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Post by flea79 on Mar 31, 2017 8:23:11 GMT
If he also had his wallet stolen, he might have some credibility with the claim. Druggies don't spike drinks unless they are looking for something (money, sex, etc). And they don't spike with ecstacy. Maybe he also ended up getting bummed* in the toilets but didn't want to talk about it to the BBC. * Let me make it clear that I don't condone date rape, whether heterosexual or homosexual neither do I but it makes it much easier after, you don't have to cuddle them!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 31, 2017 8:29:53 GMT
He claims the level of drugs found was "really low", which he says proves there was no intent on his behalf Sounds like a person lying to me "Yeah....if I HAD have intended to to do it I'd have made sure I'd have got totally shitfaced!!!"
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 31, 2017 8:31:34 GMT
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Post by tijuanabrass on Mar 31, 2017 8:37:01 GMT
To be fair it happens easily these days. Last week I lost track of my whereabouts for several hours and woke up with vomit all over my shirt. I m pretty sure it was the second jamiesons that took the spiking. Either that or the third of four pints of cider. It definitely wasn't the red wine coz that was at work and I'm pretty sure i can trust them lot. Except Miriam from Accounts.. she's shifty. She has a thing about blokes with northern accents and her uncle, the pharmacist owes her big time since she took the 2 points for the red light camera over New Year. But I digress. Saido s a good lad now he's away from the clutches of honest Tony. I expect big things of the young fellow.
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Post by nutterpotter on Mar 31, 2017 8:41:26 GMT
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Post by homer32 on Mar 31, 2017 9:29:12 GMT
I hope I'm wrong but I think this may be more big money wasted.Coming out with this is just putting more pressure on himself to be a success with us.He should have just said nothing until his career was back on track and scoring goals for us and then told everybody his side of the story if he felt it necessary.He has bad advisors and the club should have stopped him if they knew about it.Keep out of the media spotlight and just get on with scoring goals Saido.The media are like vultures looking for scraps to feed off and Saido has been taken in.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2017 9:36:36 GMT
You really can't fault the way he's handled this. Hopefully he'll get a goal soon.
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Post by superheroantonius on Mar 31, 2017 9:42:40 GMT
He just needs to go out and do positive stuff for ninety minutes.
If he's not scoring he needs to be running defenders out of position, forcing defenders into mistakes, getting on the end of things and getting shots off and working the keeper.
Pretending he's playing for Barcelona and he's just waiting for someone to play him in with an inch perfect pass is not going to win the fans over.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2017 9:45:02 GMT
He just needs to go out and do positive stuff for ninety minutes. If he's not scoring he needs to be running defenders out of position, forcing defenders into mistakes, getting on the end of things and getting shots off and working the keeper. Pretending he's playing for Barcelona and he's just waiting for someone to play him in with an inch perfect pass is not going to win the fans over. He's not doing that though he is? He's worked his bollocks off when he's played!
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Post by stokieoldboy on Mar 31, 2017 9:48:31 GMT
don't understand why Saido's had to mentioned the subject against it was nearly two years ago, and who gives a flying fcuk anyway, he needs now to just knuckle down, get fit, start playing, and then do what he's good at scoring goals, and then hopefully his past will all be forgotten,
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Post by werrington on Mar 31, 2017 9:49:43 GMT
He just needs to go out and do positive stuff for ninety minutes. If he's not scoring he needs to be running defenders out of position, forcing defenders into mistakes, getting on the end of things and getting shots off and working the keeper. Pretending he's playing for Barcelona and he's just waiting for someone to play him in with an inch perfect pass is not going to win the fans over. Why are the fans against him in order to win them over ? You do realise he's started 2 games v the best two teams in the country and the team themselves have been excellent in both of them 1-11 otherwise we would of been battered as you can't carry passengers in those games Try and see past the fact he was never gonna get loads of chances in those games and applaud the defensive job he did Jesus wept
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Post by wuzza on Mar 31, 2017 10:20:11 GMT
We are a terrible side for a striker to be trying to refind his touch in. We have very little continuity or method in our attacking approach and create few chances. I would have thought a spell in the under 23 side for the rest of this season would have been the best plan while he regained both fitness and confidence. It would also give the management time to decide just what the plans are for next season. With regard this current nonsense I really do wonder if we have things under control as we should off the park. Far too many of our players seem to spend their time wallowing in one form of the media or another - it would be nice if they concentrated on the matter of improving performances.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Mar 31, 2017 11:03:59 GMT
Can't say I'm convinced when he doesn't seem to have much of a handle on his argument about the levels in his test - when was his test with respect to this nightclub visit for example? How does he know what the likely blood level would have been if he had taken an intoxicating dose that night? Obviously someone has advised him about this, but to have so little grasp of it when you are the one making the argument in public makes it sound like bullshit. Get someone to draft you a statement if the numbers don't add up.
Would have been better if he'd just said "yeah Tone wasn't picking me anyway so i got off my chops on ecstasy pipes and it was awesome, it shouldn't be illegal anyway"
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Post by werrington on Mar 31, 2017 11:14:50 GMT
Can't say I'm convinced when he doesn't seem to have much of a handle on his argument about the levels in his test - when was his test with respect to this nightclub visit for example? How does he know what the likely blood level would have been if he had taken an intoxicating dose that night? Obviously someone has advised him about this, but to have so little grasp of it when you are the one making the argument in public makes it sound like bullshit. Get someone to draft you a statement if the numbers don't add up. Would have been better if he'd just said "yeah Tone wasn't picking me anyway so i got off my chops on ecstasy pipes and it was awesome, it shouldn't be illegal anyway" That's the point he didn't have to say anything and it would of all just blown away The fact he has tells me that he feels hard done too in the way wba handled it all and now is his chance to put his side of the story
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2017 11:24:39 GMT
Here he is scoring a hat-trick.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 31, 2017 11:51:43 GMT
He just needs to go out and do positive stuff for ninety minutes. If he's not scoring he needs to be running defenders out of position, forcing defenders into mistakes, getting on the end of things and getting shots off and working the keeper. Pretending he's playing for Barcelona and he's just waiting for someone to play him in with an inch perfect pass is not going to win the fans over. Man a-bastard-live
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 11:54:32 GMT
"The money was only resting in my account"
GD
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Post by Rick Grimes on Mar 31, 2017 12:02:43 GMT
If that's genuinely what happened then I'm sure he'll better for getting it off his chest publically and now he can really get on with focusing on his game. He's worked hard when he has played and I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 31, 2017 12:13:15 GMT
I believe you, Saido..thousands wouldn't!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 31, 2017 12:16:22 GMT
He could have done a line from between a prostitutes arse crack for all I care, alls I'm interested in is how he performs for us.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 12:21:45 GMT
Don't know why he's talking about this again. It was old news, nobody was talking about it.
Of course his drink wasn't spiked, what a crock of shite.
Please Saido, concentrate on getting fit and scoring goals. Shit, just have a shot, anything will do at this stage.
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Post by adamsson on Mar 31, 2017 12:32:28 GMT
Can't say I'm convinced when he doesn't seem to have much of a handle on his argument about the levels in his test - when was his test with respect to this nightclub visit for example? How does he know what the likely blood level would have been if he had taken an intoxicating dose that night? Obviously someone has advised him about this, but to have so little grasp of it when you are the one making the argument in public makes it sound like bullshit. Get someone to draft you a statement if the numbers don't add up. Would have been better if he'd just said "yeah Tone wasn't picking me anyway so i got off my chops on ecstasy pipes and it was awesome, it shouldn't be illegal anyway" But it looks like the FA did believe him a short ban and agreeing to keep it private indicates that.
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Mar 31, 2017 12:48:02 GMT
Just wondering ? Did he ever appeal against the suspension and fine imposed by West Bromwich ? Did he ever take it up with the players union ? West Bromwich must know the truth or they wouldn't have taken the actions they did. Are Stoke just supporting there player no matter how stupid it is. Very confusing
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Post by skip on Mar 31, 2017 12:55:25 GMT
It wasn't performing enhancing drugs so FFS, just move on and let the lad learn.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 31, 2017 12:58:13 GMT
Just wondering ? Did he ever appeal against the suspension and fine imposed by West Bromwich ? Did he ever take it up with the players union ? West Bromwich must know the truth or they wouldn't have taken the actions they did. Are Stoke just supporting there player no matter how stupid it is. Very confusing The suspension was imposed by the FA not WBA. The only fine he was threatened with from them (WBA) was after his public rantings 2 years ago for not being allowed to move to Spurs and they subsequently didn't end up fining him anyway....only confusing if you take 2 completely different stories (separated by over a year ) and for no apparent reason, decide to intertwine them.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 31, 2017 13:01:06 GMT
Can't say I'm convinced when he doesn't seem to have much of a handle on his argument about the levels in his test - when was his test with respect to this nightclub visit for example? How does he know what the likely blood level would have been if he had taken an intoxicating dose that night? Obviously someone has advised him about this, but to have so little grasp of it when you are the one making the argument in public makes it sound like bullshit. Get someone to draft you a statement if the numbers don't add up. Would have been better if he'd just said "yeah Tone wasn't picking me anyway so i got off my chops on ecstasy pipes and it was awesome, it shouldn't be illegal anyway" But it looks like the FA did believe him a short ban and agreeing to keep it private indicates that. The agreement to keep it quiet was not exclusive to this case. It was standard FA policy to not make public offences that were for recreational drugs (rather than performance enhancing doping) for players who were not regulars in their clubs games. Someone at WBA however (no idea who) decided to ignore that policy and name him anyway..strangely enough, not until AFTER he'd moved to Stoke
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Mar 31, 2017 13:11:10 GMT
Apologies if I got any information wrong.. Did he make the same statement while at West Bromwich about his drink being spiked ?
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Post by duckling on Mar 31, 2017 13:21:13 GMT
But it looks like the FA did believe him a short ban and agreeing to keep it private indicates that. The agreement to keep it quiet was not exclusive to this case. It was standard FA policy to not make public offences that were for recreational drugs (rather than performance enhancing doping) for players who were not regulars in their clubs games. Someone at WBA however (no idea who) decided to ignore that policy and name him anyway..strangely enough, not until AFTER he'd moved to Stoke That's my understanding too. The FA philosophy is to keep it private while encouraging (requiring?) the player to seek professional help for the drug use. Very sensible. I wonder if the experience at WBA has scarred him psychologically and decreased his mental ability and desire to play football at the highest level. Some people just aren't as resilient to setbacks. I happen to be that way and can't imagine what it would be like to be in the spotlight during a difficult period like that. In addition, many clubs are woefully inadequate at helping players psychologically. It's too early to tell. Next season will be crucial. I hope Stoke fans give him extra support rather than flogging him for every mistake.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 31, 2017 13:22:16 GMT
Apologies if I got any information wrong.. Did he make the same statement while at West Bromwich about his drink being spiked ? no because whilst he was at West Brom no-one in the public or media knew that he been suspended. They kept to FA policy and didn't reveal what was going on. Whether he used that as justification to West Brom during the process with the FA when it initially happened, no-one knows as West Brom (when they revealed what had happened AFTER he had signed for us and against FA policy) conveniently did nothing but name him and then say they refused to comment any further as it wasn't their business as he was no longer their player....although naming him publicly was apparently fine and completely their business even though he was no longer their player.
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Mar 31, 2017 13:33:42 GMT
Ok mick... Understand now. But I think he being very silly by doing this interview. Just opened up the whole thing again. I'd personally lock him away until next season. Get a full pre season in him and all this crap will be gone.
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