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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 18, 2017 18:44:30 GMT
Cameron defensivley was ace but his passing really lets him and us down. Get Afellay in the side and you might see Stoke keep the ball and pass it better.....Just saying. π
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2017 18:45:59 GMT
Cameron defensivley was ace but his passing really lets him and us down. Get Afellay in the side and you might see Stoke keep the ball and pass it better.....Just saying. π Haha. We need a massive overhaul in midfield. Top to bottom. Lots of endeavour, zero quality.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Mar 18, 2017 18:48:14 GMT
They've been excellent against Man City and Chelsea. I'd like to see them retain their place with Shaqiri ahead of them for the rest of the season.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 18, 2017 18:50:12 GMT
Get Afellay in the side and you might see Stoke keep the ball and pass it better.....Just saying. π Haha. We need a massive overhaul in midfield. Top to bottom. Lots of endeavour, zero quality. Afellay is quality.π Your Specsavers appointment is on Tues 10.30. Don't be late !
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2017 18:51:33 GMT
Haha. We need a massive overhaul in midfield. Top to bottom. Lots of endeavour, zero quality. Afellay is quality.π Your Specsavers appointment is on Tues 10.30. Don't be late ! He really isn't. Like every other midfielder we have, he's massively overrated.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 18, 2017 19:01:32 GMT
Afellay is quality.π Your Specsavers appointment is on Tues 10.30. Don't be late ! He really isn't. Like every other midfielder we have, he's massively overrated. I will let you have the last word bayern even if you are talking shit !..π...When you get to 100,000 posts I will have a drink on you.π
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 18, 2017 19:03:41 GMT
Haha. We need a massive overhaul in midfield. Top to bottom. Lots of endeavour, zero quality. Afellay is quality.π Your Specsavers appointment is on Tues 10.30. Don't be late ! He's okay but that's about it, keeps the ball well but creates nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 19:06:19 GMT
Afellay is quality.π Your Specsavers appointment is on Tues 10.30. Don't be late ! He's okay but that's about it, keeps the ball well but creates nothing. Unfortunately I agree with this. He's very smooth, is excellent at keeping the ball,but doesn't create enough. We need a creative midfield player that is mobile.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 18, 2017 19:11:31 GMT
Afellay is quality.π Your Specsavers appointment is on Tues 10.30. Don't be late ! He's okay but that's about it, keeps the ball well but creates nothing. He keeps the football better than anybody else we've got...Put him in the middle and let him feed Arnie, Sobhi and Berahino. We just keep giving the ball away far too much.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 18, 2017 19:12:39 GMT
He's okay but that's about it, keeps the ball well but creates nothing. He keeps the football better than anybody else we've got...Put him in the middle and let him feed Arnie, Sobhi and Berahino. We just keep giving the ball away far too much. Thats the thing, he doesn't really do feeding due to a lack of creativity.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 18, 2017 19:14:44 GMT
He keeps the football better than anybody else we've got...Put him in the middle and let him feed Arnie, Sobhi and Berahino. We just keep giving the ball away far too much. Thats the thing, he doesn't really do feeding due to a lack of creativity. I've booked you in at 11.00 after bayern.π
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 19:28:21 GMT
I thought Geoff and Joe were both excellent today, their energy and athleticism provided the dynamics the heart of our teamΒ has beenΒ missing all season, Allen is much better suited to his current role than playing as a number 10.
The only thing we were missing today was that little bit of creativity in the centre of the park toΒ create some opportunities offensively.
I canΒ totally see why Hughes went with SJW against Citeh and Chelsea but against Leicester I think I'd be tempted to play Shaqiri as a number 10 behind Berahino.
Β Problem is with Bards red card, if Johnson is not fit it'll be Cameron @ RB next week. 3 at the back with Diouf at wing back. Drop Berahino for Muniesa.....
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Post by alster on Mar 18, 2017 19:30:11 GMT
So refreshing to have that energy in midfield, they went toe to toe with the best in the league and came out of it with a hell of a lot of credit. Yes you could nit pick but it would be churlish. It makes such a difference removing the immobile players and it shows in the crowd too they get behind the team because they are creating a bit of verve and buzz. Its a good while since I've really wanted to stay until the final whistle and clap them off but I did today they did us proud.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 18, 2017 19:30:56 GMT
Afellay is quality.π Your Specsavers appointment is on Tues 10.30. Don't be late ! He really isn't. Like every other midfielder we have, he's massively overrated. Nobody is massively overrated you tool. They are all decent footballers who offer different things. We do need more quality but we still have good players. Finding the right balance and blend is the difficult bit. A word for Walters today... shite.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2017 20:10:03 GMT
He really isn't. Like every other midfielder we have, he's massively overrated. Nobody is massively overrated you tool. Β They are all decent footballers who offer different things. Β We do need more quality but we still have good players. Β Finding the right balance and blend is the difficult bit. A word for Walters today... shite. They do and that makes them overrated. Midfielders have to be the most well rounded players by the nature of what they do. We have a collection that if we could roll into one we'd have a good midfielder.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 18, 2017 20:11:06 GMT
Thought Cameron was outstanding today .
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Post by superheroantonius on Mar 18, 2017 20:28:45 GMT
Joe Allen in particular showed he can compete with top quality opposition. Excellent effort and performance. True But surely people must have twigged the player who played us off the park in the league Cup semi final and was one of the stars of euro 2016 can play at the Highest level? Then again, maybe not??
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Post by wuzza on Mar 18, 2017 20:33:01 GMT
Joe Allen in particular showed he can compete with top quality opposition. Excellent effort and performance. True But surely people must have twigged the player who played us off the park in the league Cup semi final and was one of the stars of euro 2016 can play at the Highest level? Then again, maybe not?? I doubt there would be a queue of 'top 7' clubs if he decided he wanted a move.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Mar 18, 2017 20:35:50 GMT
Both excellent defensively today, but in fairness to Bayern, they both gave up possession to easily and too often.
Would like to see this:
Cameron Allen
Arnie Affelay Sohbi
Berahino
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Post by metalhead on Mar 18, 2017 20:41:52 GMT
Wow. We couldn't keep the ball today and created fuck all. That falls on the midfield. They worked bloody hard but the passing in there let us down as a force to actually do anything and not just spoil the game. I only said wow...
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Post by juiceandbits on Mar 18, 2017 20:57:27 GMT
I think they're a very good combo together though in a 4-4-2 there's a distinct lack of creativity from them. A no. 10 in our system is vital.
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Post by kustokie on Mar 18, 2017 20:59:28 GMT
I thought Geoff and Joe were both excellent today, their energy and athleticism provided the dynamics the heart of our team has been missing all season, Allen is much better suited to his current role than playing as a number 10.
The only thing we were missing today was that little bit of creativity in the centre of the park to create some opportunities offensively.
I can totally see why Hughes went with SJW against Citeh and Chelsea but against Leicester I think I'd be tempted to play Shaqiri as a number 10 behind Berahino.
Problem is with Bards red card, if Johnson is not fit it'll be Cameron @ RB next week. Three at the back with Diouf as a WB would be worth considering. But this does highlight the need to sign a RB in the Summer.
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Post by kustokie on Mar 18, 2017 21:00:46 GMT
Cameron is a lot more mobile that Whelan, but he couldn't pass gas after a chili dinner.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 18, 2017 21:05:29 GMT
Afellay is quality.π Your Specsavers appointment is on Tues 10.30. Don't be late ! He really isn't. Like every other midfielder we have, he's massively overrated. Can't agree with this. Afellay is a quality player, cool on the ball under pressure, rarely gives the hall away and pick out incisive passes. You're always going on about his backwards passing but I don't it as been excessive.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 18, 2017 21:12:27 GMT
We have a few players who are fine athletes but lousy footballers.
Joe Allen and geoff Cameron are two such players.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 18, 2017 21:19:27 GMT
He really isn't. Like every other midfielder we have, he's massively overrated. Can't agree with this. Afellay is a quality player, cool on the ball under pressure, rarely gives the hall away and pick out incisive passes. You're always going on about his backwards passing but I don't it as been excessive. Another myth is that he's slow. He glides around the pitch like a Gazelle π..........π
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Post by thehoof on Mar 18, 2017 23:12:24 GMT
Cameron defensivley was ace but his passing really lets him and us down. Get Afellay in the side and you might see Stoke keep the ball and pass it better.....Just saying. π Can't agree with this. Afellay is a quality player, cool on the ball under pressure, rarely gives the hall away and pick out incisive passes. You're always going on about his backwards passing but I don't it as been excessive. Another myth is that he's slow. He glides around the pitch like a Gazelle π..........π Go on then, name this one incisive pass that Afellay has played. He is good at keeping possession in his own half and always passes it sideways or backwards, and that is why Bayern is right. I am sick of asking for all the stats that point to what an attacking threat he is and getting no reply - that's because he simply does not threaten to create a goal in any way shape or form - go on dig up the stats of Affelay the super creator!
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 18, 2017 23:15:58 GMT
Both excellent but guilty of giving away possession on occasions. This game was made for NZonz. Shame we didn't have him today
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 18, 2017 23:31:28 GMT
Get Afellay in the side and you might see Stoke keep the ball and pass it better.....Just saying. π Another myth is that he's slow. He glides around the pitch like a Gazelle π..........π Go on then, name this one incisive pass that Afellay has played. He is good at keeping possession in his own half and always passes it sideways or backwards, and that is why Bayern is right. I am sick of asking for all the stats that point to what an attacking threat he is and getting no reply - that's because he simply does not threaten to create a goal in any way shape or form - go on dig up the stats of Affelay the super creator! Barca thought he was worth signing, 53 caps 7 goals for Holland..etc etc.. If it wasn't for two bad injuries he would be playing for a bigger club than Stoke. Keeping the fookin football isn't a crime by the way and helps take the pressure off the back four..If you don't think he's a quality player then that's your opinion....I've booked you in at 11.30.π
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 18, 2017 23:34:36 GMT
Go on then, name this one incisive pass that Afellay has played. He is good at keeping possession in his own half and always passes it sideways or backwards, and that is why Bayern is right. I am sick of asking for all the stats that point to what an attacking threat he is and getting no reply - that's because he simply does not threaten to create a goal in any way shape or form - go on dig up the stats of Affelay the super creator! Barca thought he was worth signing, 53 caps 7 goals for Holland..etc etc.. If it wasn't for two bad injuries he would be playing for a bigger club than Stoke. Keeping the fookin football isn't a crime by the way and helps take the pressure off the back four..If you don't think he's a quality player then that's your opinion....I've booked you in at 11.30.π
He didn't say that he thought he wasn't a quality player, he asked you to name the incisive pass(es) that he's made since he's been here ... you haven't answered his question.
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