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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 19:51:39 GMT
'Shaqiri equality dissapointing with Walters' Are you having a laugh? SJW pisses blood for Stoke. Shaqiri can't be arsed. Shaqiri doesn't want to play for Stoke that's patently fucking obvious. Walters would die for us. 'Equally dissapointing' FFS ??? Thanks for your opinion and I respect it but there are thousands of young men who will run themselves into the ground for Stoke City. The problem as with Walters IMO is not good enough. I understand your comments about Shaqiri but he has been played out of position and until we sign better I will still go with my opinion. Shaqiri has been played on the right, his preferred position. Walters is a perfectly good mid table pressing striker, just not going to be prolific. Neither has been disappointing for me, besides Shaq's injuries.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 20, 2017 19:52:16 GMT
We can all see what Hughes was trying to do when signing the likes of Shaquiri. And for a while it worked.
But he needs to learn from the Joselu / Imbula / Shaquiri type of signings when he's recruiting for next season.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 20, 2017 20:32:36 GMT
It is so hard to look past the muscle injury shenanigans when you're trying to look forward and plan.
Last season he missed 9/36 games we played after he joined and limped off in 3 more (Southampton H, Southampton A, and Bournemouth H)
This season he's missed 15/29 games (and limped off early v Swansea)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 22:46:52 GMT
It is so hard to look past the muscle injury shenanigans when you're trying to look forward and plan. Last season he missed 9/36 games we played after he joined and limped off in 3 more (Southampton H, Southampton A, and Bournemouth H) This season he's missed 15/29 games (and limped off early v Swansea) Good lord. Terrible stats. I'm generally supportive and patient with players but I hope he sorts out a move elsewhere this summer.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 21, 2017 0:49:15 GMT
I've had enough of him, and I dare say the manager has as well. The guy is the epitome of the term show pony, but having been promptly shown the door at bigger clubs like Milan and Bayern, who is going to buy him?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 21, 2017 2:11:36 GMT
I've had enough of him, and I dare say the manager has as well. The guy is the epitome of the term show pony, but having been promptly shown the door at bigger clubs like Milan and Bayern, who is going to buy him? He's got the name there will be plenty of takers home and abroad for 12m
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 21, 2017 6:57:34 GMT
I've had enough of him, and I dare say the manager has as well. The guy is the epitome of the term show pony, but having been promptly shown the door at bigger clubs like Milan and Bayern, who is going to buy him? He's got the name there will be plenty of takers home and abroad for 12m Sadly I can't see many takers in this country not good enough for a top eight side West Brom are out he'd have to work to hard He would not be any good in a relegation fight no bottle Just a minute big name flatters to decive always injured The dildo twins it is Whilst he's permanently on the injury list he can use his muscular thighs to sort that Brady bird out
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 14:48:40 GMT
He's got the name there will be plenty of takers home and abroad for 12m Sadly I can't see many takers in this country not good enough for a top eight side West Brom are out he'd have to work to hard He would not be any good in a relegation fight no bottle Just a minute big name flatters to decive always injured The dildo twins it is Whilst he's permanently on the injury list he can use his muscular thighs to sort that Brady bird out When he's been on the pitch he's been a fantastic player. Creates a lot more than anyone else, bar Arnie. Not really flattering to deceive. Only (and i mean only) problem is his injuries.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 21, 2017 14:53:11 GMT
Sadly I can't see many takers in this country not good enough for a top eight side West Brom are out he'd have to work to hard He would not be any good in a relegation fight no bottle Just a minute big name flatters to decive always injured The dildo twins it is Whilst he's permanently on the injury list he can use his muscular thighs to sort that Brady bird out When he's been on the pitch he's been a fantastic player. Creates a lot more than anyone else, bar Arnie. Not really flattering to deceive. Only (and i mean only) problem is his injuries. Sorry mate I can't agree with that,for me his last decent game was Hull away in October which says it all
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 15:01:23 GMT
When he's been on the pitch he's been a fantastic player. Creates a lot more than anyone else, bar Arnie. Not really flattering to deceive. Only (and i mean only) problem is his injuries. Sorry mate I can't agree with that,for me his last decent game was Hull away in October which says it all Did well against Sunderland away, worked his socks off against man Utd at home and Saints at home, amongst others. Honestly can't remember him playing poorly in a game this season at least. He hasn't played in any of the 4-x losses besides chelsea away. Most tellingly, in the 14 games he's started this season, we've only lost 3, drawn 5 and won 7.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 21, 2017 15:16:49 GMT
Sorry mate I can't agree with that,for me his last decent game was Hull away in October which says it all Did well against Sunderland away, worked his socks off against man Utd at home and Saints at home, amongst others. Honestly can't remember him playing poorly in a game this season at least. He hasn't played in any of the 4-x losses besides chelsea away. Most tellingly, in the 14 games he's started this season, we've only lost 3, drawn 5 and won 7. Saints at home?Thats the game he had a right strop and kicked the seat when rightly fetched off.I'll give you the 45 minutes v Sunderland but working his socks off us something I would never ever use to describe Shaqiriđ
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 21, 2017 15:19:44 GMT
Shaq is a bloody good player but I fear his injury problems ar going to stop him reaching his true potential.
When he is fit he is one of our "next level" players.
Sadly if he can't maintain his fitness we should probably be looking to get a replacement in. I would be surprised if we couldn't get close to what we paid for him.
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Post by reddipotter on Mar 21, 2017 15:30:05 GMT
Listening to Mark Bowen's explanation of his absence from the squad on Saturday gave me the distinct impression that Shaqiri was on his way out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 15:32:47 GMT
Did well against Sunderland away, worked his socks off against man Utd at home and Saints at home, amongst others. Honestly can't remember him playing poorly in a game this season at least. He hasn't played in any of the 4-x losses besides chelsea away. Most tellingly, in the 14 games he's started this season, we've only lost 3, drawn 5 and won 7. Saints at home?Thats the game he had a right strop and kicked the seat when rightly fetched off.I'll give you the 45 minutes v Sunderland but working his socks off us something I would never ever use to describe Shaqiriđ Which is exactly why i was mentioning it, in those two games, and a couple of others, he very much did work his socks off, can't remember which game but the one where he sprinted 70 yards chasing down a defender, won the throw in and then gave a big 'Come on!' to the crowd sticks in the mind!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 21, 2017 15:37:21 GMT
Saints at home?Thats the game he had a right strop and kicked the seat when rightly fetched off.I'll give you the 45 minutes v Sunderland but working his socks off us something I would never ever use to describe Shaqiriđ Which is exactly why i was mentioning it, in those two games, and a couple of others, he very much did work his socks off, can't remember which game but the one where he sprinted 70 yards chasing down a defender, won the throw in and then gave a big 'Come on!' to the crowd sticks in the mind! Can't remember that mate at all,but I've thought of another game where he did ok and that was Watford away with his great skill on the touchline.Like I said earlier I probably expect a little more from a player who the club have forked out such big money for but up to now for me he hasn't lived up to expectations.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 15:41:57 GMT
Saints at home?Thats the game he had a right strop and kicked the seat when rightly fetched off.I'll give you the 45 minutes v Sunderland but working his socks off us something I would never ever use to describe Shaqiriđ Which is exactly why i was mentioning it, in those two games, and a couple of others, he very much did work his socks off, can't remember which game but the one where he sprinted 70 yards chasing down a defender, won the throw in and then gave a big 'Come on!' to the crowd sticks in the mind! Manchester United at home.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 15:52:26 GMT
Which is exactly why i was mentioning it, in those two games, and a couple of others, he very much did work his socks off, can't remember which game but the one where he sprinted 70 yards chasing down a defender, won the throw in and then gave a big 'Come on!' to the crowd sticks in the mind! Can't remember that mate at all,but I've thought of another game where he did ok and that was Watford away with his great skill on the touchline.Like I said earlier I probably expect a little more from a player who the club have forked out such big money for but up to now for me he hasn't lived up to expectations. The only thing that's annoyed me is the injuries, i reckon that's why more people see him as a failed signing. That and our general form as a team since 2016.
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Post by mrred on Mar 21, 2017 16:36:02 GMT
I think we've hit the limit on the 'dogs home' signings. The majority of them have been complete duds with Arnie being the exception. Bojan's a bit of a snowflake, Shaqiri's got calves made of cheese strings and Imbula is work-shy. If we actually want to push on, I think we're going to have to accept we need to spend some serious cash. Like Crouch in 2011. Big name, done his job, never let us down.
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 21, 2017 17:03:57 GMT
Did well against Sunderland away, worked his socks off against man Utd at home and Saints at home, amongst others. Honestly can't remember him playing poorly in a game this season at least. He hasn't played in any of the 4-x losses besides chelsea away. Most tellingly, in the 14 games he's started this season, we've only lost 3, drawn 5 and won 7. Saints at home?Thats the game he had a right strop and kicked the seat when rightly fetched off.I'll give you the 45 minutes v Sunderland but working his socks off us something I would never ever use to describe Shaqiriđ They all worked their socks off in that game as we were down to 10 men very early on. Personally i think Shaq's work rate is generally good; he is constantly making himself available to receive the ball and does his fair share of tracking back without having quite the same effect as Joe Allen. Shaq's only draw back for me (it is a big draw back) is his inability to stay fit enough to stay fit.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 21, 2017 17:03:59 GMT
I think we've hit the limit on the 'dogs home' signings. The majority of them have been complete duds with Arnie being the exception. Bojan's a bit of a snowflake, Shaqiri's got calves made of cheese strings and Imbula is work-shy. If we actually want to push on, I think we're going to have to accept we need to spend some serious cash. Like Crouch in 2011. Big name, done his job, never let us down. There's many different ways of creating a squad. We could sign a few championship/league 1 players of we think they are good enough. There are lots of good players in those leagues who would throw their body on the line for our club.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 21, 2017 17:11:03 GMT
Saints at home?Thats the game he had a right strop and kicked the seat when rightly fetched off.I'll give you the 45 minutes v Sunderland but working his socks off us something I would never ever use to describe Shaqiriđ They all worked their socks off in that game as we were down to 10 men very early on. Personally i think Shaq's work rate is generally good; he is constantly making himself available to receive the ball and does his fair share of tracking back without having quite the same effect as Joe Allen. Shaq's only draw back for me (it is a big draw back) is his inability to stay fit enough to stay fit. Fair enough mate that's your opinion but I beg to differ
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 21, 2017 17:32:25 GMT
Shaqiri has been good for us when he's played. Better than last season. He was instrumental in our home draw v west brom then wins against sunderland and hull which turned around our bad start.
But there are two issues, his muscle injuries and secondly, he just isn't as good as sobhi so he is not going to get first team footy on a regular basis.
Whether the management team try him in the middle just off the striker I don't know, that might rejuvenate him
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Post by thehoof on Mar 21, 2017 18:08:30 GMT
Sorry mate I can't agree with that,for me his last decent game was Hull away in October which says it all Did well against Sunderland away, worked his socks off against man Utd at home and Saints at home, amongst others. Honestly can't remember him playing poorly in a game this season at least. He hasn't played in any of the 4-x losses besides chelsea away. Most tellingly, in the 14 games he's started this season, we've only lost 3, drawn 5 and won 7. That says it all but will be wasted on the majority -in fact take off the 4 points that he was directly responsible for (Hull & Boro away) and we'd definitely be living up to Benji's prediction !
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 21, 2017 18:23:14 GMT
Before the emergence of Ramadan I thought Shaqiri was an absolute must to have in the team. Without him there was only ever the ball up to Arnie. I think Arnie and him work well and Arnie really does prefer the left wing, the idea of going outside of his man on his right foot seemed to terrify him on Satdee.
I don't think it's time to get rid but it is time for him to sort his pins out. If either Arnie, Shaqiri or Ramadan get injured, the other two can be moved around to cover the missing player.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 21, 2017 18:27:18 GMT
Before the emergence of Ramadan I thought Shaqiri was an absolute must to have in the team. Without him there was only ever the ball up to Arnie. I think Arnie and him work well and Arnie really does prefer the left wing, the idea of going outside of his man on his right foot seemed to terrify him on Satdee. I don't think it's time to get rid but it is time for him to sort his pins out. If either Arnie, Shaqiri or Ramadan get injured, the other two can be moved around to cover the missing player. We've got great wide options there and with diouf and walters we have enough experienced cover to allow ngoy and verlinden to have a more direct entry into the squad than signing any more wide players.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 21, 2017 18:36:51 GMT
Before the emergence of Ramadan I thought Shaqiri was an absolute must to have in the team. Without him there was only ever the ball up to Arnie. I think Arnie and him work well and Arnie really does prefer the left wing, the idea of going outside of his man on his right foot seemed to terrify him on Satdee. I don't think it's time to get rid but it is time for him to sort his pins out. If either Arnie, Shaqiri or Ramadan get injured, the other two can be moved around to cover the missing player. We've got great wide options there and with diouf and walters we have enough experienced cover to allow ngoy and verlinden to have a more direct entry into the squad than signing any more wide players. I'm looking forward to seeing this Verlinden lad................Ngoy is shit, Whelan says so
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Post by thegift on Mar 21, 2017 19:47:10 GMT
I don't even think this guy is injured.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 21, 2017 20:53:03 GMT
We've got great wide options there and with diouf and walters we have enough experienced cover to allow ngoy and verlinden to have a more direct entry into the squad than signing any more wide players. I'm looking forward to seeing this Verlinden lad................Ngoy is shit, Whelan says so Haha. Yeah that was funny. To be fair as a player he looks the compete opposite of Whelan; agile, mobile, young, indecisive and doesn't take the easy option. I'd like to see him have more game time; 5/10 mins here and there.... and that goes the same for Whelan.
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Post by mrred on Mar 22, 2017 11:56:18 GMT
I think we've hit the limit on the 'dogs home' signings. The majority of them have been complete duds with Arnie being the exception. Bojan's a bit of a snowflake, Shaqiri's got calves made of cheese strings and Imbula is work-shy. If we actually want to push on, I think we're going to have to accept we need to spend some serious cash. Like Crouch in 2011. Big name, done his job, never let us down. There's many different ways of creating a squad. We could sign a few championship/league 1 players of we think they are good enough. There are lots of good players in those leagues who would throw their body on the line for our club. Wouldn't dispute it. Always been an advocate of us looking to the Championship to improve our squad. I'd take a player that is hungry to play in the league (more importantly- for us) and prove himself over a big name that's come here because he's got fuck all other options and it's easy money.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 22, 2017 12:31:38 GMT
I don't even think this guy is injured. Hmmm.Normally I'm not one for conspiracy theories.However,my lad was one of the mascots for the Everton game and the bloke who organises it all simply told us all that 'Shaq hadn't turned up'.Now it could be a coincindence that he's not featured since and he is indeed injured but I have my doubts.
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