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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 19, 2017 9:41:25 GMT
Bit of a rambling explanation from Mark Bowen. Are his calves ever going to be up to the demands of a season? "It's a difficult one with Xherdan with the history of his injury. Obviously he had the calf injury and then before the last game, he trained 2 days before it and then literally the day before the game, he said his other calf was sore"
"So there was a concern there and he was a bit edgy and nervous about it, so he wasn't involved there"
"Now this week, he's trained 3 or 4 days - but when you come into a game against Chelsea, and there's a worry about both his calves...."
"In fairness to him, he wants to play and he feels he's ready having had the 3 or 4 days training in the last 5 or 6 weeks"
"So we've taken a view that we've come off a fantastic performance at Man City - and we want now to see Shaq go away with Switzerland, train every day, get a full 90 in and please God he comes through that and is ready and raring to go for the last 9 games - whereas if you put him in at any time and he does go again and he's not quite ready, we only get him for the last 4 or 5 games, rather than the last 9"He's an expensive luxury that we simply can't afford. We've got Ramadan. I'd move Shaq on in the summer if we get any half decent offer. I'd reluctantly move him on if we recouped our money. A muscle injury is always on the horizon and always will be We're currently paying Bojan, Shaq, Imbula and Joselu £1m-a-month. We've got to start getting bang from our buck in the wage bill.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Mar 19, 2017 9:47:14 GMT
He's an expensive luxury that we simply can't afford. We've got Ramadan. I'd move Shaq on in the summer if we get any half decent offer. I'd reluctantly move him on if we recouped our money. A muscle injury is always on the horizon and always will be We're currently paying Bojan, Shaq, Imbula and Joselu £1m-a-month. We've got to start getting bang from our buck in the wage bill. You're lucky to get 50% of games out of him per season. Even if he was absolutely brilliant when he did play (which he isn't) you'd still struggle to justify his wages when you never know from one week to the next if he's going to be fit or not. He's hit and miss when he does play and consistently dropping out at last minute due to injury. Ramadan looks so positive. He works incredibly hard defensively and offers creativity going forward. It's a no brainer for me.
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 19, 2017 10:02:01 GMT
Shaqiri or Walters???? It's a difficult one!
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Post by coupe on Mar 19, 2017 10:27:46 GMT
Cant understand people saying we can't afford Shaq sitting on the bench on 70k a week, they are right but Sir Peter can and he is the benefactor. Match winner he is but consistent he is not, I like him but afraid it's not worth him playing less than 15 games a season so time to move him on.
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Post by dadofsam on Mar 19, 2017 11:01:25 GMT
OOh I'm feeling edgy and nervy about my sore calf Mr Bowen
Well you have a little sit down this week eh
Thanks Mr Bowen
JUST FUCK OFF AND GROW A PAIR
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Post by mozzer on Mar 19, 2017 11:34:27 GMT
This sums up our season. At least with pulls we could actually fucking defend. Hughes has totally lost the plot. Any chance of explaining why Grant has the 4th highest number of clean sheets of any keeper on the division then? Agendas. He is actually joint 4th but in 7th ??? And how does he rank in the league table of letting 4 in per game......... Not having a go at Grant because he was a signing that we should have made 12 months previously and without him I feel we would be in the bottom 3 by now, unfortunately he is nothing more than a bang average first team keeper or a reliable reserve keeper who will give you good service when called up on, he is a keeper that should be required for short spells and was a definite upgrade from the 3 stooges that we had in reserve when Butland got injured, he makes some world class stops but then commits silly basic mistakes to bring the performance back to average. Been a great signing for Stoke as a reserve back up keeper but 12 months too late by the management team that has ultimately cost us....which is obviously not his fault.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 11:35:52 GMT
Well about two thirds of the squad seem not to want to play for us so it wouldn't exactly be surprising. People about Crouch, Walters and others but at least they put a shift in. Frankly I'd sack most of these 'fancy football' tossers off and stick with the ones that'll put a shift in. We might end up back with hoofball but that's pretty much where we are again anyhow. Can't be much worse than this turgid shit season has been. This sums up our season. At least with pulls we could actually fucking defend. Hughes has totally lost the plot. For fuck's sake, what horse shit.
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Post by chayzenbacon on Mar 19, 2017 11:44:58 GMT
Well about two thirds of the squad seem not to want to play for us so it wouldn't exactly be surprising. People about Crouch, Walters and others but at least they put a shift in. Frankly I'd sack most of these 'fancy football' tossers off and stick with the ones that'll put a shift in. We might end up back with hoofball but that's pretty much where we are again anyhow. Can't be much worse than this turgid shit season has been. This sums up our season. At least with pulls we could actually fucking defend. Hughes has totally lost the plot. I think you need to employ Google and remind yourself of our record against Chelsea under "pulls".
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 19, 2017 11:45:19 GMT
Is the injury a persistent small tear in his calf or is it just stiffness and tightness in the calf. The latter shouldn't stop him playing with a bit of care and attention.
He does come across a bit soft which is a pity
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Post by alster on Mar 19, 2017 11:45:58 GMT
On the bus on the way to the ground in amongst the usual hilarity of expectation at facing yet another tough test I'm sure I heard Mark Bowen on Radio Stoke saying something like, "Shaq is fit but we decided to let him take the time, play his international game and then hopefully be ready for a return after that." We'll see. No use re-introducing the death penalty over it. It would have been a hiding to nothing for him. It was a game for a team packed with loads of running. He selected a team with legs and it worked well there will be plenty of more suitable games to try to get something a little more creative to click up front.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Mar 19, 2017 11:49:03 GMT
He has a lot of ability but if his body isn't built for football as has been suggested then.he needs to change his job or play with some discomfort.
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Post by milky on Mar 19, 2017 11:50:20 GMT
Any chance of explaining why Grant has the 4th highest number of clean sheets of any keeper on the division then? Agendas. He is actually joint 4th but in 7th ??? And how does he rank in the league table of letting 4 in per game......... Not having a go at Grant because he was a signing that we should have made 12 months previously and without him I feel we would be in the bottom 3 by now, unfortunately he is nothing more than a bang average first team keeper or a reliable reserve keeper who will give you good service when called up on, he is a keeper that should be required for short spells and was a definite upgrade from the 3 stooges that we had in reserve when Butland got injured, he makes some world class stops but then commits silly basic mistakes to bring the performance back to average. Been a great signing for Stoke as a reserve back up keeper but 12 months too late by the management team that has ultimately cost us....which is obviously not his fault. It was aimed directly at another one of the "things were better under Pulis "brigade who claimed we couldn't defend.This week alone we became the first side to keep a clean sheet at Man City and kept the runaway leaders at bay bar 2 catastrophic individual errors that you can never legislate for. Clearly his post was bollocks.
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Post by Roland the Thompson Gunner on Mar 19, 2017 11:58:52 GMT
I've said this before, he should stay away from the gym for 5 years and shed some of his muscle bulk. In the good old days he would have been called 'musclebound' and I'm sure it contributes to his endless injuries. If you check Crouchie's career injury record, he has barely missed a game through muscle injuries, because he hasn't got any!!
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 19, 2017 12:13:29 GMT
Bit of a rambling explanation from Mark Bowen. Are his calves ever going to be up to the demands of a season? "It's a difficult one with Xherdan with the history of his injury. Obviously he had the calf injury and then before the last game, he trained 2 days before it and then literally the day before the game, he said his other calf was sore"
"So there was a concern there and he was a bit edgy and nervous about it, so he wasn't involved there"
"Now this week, he's trained 3 or 4 days - but when you come into a game against Chelsea, and there's a worry about both his calves...."
"In fairness to him, he wants to play and he feels he's ready having had the 3 or 4 days training in the last 5 or 6 weeks"
"So we've taken a view that we've come off a fantastic performance at Man City - and we want now to see Shaq go away with Switzerland, train every day, get a full 90 in and please God he comes through that and is ready and raring to go for the last 9 games - whereas if you put him in at any time and he does go again and he's not quite ready, we only get him for the last 4 or 5 games, rather than the last 9"Strange how he seems to be fit for the majority of Switzerland's games. He is a very skilful player, of that there is no doubt, but he's way too injury prone......... or is it work shy?
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Post by Jimm on Mar 19, 2017 12:17:19 GMT
I honestly don't think he wants to play for us
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Post by milky on Mar 19, 2017 12:26:05 GMT
Absent again with another injury..apparently. Really? How many games has he started this season? Something doesn't seem right or is it just my suspicious mind? Does Shaq still want to play for us? I have my doubts. Well about two thirds of the squad seem not to want to play for us so it wouldn't exactly be surprising. People about Crouch, Walters and others but at least they put a shift in. Frankly I'd sack most of these 'fancy football' tossers off and stick with the ones that'll put a shift in. We might end up back with hoofball but that's pretty much where we are again anyhow. Can't be much worse than this turgid shit season has been. Name names then..Who hasn't put a shift in of late ? Your self styled drama queen act is frankly becoming tedious and boring and ,just like Benji,you're turning into a sad parody of yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:25:34 GMT
That alpine Messi statement was a load of bollocks, wasn't it? The last few times he played, he lost the ball umpteen times!
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Post by thegift on Mar 20, 2017 8:40:20 GMT
This sums up our season. At least with pulls we could actually fucking defend. Hughes has totally lost the plot. I think you need to employ Google and remind yourself of our record against Chelsea under "pulls". We also didn't lose 4-0 most away games to the top 6 under pulls
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Post by thegift on Mar 20, 2017 8:41:03 GMT
Shaqiri or Walters???? It's a difficult one! walters
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 20, 2017 10:27:12 GMT
I think you need to employ Google and remind yourself of our record against Chelsea under "pulls". We also didn't lose 4-0 most away games to the top 6 under pulls No sometimes we lost 5 - 0 away to teams in the relegation zone.
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Post by milky on Mar 20, 2017 10:40:10 GMT
I think you need to employ Google and remind yourself of our record against Chelsea under "pulls". We also didn't lose 4-0 most away games to the top 6 under pulls [br We didn't set out to win away games under Pulis.
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 20, 2017 10:41:28 GMT
Shaqiri or Walters???? It's a difficult one! walters Your choice will see us continue scoring very few goals! Walters will run and chase to the defender who has the ball as the defender passes the ball away. He will flick headers on to no-one. He will never carry the ball past a defender and create. He will try to run the channels but has no pace. Shaqiri has been equally disappointing in terms of his transfer fee and his continuous injuries but the one thing he can do is bring Arnautovic's game to life. His link play has been responsible for his goals. Shaqiri will lift Berahino's game because he will pass the ball accurately into areas where Berahino is running. Shaqiri will also score more goals if played in the right position. After five years Hughes should have us in a much better place than seeing Walters and Crouch getting in the starting eleven. Shaqiri hasn't set the world alight but we do need a much better goal threat. Arnautovic, Sobhi and Berahino give us balance as an attacking force. It now needs a fit Shaqiri playing in his best position to conduct the game.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Mar 20, 2017 10:50:20 GMT
I think you need to employ Google and remind yourself of our record against Chelsea under "pulls". We also didn't lose 4-0 most away games to the top 6 under pulls Correct there was a 7-0 and a 5-0.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 20, 2017 10:57:33 GMT
Your choice will see us continue scoring very few goals! Walters will run and chase to the defender who has the ball as the defender passes the ball away. He will flick headers on to no-one. He will never carry the ball past a defender and create. He will try to run the channels but has no pace. Shaqiri has been equally disappointing in terms of his transfer fee and his continuous injuries but the one thing he can do is bring Arnautovic's game to life. His link play has been responsible for his goals. Shaqiri will lift Berahino's game because he will pass the ball accurately into areas where Berahino is running. Shaqiri will also score more goals if played in the right position. After five years Hughes should have us in a much better place than seeing Walters and Crouch getting in the starting eleven. Shaqiri hasn't set the world alight but we do need a much better goal threat. Arnautovic, Sobhi and Berahino give us balance as an attacking force. It now needs a fit Shaqiri playing in his best position to conduct the game. 'Shaqiri equality dissapointing with Walters' Are you having a laugh? SJW pisses blood for Stoke. Shaqiri can't be arsed. Shaqiri doesn't want to play for Stoke that's patently fucking obvious. Walters would die for us. 'Equally dissapointing' FFS ???
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 20, 2017 11:01:19 GMT
We're a better team with him in the side, as much as many of you try to deny it. However, this dodgy calf syndrome is becoming tiresome.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 20, 2017 12:05:25 GMT
Be interesting to see if he turns out for the Swiss at the weekend!
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Post by jimmygscfc on Mar 20, 2017 12:09:22 GMT
Be interesting to see if he turns out for the Swiss at the weekend! I'm sure he will and then he'll be injured after the game
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 20, 2017 19:20:44 GMT
Your choice will see us continue scoring very few goals! Walters will run and chase to the defender who has the ball as the defender passes the ball away. He will flick headers on to no-one. He will never carry the ball past a defender and create. He will try to run the channels but has no pace. Shaqiri has been equally disappointing in terms of his transfer fee and his continuous injuries but the one thing he can do is bring Arnautovic's game to life. His link play has been responsible for his goals. Shaqiri will lift Berahino's game because he will pass the ball accurately into areas where Berahino is running. Shaqiri will also score more goals if played in the right position. After five years Hughes should have us in a much better place than seeing Walters and Crouch getting in the starting eleven. Shaqiri hasn't set the world alight but we do need a much better goal threat. Arnautovic, Sobhi and Berahino give us balance as an attacking force. It now needs a fit Shaqiri playing in his best position to conduct the game. 'Shaqiri equality dissapointing with Walters' Are you having a laugh? SJW pisses blood for Stoke. Shaqiri can't be arsed. Shaqiri doesn't want to play for Stoke that's patently fucking obvious. Walters would die for us. 'Equally dissapointing' FFS ??? Thanks for your opinion and I respect it but there are thousands of young men who will run themselves into the ground for Stoke City. The problem as with Walters IMO is not good enough. I understand your comments about Shaqiri but he has been played out of position and until we sign better I will still go with my opinion.
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Post by march4 on Mar 20, 2017 19:43:05 GMT
The performances of Ramadan show us just how poor Shaqiri has been for us.
A change of club seems best for all parties.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 19:46:36 GMT
The performances of Ramadan show us just how poor Shaqiri has been for us. A change of club seems best for all parties. Agreed. Sell. His heart just isn't in it. Need to find more Ramadans. More Grants. More Butlands. More Arnies. More Allens.
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