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Post by bojancity on Feb 14, 2017 7:51:28 GMT
Grant
Johnson Shawcross Indi Pieters
Whelan Allen
Arnie Shaqiri Sobhi
Berahino
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 10:03:14 GMT
Swap Crouch for Diouf and I'd go with that. That was my original choice but it felt harsh on Crouch so I deleted him. You've been moaning about us twatting it long to Crouch and now you're saying you'd pick him
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 14, 2017 10:07:32 GMT
That was my original choice but it felt harsh on Crouch so I deleted him. You've been moaning about us twatting it long to Crouch and now you're saying you'd pick him He's playing well. We don't have the midfield to play it through so we have to twat it long, that's what I'm moaning about! And then when we do we have this pretence of trying to play football first and then it goes back to Shawcross and we twat it long. If you're going to twat long (and that's clearly the plan) do it early and have people running off him. We do neither!
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Post by mickmacc on Feb 14, 2017 10:14:45 GMT
Crouch has to start. 4 goals in 6 games and leads the line so well and more importantly holds the ball. Saido's time will come but he's a 'get in behind the defence" man and we need to change to accommodate him. He is also from all reports still unfit.Personally I'd love to see them play together eventually in a Crouch/Defoe type way.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 14, 2017 10:56:54 GMT
I'm going this one so that should be fun! Grant Bardo Shawcross Indi Pieters Whelan Allen Arnie Afellay Sobhi Crouch Given Muni Imbula Shaq N'Goy Berahino Diouf Afellay in the number 10 role? Doesn't he slow our play down far too much?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 14, 2017 11:10:20 GMT
I'm going this one so that should be fun! Grant Bardo Shawcross Indi Pieters Whelan Allen Arnie Afellay Sobhi Crouch Given Muni Imbula Shaq N'Goy Berahino Diouf Afellay in the number 10 role? Doesn't he slow our play down far too much? Who else is there? You can't go 4-4-2 vs Spurs away. Adam has been poor in the last few games. Allen isn't a #10. Imbula isn't either. Shaq is touch and go and is plaster over the wound anyway.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 14, 2017 11:14:48 GMT
Afellay in the number 10 role? Doesn't he slow our play down far too much? Who else is there? You can't go 4-4-2 vs Spurs away. Adam has been poor in the last few games. Allen isn't a #10. Imbula isn't either. Shaq is touch and go and is plaster over the wound anyway. I'd play Shaqiri, with either Diouf or Berahino in front of him. Who do you think the Spurs defence would prefer to play against, those two or Afellay and Crouch?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 14, 2017 11:24:40 GMT
Who else is there? You can't go 4-4-2 vs Spurs away. Adam has been poor in the last few games. Allen isn't a #10. Imbula isn't either. Shaq is touch and go and is plaster over the wound anyway. I'd play Shaqiri, with either Diouf or Berahino in front of him. Who do you think the Spurs defence would prefer to play against, those two or Afellay and Crouch? I think balls into the box will trouble these fookers but we don't do that. I just think it's harsh dropping Crouch atm, as much as I don't want him at the club!
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Post by alster on Feb 14, 2017 11:38:27 GMT
Afellay in the number 10 role? Doesn't he slow our play down far too much? Who else is there? You can't go 4-4-2 vs Spurs away. Adam has been poor in the last few games. Allen isn't a #10. Imbula isn't either. Shaq is touch and go and is plaster over the wound anyway. I don't think Shaq at 10 is a plaster over the wound at all I think its his best position and allows us to accommodate Sobhi into the team as well which is a big bonus. The key to getting the best out of Berahino or Diouf is someone who sees a pass early I think Shaq is the best option for that. I loved Affelay's cameo vs Palarse its great stuff to watch but I just don't think he sees what to do with the ball early enough.
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Post by alster on Feb 14, 2017 11:40:12 GMT
I'd play Shaqiri, with either Diouf or Berahino in front of him. Who do you think the Spurs defence would prefer to play against, those two or Afellay and Crouch? I think balls into the box will trouble these fookers but we don't do that. I just think it's harsh dropping Crouch atm, as much as I don't want him at the club! Come on He's got his hundredth now do you really want to watch more of that shit?
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Post by alster on Feb 14, 2017 11:42:45 GMT
Grant Johnson Shawcross Indi Pieters Whelan Allen Arnie Shaqiri Sobhi Berahino Thats nearly what I'd like to see I'd be tempted by Affelay for Whelan.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 14, 2017 11:50:31 GMT
Who else is there? You can't go 4-4-2 vs Spurs away. Adam has been poor in the last few games. Allen isn't a #10. Imbula isn't either. Shaq is touch and go and is plaster over the wound anyway. I don't think Shaq at 10 is a plaster over the wound at all I think its his best position and allows us to accommodate Sobhi into the team as well which is a big bonus. The key to getting the best out of Berahino or Diouf is someone who sees a pass early I think Shaq is the best option for that. I loved Affelay's cameo vs Palarse its great stuff to watch but I just don't think he sees what to do with the ball early enough. He's a winger. It's a plaster over the wound.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 14, 2017 12:02:11 GMT
I don't think Shaq at 10 is a plaster over the wound at all I think its his best position and allows us to accommodate Sobhi into the team as well which is a big bonus. The key to getting the best out of Berahino or Diouf is someone who sees a pass early I think Shaq is the best option for that. I loved Affelay's cameo vs Palarse its great stuff to watch but I just don't think he sees what to do with the ball early enough. He's a winger. It's a plaster over the wound.
There's absolutely no point in bringing Berahino here if we're not going to play with a proper number 10, who can see an early pass into the channels.
Now Bojan has gone, Shaqiri clearly has the potential to step into that role, heck most of his good balls into the box come from when he's naturally drifted into a central position anyway.
If we're going to get the best out of Berahino when he's ready to go, then the team need to be equally ready to play to his strengths, we can start working on that now by playing Diouf up front and getting used to playing that type of football.
Persisting with long aimless balls towards the head of Crouch in the meantime isn't going to be getting us remotely prepared.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Feb 14, 2017 12:29:17 GMT
I'd just roll the dice and go
Grant
Johnson/Bards Ryan BMI Pieters
Whelan Allen
Sobhi Affelay/Shaq Annie
Berahino/Diouf on after 65mins
I can't see Crouch as the answer I see him too isolated and the ball continually coming back at us. I think we need technical players who can hold and distribute the ball better no disrespect to Crouch he's done brilliant but these aren't Palace they will have more in the box offensively.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 14, 2017 12:32:56 GMT
He's a winger. It's a plaster over the wound.
There's absolutely no point in bringing Berahino here if we're not going to play with a proper number 10, who can see an early pass into the channels.
Now Bojan has gone, Shaqiri clearly has the potential to step into that role, heck most of his good balls into the box come from when he's naturally drifted into a central position anyway.
If we're going to get the best out of Berahino when he's ready to go, then the team need to be equally ready to play to his strengths, we can start working on that now by playing Diouf up front and getting used to playing that type of football.
Persisting with long aimless balls towards the head of Crouch in the meantime isn't going to be getting us remotely prepared.
I agree, I don't think the manager does! And if Shaq was fit now he'd be on the wing. You know I think it's a mess and I think Shaq at #10 is a part of that mess.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Feb 14, 2017 12:38:13 GMT
There's absolutely no point in bringing Berahino here if we're not going to play with a proper number 10, who can see an early pass into the channels.
Now Bojan has gone, Shaqiri clearly has the potential to step into that role, heck most of his good balls into the box come from when he's naturally drifted into a central position anyway.
If we're going to get the best out of Berahino when he's ready to go, then the team need to be equally ready to play to his strengths, we can start working on that now by playing Diouf up front and getting used to playing that type of football.
Persisting with long aimless balls towards the head of Crouch in the meantime isn't going to be getting us remotely prepared.
I agree, I don't think the manager does! And if Shaq was fit now he'd be on the wing. You know I think it's a mess and I think Shaq at #10 is a part of that mess. To be honest I think he has given up on this season as it looks like we will pick up enough points to finish around 8-11 in the table. I think he bought Berahino for next season and possibly loaned out Boyan to allow him to get back some confidence in a slightly less pacy and easier league. I could see Boyan behind Berahino at the start of next season. For now Hughes will simply shoe in anyone who can do a job from the current squad and hope the likes of Joe Allen and Crouch can keep chipping in with goals. Well you'd think this was the scenario but with Hughes who knows
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Post by alster on Feb 14, 2017 12:44:11 GMT
He's a winger. It's a plaster over the wound.
There's absolutely no point in bringing Berahino here if we're not going to play with a proper number 10, who can see an early pass into the channels.
Now Bojan has gone, Shaqiri clearly has the potential to step into that role, heck most of his good balls into the box come from when he's naturally drifted into a central position anyway.
If we're going to get the best out of Berahino when he's ready to go, then the team need to be equally ready to play to his strengths, we can start working on that now by playing Diouf up front and getting used to playing that type of football.
Persisting with long aimless balls towards the head of Crouch in the meantime isn't going to be getting us remotely prepared.
Thats exactly how I see it despite our comfortable position I am completely bemused as to what the point is in how we're playing.
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 14, 2017 14:31:51 GMT
He's a winger. It's a plaster over the wound.
There's absolutely no point in bringing Berahino here if we're not going to play with a proper number 10, who can see an early pass into the channels.
Now Bojan has gone, Shaqiri clearly has the potential to step into that role, heck most of his good balls into the box come from when he's naturally drifted into a central position anyway.
If we're going to get the best out of Berahino when he's ready to go, then the team need to be equally ready to play to his strengths, we can start working on that now by playing Diouf up front and getting used to playing that type of football.
Persisting with long aimless balls towards the head of Crouch in the meantime isn't going to be getting us remotely prepared.
Bang on the money, Spence. There is surely no way we are going to get dragged into trouble, so the rest of this campaign should be used to prepare for the next. Next season we will be looking to start Saido, not two metre Peter, up front, so after a further two weeks of work and integration into the squad, he should start. We need to see, if Bojan is now persona non grata, who can fill the role behind him from the present squad (or if we need to go shopping for that player in the summer). Afellay and Shaq are those who should be tried, I feel, whilst Joe settles into the box to box role which he needs to make his own. Saido will need players around him, from out wide and centrally, who can pick a pass down the channels or whipped into his feet, not who can play big diagonals into his head (a la Adam to Crouch). We must develop a more coherent pattern to our play - too often these days we seem to be making it up as it goes along.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 14, 2017 16:11:15 GMT
S'pose it depends on whether Rose and Walker are starting for Spuds as to whether Poch will go three at the back.. Seems like an age away so I'll change me mind several times before then no doubt. Until then it's somewhere in between Grant Shawcross Bruno Pieters Diouf Allen Imbula Muniesa Ramadan Berahino Arnautovic and Grant Bardsley Shawcross Bruno Pieters Whelan Adam Shaqiri Allen Arnautovic Crouch
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Post by bristolpotter123 on Feb 14, 2017 16:18:56 GMT
After watching Saturday and being sceptical about Ramadan I feel he showed enough to be worth a prolonged run in the side , he's not a traditional winger but to be honest I cant name a top team who plays with anyone like that now so I would , depending on fitness go with.
GRANT
JOHNSON INDI SHAWCROSS PIETERS
WHELAN ALLEN
RAMADAN SHAQIRI ARNIE
BERAHINO
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 14, 2017 16:29:42 GMT
Who else is there? You can't go 4-4-2 vs Spurs away. Adam has been poor in the last few games. Allen isn't a #10. Imbula isn't either. Shaq is touch and go and is plaster over the wound anyway. I don't think Shaq at 10 is a plaster over the wound at all I think its his best position and allows us to accommodate Sobhi into the team as well which is a big bonus. The key to getting the best out of Berahino or Diouf is someone who sees a pass early I think Shaq is the best option for that. I loved Affelay's cameo vs Palarse its great stuff to watch but I just don't think he sees what to do with the ball early enough. Completely agree. Give Shaq a free role with no defensive responsibilities. Let's see how good he really is.
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Post by thehoof on Feb 14, 2017 18:50:30 GMT
I'm going this one so that should be fun! Grant Bardo Shawcross Indi Pieters Whelan Allen Arnie Afellay Sobhi Crouch Given Muni Imbula Shaq N'Goy Berahino Diouf Afellay in the number 10 role? Doesn't he slow our play down far too much? I am not a massive fan of Affelay because he does slow down play and if he plays in tandem with Whelan you won't see the ball go forward. However against Palace in his 15 minutes, he played the no. 10 role and looked to cause problems in their half. So if he is to play, give him a go in the no.10 role.
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Post by redstriper on Feb 15, 2017 9:07:42 GMT
Rose and walker are the best pair of wingbacks in the country so this is a big test.
I want to see what sobhi an arni can do to help out defensively or better stil, force them onto the back foot - Eric has been exposed against them in the past matches,
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Post by Onneravineet on Feb 15, 2017 9:20:52 GMT
-------------Eddie------------ Johnson--Ryan--Indi--Erik ------Whelan----Allen------ --------------Ibby-------------- Arnie--------------------Sobhi ---------Saido/Mame---------
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 20:28:42 GMT
Gent beat them tonight. Didn't see that coming!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2017 20:59:45 GMT
There's absolutely no point in bringing Berahino here if we're not going to play with a proper number 10, who can see an early pass into the channels.
Now Bojan has gone, Shaqiri clearly has the potential to step into that role, heck most of his good balls into the box come from when he's naturally drifted into a central position anyway.
If we're going to get the best out of Berahino when he's ready to go, then the team need to be equally ready to play to his strengths, we can start working on that now by playing Diouf up front and getting used to playing that type of football.
Persisting with long aimless balls towards the head of Crouch in the meantime isn't going to be getting us remotely prepared.
Bang on the money, Spence. There is surely no way we are going to get dragged into trouble, so the rest of this campaign should be used to prepare for the next. Next season we will be looking to start Saido, not two metre Peter, up front, so after a further two weeks of work and integration into the squad, he should start. We need to see, if Bojan is now persona non grata, who can fill the role behind him from the present squad (or if we need to go shopping for that player in the summer). Afellay and Shaq are those who should be tried, I feel, whilst Joe settles into the box to box role which he needs to make his own. Saido will need players around him, from out wide and centrally, who can pick a pass down the channels or whipped into his feet, not who can play big diagonals into his head (a la Adam to Crouch). We must develop a more coherent pattern to our play - too often these days we seem to be making it up as it goes along. We've needed that for 18 months......
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 16, 2017 22:07:25 GMT
Bang on the money, Spence. There is surely no way we are going to get dragged into trouble, so the rest of this campaign should be used to prepare for the next. Next season we will be looking to start Saido, not two metre Peter, up front, so after a further two weeks of work and integration into the squad, he should start. We need to see, if Bojan is now persona non grata, who can fill the role behind him from the present squad (or if we need to go shopping for that player in the summer). Afellay and Shaq are those who should be tried, I feel, whilst Joe settles into the box to box role which he needs to make his own. Saido will need players around him, from out wide and centrally, who can pick a pass down the channels or whipped into his feet, not who can play big diagonals into his head (a la Adam to Crouch). We must develop a more coherent pattern to our play - too often these days we seem to be making it up as it goes along. We've needed that for 18 months...... Sorry lads but we need another eight points before assume we don't be Sucked in which is why boro is such a big game as it potentially gets us us a big g step nearer
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 22:09:01 GMT
Ay up the merchant of doom has logged on....
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Post by Jimm on Feb 16, 2017 22:09:16 GMT
Grant
Bardsley Shawcross Martins Indi Pieters
Whelan Cameron Afelley
Arnautovic Diouf Shaqiri
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 16, 2017 22:12:56 GMT
We're safe as houses.
We have fuck all to play for.
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