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Post by adi on Feb 27, 2017 22:34:36 GMT
Correct. The hysteria over the 4 goal defeats masks the fact that in the main we've defended well over the course of the season..... Sorry, I don't agree ... The key problem is the defence. Erik was shocking for the first 8 games or so, Muniesa can't stay fit despite all the opportunities presented to him, we're only ever going to get half a season out of Johnson at best, Cameron is jack of all trades and master of none and then long-term injured. Ryan is in a bloody whirl and seems totally deflated and lacking in leadership. Phil B has played well but also been injured and Bruno thank goodness has done a good job, despite the blunders, under very difficult circumstances. Our defence has needed sorting out for 18 months and we have to get it sorted out before anything else this summer So you're saying Hughes priority will be to sign another striker? 😂😰😨🤢
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Feb 27, 2017 22:37:22 GMT
Grant Johnson Muniesa Martins Indi Pieters Cameron Afellay Allen Ramadan Arnie Berahino This is my team also. Whelan, Adam and Shawcross out. These three were terrible against Spurs and they are not the future for Stoke.
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Post by muglump on Feb 28, 2017 8:04:23 GMT
A good game to give imbula one last shot maybe? As they really need the points i can't see us winning sadly unless we inject some pace.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 28, 2017 9:06:17 GMT
No game for shrinking violets , the new guest game since Blackburn at hi,e season 1 lose and we are catapulted into the mix , with 4 defeats almost certain to follow , we will be Hanging on for grim death going into the Liverpool and Hull games .
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Post by akstoke93 on Feb 28, 2017 9:23:58 GMT
Have we actually sold out for this game? No tickets showing available online..
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Post by silverdollar on Feb 28, 2017 9:27:22 GMT
Like most people on this forum I was very disappointed with the performance on Sunday. The way we played was unacceptable. There are players featuring in the team who are making us a very predictable team and we are failing to threaten the opposition goal regularly enough. We have the opportunity next Saturday to reignite our season and for the team to start raising the supporter's morale again. Hughes needs to react to last weeks performances and send a clear message to his players that much more is expected from a player if they are to feature in the first team at Stoke. I couldn't really fault Grant on Sunday and I expect pretty soon that Butland will be pressing for a place.(This must be good news) I have never seen the back line look so ragged but unfortunately through poor management we have very limited choice when thinking about implementing change. This requires serious attention in the next window. I think it is perhaps too early to put in Souttar but I was bitterly disappointed with Shawcross and Pieters on Sunday. So I'd have to go with Johnson, Shawcross, Martins Indi, and Pieters but I would give them a very clear picture of the future if their performances do not improve. Our lack of pace and mobility against Spurs was painfully clear to see and it is something that Hughes needs to seriously address. We have become so slow and predictable. Playing at home I feel we only require one athletic holding midfielder with a balanced mobile midfield around and in front so I feel that we should have the following in front of our back four:- Cameron holding with Allen and Afellay either side of him helping to break up play and to link attacking play. As an attacking force we need to have players who are ready now to be affective. I am really pleased we have signed Berahino but he is not ready to start yet. He is hopefully going to be massive in the future. I believe that at the moment we should have Shaqiri, Arnautovic and Sobhi as our front three. I seriously am frustrated with Shaqiri and Arnautovic for that matter but they can also be majestic. I do believe they have the skill to open up defences. I think that Soutar, Campbell and NGoy need to be regulars on the bench. Walters, Whelan, Adam, Johnson and Crouch should not be near the first team next season. Hughes is supposed to be moving the team forward and in the last few games we have been very retrogressive. I am excited by the progress I have seen in the Academy and it needs to be made clear to all players that we have faith in our young talent!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 9:28:32 GMT
Have we actually sold out for this game? No tickets showing available online.. Yes there's a waiting list for returns. I'm currently on it....
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Post by akstoke93 on Feb 28, 2017 9:30:20 GMT
Have we actually sold out for this game? No tickets showing available online.. Yes there's a waiting list for returns. I'm currently on it.... Sure there will be plenty of them haha!!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 28, 2017 9:47:43 GMT
"Middlesbrough side which hasn't won in nine league games and hasn't scored in its last three."
Oh shit!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 9:50:42 GMT
" Middlesbrough side which hasn't won in nine league games and hasn't scored in its last three." Oh shit! Let's be fair we all had the same sinking feeling against Palace, woeful form and our bogey team over the years and we did a professional job on them. Have faith....
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 28, 2017 9:53:45 GMT
" Middlesbrough side which hasn't won in nine league games and hasn't scored in its last three." Oh shit! Let's be fair we all had the same sinking feeling against Palace, woeful form and our bogey team over the years and we did a professional job on them. Have faith.... Just my age and experience! Like when the commentator said on Sunday, Kane is on 99 goals, we all knew what would happen next. Of course considering our form against teams below us maybe we'll be ok and are no longer the charity team!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 10:04:33 GMT
" Middlesbrough side which hasn't won in nine league games and hasn't scored in its last three." Oh shit! Oh ffs
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Post by thegift on Feb 28, 2017 13:03:50 GMT
Grant Johnson Muniesa Martins Indi Pieters Cameron Afellay Allen Ramadan Arnie Berahino This is my team also. Whelan, Adam and Shawcross out. These three were terrible against Spurs and they are not the future for Stoke. i can't believe how poor shawcross is
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 13:13:06 GMT
This is my team also. Whelan, Adam and Shawcross out. These three were terrible against Spurs and they are not the future for Stoke. i can't believe how poor shawcross is Was he poor in our last home game against Benteke? Or against Lukaku and Ibrahimovic the other week? Let's not get carried away....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 14:33:20 GMT
Keep the faith guys. Have faith in Coates. He may be a loyal chairman, but he is nobody's fool. His outburst shows that he is looking forward to change in the summer.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 28, 2017 14:51:26 GMT
I would throw Berahino in and give him a start.
Let's see what he can do with 70 - 80 minutes of game time!
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 28, 2017 15:51:07 GMT
Grant
Johnson Shawcross Martins Indi Pieters
Cameron Allen
Ramadan Affelay Arnautovic
Berahino
Subs:
Given Bardsley Muniesa Adam Shaqiri Crouch Diouf
Calls for the captain's head are understandable, but, I feel, premature. We need to see if we can perform better without Adam and Whelan, on the other hand, and return Crouch back to his position as a useful plan B.
As for Shaq, I am almost at the stage of giving on him - he has so much talent, but he seems not to care about making the effort to put in a performance for us, despite getting very well paid to do so. If Bojan and Imbula are top of the list to go in the summer, he surely can't be too far behind!
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Post by thegift on Feb 28, 2017 15:57:52 GMT
Grant Johnson Shawcross Martins Indi Pieters Cameron Allen Ramadan Affelay Arnautovic Berahino Subs: Given Bardsley Muniesa Adam Shaqiri Crouch Diouf Calls for the captain's head are understandable, but, I feel, premature. We need to see if we can perform better without Adam and Whelan, on the other hand, and return Crouch back to his position as a useful plan B. As for Shaq, I am almost at the stage of giving on him - he has so much talent, but he seems not to care about making the effort to put in a performance for us, despite getting very well paid to do so. If Bojan and Imbula are top of the list to go in the summer, he surely can't be too far behind! Agree with most of that, but what does Muniesa have to do to actually play?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 16:37:45 GMT
Grant Johnson Shawcross Martins Indi Pieters Cameron Allen Ramadan Affelay Arnautovic Berahino Subs: Given Bardsley Muniesa Adam Shaqiri Crouch Diouf Calls for the captain's head are understandable, but, I feel, premature. We need to see if we can perform better without Adam and Whelan, on the other hand, and return Crouch back to his position as a useful plan B. As for Shaq, I am almost at the stage of giving on him - he has so much talent, but he seems not to care about making the effort to put in a performance for us, despite getting very well paid to do so. If Bojan and Imbula are top of the list to go in the summer, he surely can't be too far behind! Agree with most of that, but what does Muniesa have to do to actually play? Be patient and when he gets his chance not constantly get injured.....
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Post by pez75 on Feb 28, 2017 16:50:01 GMT
i can't believe how poor shawcross is Was he poor in our last home game against Benteke? Or against Lukaku and Ibrahimovic the other week? Let's not get carried away.... Tbh - yes. Benteke received little or no service as Palace were crap, but he still got the better of Ryan on a couple of occasions. Lukaku was poor that night. Zlatan lost Ryan a couple of times 1st half and set up a sitter for Mata and then tried again when he could well have scored... Probably being harsh, as good strikers will always get chances, but Ryan is not playing to his previous standards this season.
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Post by Davef on Feb 28, 2017 16:56:19 GMT
Was he poor in our last home game against Benteke? Or against Lukaku and Ibrahimovic the other week? Let's not get carried away.... Tbh - yes. Benteke received little or no service as Palace were crap, but he still got the better of Ryan on a couple of occasions. Lukaku was poor that night. Zlatan lost Ryan a couple of times 1st half and set up a sitter for Mata and then tried again when he could well have scored... Probably being harsh, as good strikers will always get chances, but Ryan is not playing to his previous standards this season. A £27M striker "got the better of Ryan on a couple of occasions", a £28M one was poor against him and one of the most feared strikers in the Premier League "lost him a couple of times". He has to up his game after last week's debacle, but yes, I think you're being very harsh.
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Post by pez75 on Feb 28, 2017 17:13:40 GMT
Tbh - yes. Benteke received little or no service as Palace were crap, but he still got the better of Ryan on a couple of occasions. Lukaku was poor that night. Zlatan lost Ryan a couple of times 1st half and set up a sitter for Mata and then tried again when he could well have scored... Probably being harsh, as good strikers will always get chances, but Ryan is not playing to his previous standards this season. A £27M striker "got the better of Ryan on a couple of occasions", a £28M one was poor against him and one of the most feared strikers in the Premier League "lost him a couple of times". He has to up his game after last week's debacle, but yes, I think you're being very harsh. Just playing devils advocate tbh. I am not suggesting we 'fuck him off' or even drop him, but Spurs was not his only poor performance recently and he has hardly looked like Garth Crooks team of the week stuff in his better games either. It is players like Ryan I expect to be dragging others onwards into battle but so often this season he has looked as thought he has no fight in him...
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Post by RAF on Feb 28, 2017 18:52:31 GMT
I swear to Christ if Berahaino doesn't start this game I'm going to shove my own car up Hughes's arse. Sideways!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:24:38 GMT
I swear to Christ if Berahaino doesn't start this game I'm going to shove my own car up Hughes's arse. Sideways! H Hopefully you drive a stretch limo
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 28, 2017 21:20:38 GMT
I swear to Christ if Berahaino doesn't start this game I'm going to shove my own car up Hughes's arse. Sideways! H Hopefully you drive a stretch limo Why as a matte of interest he has shown nothing at all to Merit it , suspect if he does and fails it's another exposure for the management team suspect bench is best
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Post by Davef on Feb 28, 2017 21:23:31 GMT
Hopefully you drive a stretch limo Why as a matte of interest he has shown nothing at all to Merit it , suspect if he does and fails it's another exposure for the management team suspect bench is best Says the bloke who wants Wlfried Bony in the team. What's he done exactly?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 28, 2017 21:31:37 GMT
Grant Johnson Shawcross Martins Indi Pieters Cameron Allen Ramadan Affelay Arnautovic Berahino Subs: Given Bardsley Muniesa Adam Shaqiri Crouch Diouf Calls for the captain's head are understandable, but, I feel, premature. We need to see if we can perform better without Adam and Whelan, on the other hand, and return Crouch back to his position as a useful plan B. As for Shaq, I am almost at the stage of giving on him - he has so much talent, but he seems not to care about making the effort to put in a performance for us, despite getting very well paid to do so. If Bojan and Imbula are top of the list to go in the summer, he surely can't be too far behind! Agree with most of that, but what does Muniesa have to do to actually play? Stay fit for more than 1 game?
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Post by lordb on Feb 28, 2017 21:37:43 GMT
Agree with most of that, but what does Muniesa have to do to actually play? Stay fit for more than 1 game? Sadly that's the truth. He can't stay fit. Cracking player but he isn't reliable.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 28, 2017 21:37:56 GMT
Hopefully you drive a stretch limo Why as a matte of interest he has shown nothing at all to Merit it , suspect if he does and fails it's another exposure for the management team suspect bench is best Look, Berra needs gametime so when will it come? This is an ideal opportunity to start him. While we always want to win we, despite the self promoting scare mongering moronic lunges you spout, aren't in a relegation struggle. We have an opponent we have a beatable opponent. We have to play him sometime. So Saturday is the day.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 28, 2017 21:38:19 GMT
Why as a matte of interest he has shown nothing at all to Merit it , suspect if he does and fails it's another exposure for the management team suspect bench is best Says the bloke who wants Wlfried Bony in the team. What's he done exactly? He actually was in the team when we recovered from our start , has good hold up play , and a stronger goals pedigree , he's also just played a tournament , rather than serve a drug ban , I think he had been harshly treated actually in terms of opportunity
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