmas!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 12:19:40 GMT
The reason why some people don't specify a manager's name is because that makes them accountable when the wheels come off. They have to 'own' that statement. It is attributable to them. Far better then to be negative & vague. Hence the phrase ' Hughes has to go'. A completely pointless statement that spreads discontent without offering anything positive. The odds of Hughes going are currently 50-1. The odds of Pulis being sacked from West Brom are 40-1. Hughes is going nowhere. If, as a customer of Tesco, I decide that the quality of their products and service is poor, and I cannot work out where the company is going, I might well want, and expect, that the chief executive would be replaced. I would not, however, expect to be part of the advertising, interviewing and selection process- other people are paid plenty to do that and to know where to look. So, I see that Hughes is taking the club backwards and I want him replaced. I don't have to know who would be the best replacement. Fair enough. But just for fun anyway who would you have replace him?
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Post by stokiekm on Apr 24, 2017 13:23:11 GMT
Well I can't see Coates and co giving a toss if 250 ish on here want Hughes out
At least it puts some perspective on things. Basically this forum and the constant doom mongers mean shit all
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Post by kustokie on Apr 24, 2017 13:26:27 GMT
Wonder if these kind of results are reflective of where the fanbase is now? 80% and 73% respectively want him sacked? No, it just shows how easy it is to say 'get rid' without having to put your money where your mouth is regarding a replacement or having any responsibility for the replacement possibly doing even worse. The perfect, unattributable cop-out. It would have been easier to say 'I think Hughes should go but I haven't the faintest idea what to do next, let someone else have that job and I'll criticise that appointment as well if it goes pear shaped'. The average fan can only base their opinion on what they see on the pitch, which shows Hughes is a muddled-headed mess. Most of us aren't knowledgeable on the pool of potential managers, which does not mean we can't have an opinion on whether he should stay or go.
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Post by reddipotter on Apr 24, 2017 13:26:39 GMT
Who is to say that your judgement of Tesco's service is justified? I'm sure that they would not necessarily 'want' or 'expect' to sack their CEO on the basis of a few disgruntled customers. There may be underlying reasons of which you are not aware so I would leave it to the company to decide what is in their best interests. My main complaint is the point made by a previous poster that stating simply 'Hughes must go' is pointless. Unlike recruiting for Tesco, recruiting a Stoke manager is apparently something for which all supporters think are they are uniquely qualified - NOT If Tesco start losing market share then they act to fix it. In our case it seems the equivalent is season ticket sales. If having an opinion on here about the manager/club/team offends then either shut the board down or 'shop' somewhere else. Baystokie, your final sentence is what I was saying. We are not qualified to appoint a new manager and should leave it to 'the company' to carry out. However, there seem to be more than just a few disgruntled customers as indeed happened to Tesco a few years ago, and they changed their CEO. The second post, of course, shows where my analogy falls down. As fans, we can't/won't shop elsewhere so we have to show our dissatisfaction in other ways.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 24, 2017 13:28:28 GMT
Well I can't see Coates and co giving a toss if 250 ish on here want Hughes out At least it puts some perspective on things. Basically this forum and the constant doom mongers mean shit all If that's the case, why are you wasting your time posting an opinion.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2017 13:31:59 GMT
Wonder if these kind of results are reflective of where the fanbase is now? 80% and 73% respectively want him sacked? No, it just shows how easy it is to say 'get rid' without having to put your money where your mouth is regarding a replacement or having any responsibility for the replacement possibly doing even worse. The perfect, unattributable cop-out. It would have been easier to say 'I think Hughes should go but I haven't the faintest idea what to do next, let someone else have that job and I'll criticise that appointment as well if it goes pear shaped'.
I think that's a very fair comment but by the same token, that in itself doesn't mean that you shouldn't contemplate the idea of replacing him does it?
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Post by stokiekm on Apr 24, 2017 13:45:02 GMT
Well I can't see Coates and co giving a toss if 250 ish on here want Hughes out At least it puts some perspective on things. Basically this forum and the constant doom mongers mean shit all If that's the case, why are you wasting your time posting an opinion. You know how it is. Constant negativity and bait draws me in. Got to love how easy it is to play the percentages game when a poll is started as yet another negative thread then seen as justified because a high percentage of the negative crew vote. Beautiful lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 13:48:09 GMT
No, it just shows how easy it is to say 'get rid' without having to put your money where your mouth is regarding a replacement or having any responsibility for the replacement possibly doing even worse. The perfect, unattributable cop-out. It would have been easier to say 'I think Hughes should go but I haven't the faintest idea what to do next, let someone else have that job and I'll criticise that appointment as well if it goes pear shaped'. The average fan can only base their opinion on what they see on the pitch, which shows Hughes is a muddled-headed mess. Most of us aren't knowledgeable on the pool of potential managers, which does not mean we can't have an opinion on whether he should stay or go. Unless you live in a cave the rest of the week though with no TV/internet/media access though I'm sure you can put your preferred candidate on the table. Just for fun.....
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Post by PB1863 on May 14, 2017 12:35:00 GMT
I'm sure if this poll was done this week the Hughes to stay vote would be in single figures
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Post by march4 on May 14, 2017 12:45:01 GMT
I'm sure if this poll was done this week the Hughes to stay vote would be in single figures I'm sure Admin could arrange it. Dave, are you around to sort it out?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 14, 2017 12:46:57 GMT
I'm sure if this poll was done this week the Hughes to stay vote would be in single figures I'm sure Admin could arrange it. Dave, are you around to sort it out? Anyone who's voted can change their vote on this one, if their opinion has changed, march. The twitter ones seem to hovering around 80% out.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 14, 2017 15:36:14 GMT
Looks like another landslide in the Knot FM poll on twitter
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