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Post by followyoudown on Mar 31, 2017 13:47:17 GMT
Apologies if I got any information wrong.. Did he make the same statement while at West Bromwich about his drink being spiked ? no because whilst he was at West Brom no-one in the public or media knew that he been suspended. They kept to FA policy and didn't reveal what was going on. Whether he used that as justification to West Brom during the process with the FA when it initially happened, no-one knows as West Brom (when they revealed what had happened AFTER he had signed for us and against FA policy) conveniently did nothing but name him and then say they refused to comment any further as it wasn't their business as he was no longer their player....although naming him publicly was apparently fine and completely their business even though he was no longer their player. As you say the only information TP leaked was he failed a drug test, no mention of him protesting his innocence at the time, would be amazed if his argument was not consistent to what he told the FA and WBA espicially with his criticism of TP which i'm sure he'll take in his usual good grace.
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Post by duckling on Mar 31, 2017 13:55:26 GMT
Is it definite that Pulis leaked it? I can see Jeremy Peace doing it too.
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 31, 2017 14:04:13 GMT
Shit Jamie vardy he's just a shit Jamie vardy 😂😂
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Post by RichJonesy on Mar 31, 2017 14:09:22 GMT
Is it definite that Pulis leaked it? I can see Jeremy Peace doing it too. It was leaked a day or two before we played them and while he denys being the leak, it stinks of Pulis from top to bottom!
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Post by thegift on Mar 31, 2017 16:14:28 GMT
Wade in lads, wade in. Other clubs' fans would be supporting their new striker, willing him on to succeed. But oh no, Stoke City fans can't wait for him to fail. I just can't get my head around it, but it's nothing new. You talk more shit than i do
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 17:12:20 GMT
Forget all this bollocks and get behind him. He's our player now. I for one hope he comes good, and regains his confidence.
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Mar 31, 2017 17:26:49 GMT
If saido has a opinion. He's entitled to that opinion. People have to make a decision. They've got to decide. They're all sensible enough to know wether we looked after him or not. I will leave it to them to decide.. Tony pulis when asked about what berahino has said...... Not exactly supporting his claims.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 31, 2017 17:40:57 GMT
Wade in lads, wade in. Other clubs' fans would be supporting their new striker, willing him on to succeed. But oh no, Stoke City fans can't wait for him to fail. I just can't get my head around it, but it's nothing new. You talk more shit than i do I'm right and you know it. Hence the bullshit. Check out the other thread.. apparently he has to 'win us over'. Jesus wept.
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Mar 31, 2017 18:03:58 GMT
Don't think there's any love between him and pulis.. As polite as it was when saido left them, there could be more nibbles to appear sadly. Every time pulis quizzed about it, he never completely clears it up. Now telling us we can believe what we want. We are adults? Is he saying that he's lying ?
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Post by butlerstbob on Mar 31, 2017 18:09:19 GMT
Don't think there's any love between him and pulis.. As polite as it was when saido left them, there could be more nibbles to appear sadly. Every time pulis quizzed about it, he never completely clears it up. Now telling us we can believe what we want. We are adults? Is he saying that he's lying ? Well who would you believe? Pulis couldn't lie straight in bed, the bloke has lied all his career & lied in court for Christ sake, never mind at least we gave Saido a whole two months before we decided to stick the boot in! well done lads
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Mar 31, 2017 18:16:39 GMT
Don't think it's having a problem with saido bob.. It's the not actually knowing what has actually gone on..? I don't think doing the BBC interview has helped. It's just highlighted a situation that was beginning to go away. But it's on all social media and even sky gave it for everyone to see. Who ever is at Stoke handling the media side should take full responsibility for this. The lad can't actually prove his story, so why allow him to be in the public eye telling a story that only he knows is possibly true.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 31, 2017 18:18:51 GMT
Don't think there's any love between him and pulis.. As polite as it was when saido left them, there could be more nibbles to appear sadly. Every time pulis quizzed about it, he never completely clears it up. Now telling us we can believe what we want. We are adults? Is he saying that he's lying ? Well who would you believe? Pulis couldn't lie straight in bed, the bloke has lied all his career &Â lied in court for Christ sake, never mind at least we gave Saido a whole two months before we decided to stick the boot in! well done lads There are some on here that didn't even wait for him to kick a ball before putting the boot in mate!
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Mar 31, 2017 18:28:57 GMT
I was maybe one of them. But I've seen enough to maybe see there's something to look forward to. But I really think he needs hiding away until next season. We safe and have enough options. This will only cause more pressure on the lad. The main problem is Bob.. Only he knows the truth and pulis not exactly backing it up.. Meaning he's calling him a liar.. Really difficult situation for the lad.
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Post by butlerstbob on Mar 31, 2017 18:29:12 GMT
Oh I agree Mousey, Saido should have put this behind him and let the football do the talking instead of dragging this up, but I know I don't trust a single word that comes out of Pulis's mouth! but yes Stoke's media team are at fault.
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Mar 31, 2017 18:34:06 GMT
Been handled very poorly. How can you allow him to publicly tell his side of the story without hard evidence. Like a hostpital report or cctv showing someone near his drink? Anything at all to prove his innocence. Anyway. Onwards and upwards bud.... Sing his name loud and proud tomorrow.. Non stop ! Enough said.. Take care.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 18:36:37 GMT
F'ing Pulis. Bigging up Mourinho on Sky earlier. Any pillock can do what he does, with all the money he's thrown about! Mourinho, I mean!
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Post by samba :) on Mar 31, 2017 18:36:37 GMT
If he also had his wallet stolen, he might have some credibility with the claim. Druggies don't spike drinks unless they are looking for something (money, sex, etc). And they don't spike with ecstacy. How do you know this
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Post by butlerstbob on Mar 31, 2017 18:59:04 GMT
Well who would you believe? Pulis couldn't lie straight in bed, the bloke has lied all his career & lied in court for Christ sake, never mind at least we gave Saido a whole two months before we decided to stick the boot in! well done lads There are some on here that didn't even wait for him to kick a ball before putting the boot in mate! Yes I remember Mick, the days & weeks before he was getting pelters from some of our lot, I still believe some of our fans actually enjoy it when we lose and love to stick the boot in to our club when and wherever possible! crazy!!
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Post by jezzascfc on Mar 31, 2017 19:03:51 GMT
Another "we are our own worst enemy" type of thread. He is now our player, so let's get behind the lad and give him the support he deserves as he seeks to resurrect his career in the red and white.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 31, 2017 19:22:35 GMT
Saido simply needs to let his football do the talking.
If he feels hard done by then the best response is to show what a dedicated professional he is, get himself fit and get himself among the goals.
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 31, 2017 19:41:04 GMT
He's a youngster and will/has made mistakes. He has some talent and now is the time for him to knuckle down, stop getting involved with all these side shows, stop making shit decisions, show some gratitude for the club & fans that have given him the benefit of the doubt and start realising his full potential.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 19:44:49 GMT
Wade in lads, wade in. Other clubs' fans would be supporting their new striker, willing him on to succeed. But oh no, Stoke City fans can't wait for him to fail. I just can't get my head around it, but it's nothing new. You talk more shit than i do Unpossible....
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 31, 2017 20:05:38 GMT
You talk more shit than i do Unpossible.... You beat me to it ! 😉
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Mar 31, 2017 21:17:41 GMT
I don't believe his story but i ain't gonna slate him. He's trying to find a way out of it but if hes telling porkies and other stuff starts coming out hes going to look daft. He's had a bit of mdma and got collared for it. Just do the time and crack on. I quite take to him a a person on his interviews, seems a nice lad and i think he realises he can come through the other side of all the negativity and be a prolific footballer and known for that with stoke city. He doesn't really strike me as a caner so that will probably be that. Push on youth!
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Post by VolvicStokie on Mar 31, 2017 21:35:05 GMT
Let's take a look at the facts here.
How long was he banned for ?
8 weeks. So.. 2 months for doing what ? MDMA? Coke? Whatever it was rumoured to be simply doesn't add up to his ban length
Let's take a look at players who HAVE failed drugs test and what happened
Mark Bosnich. Terminated Jaap Stam. 5 month ban Edgar David's. 5 month ban Adrian Mutu. 7 month ban Kolo Toure. 6 months
Pretty much all were recreation drugs i think and look at the lengths of bans handed out. All at least double the ban of Saidos
To me.. I'd be inclined to believe what Berahino is saying, as an 8 week ban for having traces of a substance which could have so easily been a simple spike in his drink seems pretty much bang on. Slap on the wrist for being irresponsible and naive..
Yet other players who have have positive readings and presumably high traces of said substance get much longer bans.
All these folk rocking up saying "pull the other one Saido" etc.. have a think about it abit more before being a fucking sheep.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Mar 31, 2017 22:29:28 GMT
Let's take a look at the facts here. How long was he banned for ? 8 weeks. So.. 2 months for doing what ? MDMA? Coke? Whatever it was rumoured to be simply doesn't add up to his ban length Let's take a look at players who HAVE failed drugs test and what happened Mark Bosnich. Terminated Jaap Stam. 5 month ban Edgar David's. 5 month ban Adrian Mutu. 7 month ban Kolo Toure. 6 months Pretty much all were recreation drugs i think and look at the lengths of bans handed out. All at least double the ban of Saidos To me.. I'd be inclined to believe what Berahino is saying, as an 8 week ban for having traces of a substance which could have so easily been a simple spike in his drink seems pretty much bang on. Slap on the wrist for being irresponsible and naive.. Yet other players who have have positive readings and presumably high traces of said substance get much longer bans. All these folk rocking up saying "pull the other one Saido" etc.. have a think about it abit more before being a fucking sheep. This is a really good point. I wonder whether any of them claimed they had been spiked or whether they took it knowingly. The problem the FA have is they'd have to prove it and if Saido pleaded mitigating circumstances they could have reduced the ban? Personally I don't buy it. There could be a motive from a member of the public to do something like this but you'd notice it.
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Mar 31, 2017 22:53:03 GMT
Just wondering ? Did he ever appeal against the suspension and fine imposed by West Bromwich ? Did he ever take it up with the players union ? West Bromwich must know the truth or they wouldn't have taken the actions they did. Are Stoke just supporting there player no matter how stupid it is. Very confusing Fact check: WBA did not suspend or fine SB over this issue. The ban was an FA matter.
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Post by rawli on Mar 31, 2017 23:02:01 GMT
I only care what he does when he crosses the white line.
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Mar 31, 2017 23:04:44 GMT
Fact check: SB states that he has never taken drugs. He has been pictured taking nitrous oxide, admitted using it and was reprimanded by WBA. He was convicted of drunken driving (on the M6), but maybe he doesn't class alcohol as a drug....
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 31, 2017 23:27:54 GMT
And I'm Sienna Miller... couple of goals please Saido and let's forget this?
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