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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 15, 2017 16:13:45 GMT
Whatever. You can spin it whichever way you want but for you to dismiss the FACT that your FBI were refused access to Hilary's servers because the DNC had employed a 3rd party security company I think is bizarre. Comey leaked memo's to the press via a law professor friend. Memo's that he wrote himself. His story is all what he thought and what he think Donald means by "loyalty". When Trump says "hopes" Comey said he took that as an order. That's not proof that's personal opinion. Comey was sacked because the Clinton email investigation was a clusterfuck that ended up with the FBI not having the physical servers, Hillary's lawyers forensically cleansing her emails and BILL Clinton's 'advisers' taking hammers to Hillary's hard drives. You're obviously happy with all that because you think Trump is a scumbag. Again, I don't agree with your logic. Last couple of videos..... Who Is Daniel Richman, the Columbia Professor Who Leaked Comey’s Trump Memo? - NBC Newshow do you feel about Trump supporting the repeal of net neutrality? Not disclosing his financial papers? Not letting the public know who he meets in the Oval Office? What's your logic in defending all that? That's all Hillary and the Dark State's fault.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 15, 2017 19:17:12 GMT
Whatever. You can spin it whichever way you want but for you to dismiss the FACT that your FBI were refused access to Hilary's servers because the DNC had employed a 3rd party security company I think is bizarre. Comey leaked memo's to the press via a law professor friend. Memo's that he wrote himself. His story is all what he thought and what he think Donald means by "loyalty". When Trump says "hopes" Comey said he took that as an order. That's not proof that's personal opinion. Comey was sacked because the Clinton email investigation was a clusterfuck that ended up with the FBI not having the physical servers, Hillary's lawyers forensically cleansing her emails and BILL Clinton's 'advisers' taking hammers to Hillary's hard drives. You're obviously happy with all that because you think Trump is a scumbag. Again, I don't agree with your logic. Last couple of videos..... Who Is Daniel Richman, the Columbia Professor Who Leaked Comey’s Trump Memo? - NBC Newshow do you feel about Trump supporting the repeal of net neutrality? Not disclosing his financial papers? Not letting the public know who he meets in the Oval Office? What's your logic in defending all that? Not really up on the net neutrality thing but it's been it's gone back and forth for years hasn't it? The never ending battle over net neutrality is far from over. Here’s what’s coming next. - The Washington Post Who "controls" the internet is an interesting debate. Is it the service providers or the content publishers who should do the gate keeping? What is Trumps reason for supporting the repeal? Your financial papers or tax returns? Probably because he doesn't have to as they're private. He's a businessman and will be again after he steps down in 2024 Maybe, perhaps he should release his returns for every year he's President but apart from that I don't actually give a shit. Same as I don't give a shit that Bernie Sanders only released a 2014 return as well ..... Tax History - Presidents and Candidates I wouldn't tell the public of every meeting I had if I was a Head of State either. If there's protocol that says he should disclose visitors to the Oval Office then he should disclose but I'm sure that EVERY Leader on the planet doesn't make public every meeting. Are you talking about that Russian dude? What do you think of J Edgar Hoover and his Deep State activities? All well documented. "... we want no Gestapo or secret police. The FBI is tending in that direction. They are dabbling in sex-life scandals and plain blackmail. J. Edgar Hoover would give his right eye to take over, and all congressmen and senators are afraid of him." — Harry S. Truman
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 15, 2017 20:59:16 GMT
how do you feel about Trump supporting the repeal of net neutrality? Not disclosing his financial papers? Not letting the public know who he meets in the Oval Office? What's your logic in defending all that? Not really up on the net neutrality thing but it's been it's gone back and forth for years hasn't it? The never ending battle over net neutrality is far from over. Here’s what’s coming next. - The Washington Post Who "controls" the internet is an interesting debate. Is it the service providers or the content publishers who should do the gate keeping? What is Trumps reason for supporting the repeal? Your financial papers or tax returns? Probably because he doesn't have to as they're private. He's a businessman and will be again after he steps down in 2024 Maybe, perhaps he should release his returns for every year he's President but apart from that I don't actually give a shit. Same as I don't give a shit that Bernie Sanders only released a 2014 return as well ..... Tax History - Presidents and Candidates I wouldn't tell the public of every meeting I had if I was a Head of State either. If there's protocol that says he should disclose visitors to the Oval Office then he should disclose but I'm sure that EVERY Leader on the planet doesn't make public every meeting. Are you talking about that Russian dude? What do you think of J Edgar Hoover and his Deep State activities? All well documented. "... we want no Gestapo or secret police. The FBI is tending in that direction. They are dabbling in sex-life scandals and plain blackmail. J. Edgar Hoover would give his right eye to take over, and all congressmen and senators are afraid of him." — Harry S. Truman The FBI has done lots of shady shit, I don't doubt that because there are records and actual evidence when it comes to things like COINTELPRO, watergate, and filegate; the speculative drivel you cite in fabricating this Deep State that is working against Trump, has no basis in reality. If I were going on speculation I'd say that Trump is now in charge of the Deep State and he is making moves to stifle free press by claiming any negative press is fake, allowing a few companies to take private control of the internet (NN), not releasing his tax returns (despite members of his team getting busted for money laundering, money that came from Russia) he fired the director of the FBI the same day he met with Russian officials, something he tried to hide from the press, and he still will not allow people to know who he meets with clandestinely. It's easy to speculate, but it doesn't mean shit unless you have proof. Which is exactly why Trump should still be investigated, because despite his calling it a scam, or trying to change the subject to Clinton, multiple members of his team were caught lying. This is different from /r/T_D, Foxnews and Breitbart claiming Comey maybe got the timeline wrong, or that someone in the FBI didn't like Trump. This is the issue with your whole belief in a Deep State and more importantly that Trump is actively fighting corruption in government; he is the Deep State, he's actively trying to get people to stop looking into his business dealings, the people he meets with, and the kickbacks he's handing out. The sad thing is a lot of people buy the speculative nonsense, and then don't challenge him on stuff like NN, the tax plan, and trying to take their healthcare because they think he's some kind of superhero who's racist like them, and then believe everything he tweets despite his record of lying over and over. NN is the prime example for me, you've seen what they are proposing, how could it possibly be good for the free exchange of information that the Internet currently provides? Why defend a terrible idea simply because Trump thinks it's an ok one? Sure, the fight for neutrality is far from over, but why on earth would Trump, enemy of the Deep state, want to allow ISP's to have full control over what US citizens can and cannot access? At the very least he is trying to fleece the American public, which is a shame.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 16, 2017 23:20:32 GMT
Trump is lowering the barriers for pharmaceutical companies. Which is obviously great news for US people, as they will be able to get easier access to less evidenced based drugs. link
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 20, 2017 9:55:57 GMT
Dementia? Teeth falling out? Whatsh going on wish the Donald here? Maybe he's caught Parkinson's off Hillary!
God bless the United Shaysh!
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 20, 2017 12:39:18 GMT
Dementia? Teeth falling out? Whatsh going on wish the Donald here? Maybe he's caught Parkinson's off Hillary! God bless the United Shaysh! Sounds like he's pissed again, he should get a cup of his favourite covfefe.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 21, 2017 17:46:21 GMT
Talking about being pissed up.
UN declares Trump's Jerusalem embassy message as "null and void".
HO HO HO!!!
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 21, 2017 19:30:01 GMT
Talking about being pissed up. UN declares Trump's Jerusalem embassy message as "null and void". HO HO HO!!! Yes that went well! Trumps coalition of the willing is; Israel (obviously) Guatemala Honduras Marshall Islands Micronesia Nauru Palau (is this where the rice come from?) Togo The Dark State is far more powerful than than I thought.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 21, 2017 19:32:43 GMT
Talking about being pissed up. UN declares Trump's Jerusalem embassy message as "null and void". HO HO HO!!! Yes that went well! Trumps coalition of the willing is; Israel (obviously) Guatemala Honduras Marshall Islands Micronesia Nauru Palau (is this where the rice come from?) Togo The Dark State is far more powerful than than I thought. The UN have no authority.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 21, 2017 19:43:11 GMT
Yes that went well! Trumps coalition of the willing is; Israel (obviously) Guatemala Honduras Marshall Islands Micronesia Nauru Palau (is this where the rice come from?) Togo The Dark State is far more powerful than than I thought. The UN have no authority. So?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 21, 2017 21:59:19 GMT
The UN have no authority. So? So?? So what are you twitering on about?
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 21, 2017 22:19:41 GMT
So?? So what are you twitering on about? Well if I have to explain myself... I said "So?" in response to your comment about the UN vote being non binding, I said "So?" because you you inferred that the vote did not matter and by extension you inferred (or at least I took it that way) that I thought the vote would stop Trump from doing something he wanted to do. I also took your response to be something on the lines of when a child want to join a game of football, but is told to go away. He then responds with, I did not want to play anyway... Going back to the main point, Trump just lost a vote in the UN that did not really matter, and one that did not matter so much that he threatened to cut US aid to countries that did not vote his way. That's how much the vote did not matter to Trump.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 21, 2017 22:25:45 GMT
So?? So what are you twitering on about? Well if I have to explain myself... I said "So?" in response to your comment about the UN vote being non binding, I said "So?" because you you inferred that the vote did not matter and by extension you inferred (or at least I took it that way) that I thought the vote would stop Trump from doing something he wanted to do. I also took your response to be something on the lines of when a child want to join a game of football, but is told to go away. He then responds with, I did not want to play anyway... Going back to the main point, Trump just lost a vote in the UN that did not really matter, and one that did not matter so much that he threatened to cut US aid to countries that did not vote his way. That's how much the vote did not matter to Trump. So you agree with me that the UN has no authority and this colossal waste of time and huge amounts of cash was just showboating for the Libtards. Excellent. I think we're coming together over this festive time.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 21, 2017 22:29:48 GMT
Well if I have to explain myself... I said "So?" in response to your comment about the UN vote being non binding, I said "So?" because you you inferred that the vote did not matter and by extension you inferred (or at least I took it that way) that I thought the vote would stop Trump from doing something he wanted to do. I also took your response to be something on the lines of when a child want to join a game of football, but is told to go away. He then responds with, I did not want to play anyway... Going back to the main point, Trump just lost a vote in the UN that did not really matter, and one that did not matter so much that he threatened to cut US aid to countries that did not vote his way. That's how much the vote did not matter to Trump. So you agree with me that the UN has no authority and this colossal waste of time and huge amounts of cash was just showboating for the Libtards. Excellent. I think we're coming together over this festive time. Up to a point, yes!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 21, 2017 22:30:47 GMT
So?? So what are you twitering on about? Well if I have to explain myself... I said "So?" in response to your comment about the UN vote being non binding, I said "So?" because you you inferred that the vote did not matter and by extension you inferred (or at least I took it that way) that I thought the vote would stop Trump from doing something he wanted to do. I also took your response to be something on the lines of when a child want to join a game of football, but is told to go away. He then responds with, I did not want to play anyway... Going back to the main point, Trump just lost a vote in the UN that did not really matter, and one that did not matter so much that he threatened to cut US aid to countries that did not vote his way. That's how much the vote did not matter to Trump. He didn't "lose" a vote. His actions weren't dependent on who voted or not. The UN have no authority to stop the US moving their embassy to Jerusalem.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 21, 2017 22:38:19 GMT
Talking about being pissed up. UN declares Trump's Jerusalem embassy message as "null and void". HO HO HO!!! Yes that went well! Trumps coalition of the willing is; Israel (obviously) Guatemala Honduras Marshall Islands Micronesia Nauru Palau (is this where the rice come from?) Togo The Dark State is far more powerful than than I thought. Countries that abstained; Antigua-Barbuda, Argentina, Australia Bahamas, Benin, Bhutan, Bosnia-Herzegovina Cameroon, Canada, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic Dominican Republic Equatorial Guinea Fiji Haiti, Hungary Jamaica Kiribati Latvia, Lesotho Malawi, Mexico Panama, Paraguay, Philippines, Poland Romania, Rwanda Solomon Islands, South Sudan Trinidad-Tobago, Tuvalu Uganda
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 21, 2017 22:42:56 GMT
Yes that went well! Trumps coalition of the willing is; Israel (obviously) Guatemala Honduras Marshall Islands Micronesia Nauru Palau (is this where the rice come from?) Togo The Dark State is far more powerful than than I thought. The UN have no authority. So why did the US get all hot under the collar and start issuing threats.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 21, 2017 23:01:24 GMT
The UN have no authority. So why did the US get all hot under the collar and start issuing threats. That's called "International Diplomacy" How many would have abstained or voted for or voted against if Ambassador Haley hadn't dropped that?
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 22, 2017 1:54:34 GMT
So why did the US get all hot under the collar and start issuing threats. That's called "International Diplomacy" How many would have abstained or voted for or voted against if Ambassador Haley hadn't dropped that? But you suggested that the vote is meaningless anyway so why bother?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 22, 2017 8:48:45 GMT
That's called "International Diplomacy" How many would have abstained or voted for or voted against if Ambassador Haley hadn't dropped that? But you suggested that the vote is meaningless anyway so why bother? Good question. You'll have to ask the UN why they held a meaningless vote that allowed them to virtue signal to the world's media and finger point at the USA who in turn kinda said we don't care but at least we know who are friends are. Sorry, are you surprised that Trumps administration responded to this vote? You expected them to not make a public statement? Really?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 22, 2017 10:22:49 GMT
Haley 2024....
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 22, 2017 10:31:06 GMT
You've got to give it to the Don with these tax cuts. Excellent move.
Nine major companies have already used the saved cash to voluntarily raise workers' wages to the liberals' desired $15/hour. The best part about it is that under the workers' new tax threshold, they'll save over 32 hours' worth of earnings more than if the federally mandated minimum wage had increased with the tax threshold the same.
Bernie's frothing at the mouth and liberals still spout off this "the government are stealing" lie. Bullshit. How is letting you keep your own property stealing?
Watch the Don's popularity points shoot up just like they did for Reagan when he did the same thing in the 80s.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 22, 2017 11:04:23 GMT
Haley 2024.... I've never been comfortable with the notion of someone demanding preferential treatment because they pay more, whether that be at Alton Towers or the UN. That does not make me a leftie BTW, I'm just a cynic with a sense of fair play.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 22, 2017 13:20:34 GMT
Haley 2024.... I've never been comfortable with the notion of someone demanding preferential treatment because they pay more, whether that be at Alton Towers or the UN. That does not make me a leftie BTW, I'm just a cynic with a sense of fair play. She's not demanding preferential treatment.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 22, 2017 13:23:48 GMT
I've never been comfortable with the notion of someone demanding preferential treatment because they pay more, whether that be at Alton Towers or the UN. That does not make me a leftie BTW, I'm just a cynic with a sense of fair play. She's not demanding preferential treatment. We will have to agree to differ on that one.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 22, 2017 17:21:38 GMT
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Post by Northy on Dec 22, 2017 18:47:47 GMT
I've never been comfortable with the notion of someone demanding preferential treatment because they pay more, whether that be at Alton Towers or the UN. That does not make me a leftie BTW, I'm just a cynic with a sense of fair play. She's not demanding preferential treatment. A pity we didn't say similar to the EU
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 22, 2017 20:32:39 GMT
You've got to give it to the Don with these tax cuts. Excellent move. Nine major companies have already used the saved cash to voluntarily raise workers' wages to the liberals' desired $15/hour. The best part about it is that under the workers' new tax threshold, they'll save over 32 hours' worth of earnings more than if the federally mandated minimum wage had increased with the tax threshold the same. Bernie's frothing at the mouth and liberals still spout off this "the government are stealing" lie. Bullshit. How is letting you keep your own property stealing? Watch the Don's popularity points shoot up just like they did for Reagan when he did the same thing in the 80s. The Republicans are clever - give a few bucks to the poor in time for the next election but take them away after, when it's too late to vote them out and their extremists have full control of election commissions and the courts. By the end of it, the bottom 80 % will be losing money, but the super rich get a nice, juicy, permanent bonus and 13 million poor people are going to lose health insurance. The Republicans had a great opportunity to help everybody and they put a few good things in the bill, but it's basically a huge giveaway to the very richest with a few pennies tossed to the plebs. Compare: AT&T has announced a $0.2 billion bonus for its workers, Oracle has announced a $15 billion buyback for shareholders. This is how it's going to be from now on: a massive gushing orgasm for the super rich, and half a half-arsed handjob followed by a solid, unlubed anal reaming for everyone else.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 22, 2017 20:34:45 GMT
You've got to give it to the Don with these tax cuts. Excellent move. Nine major companies have already used the saved cash to voluntarily raise workers' wages to the liberals' desired $15/hour. The best part about it is that under the workers' new tax threshold, they'll save over 32 hours' worth of earnings more than if the federally mandated minimum wage had increased with the tax threshold the same. Bernie's frothing at the mouth and liberals still spout off this "the government are stealing" lie. Bullshit. How is letting you keep your own property stealing? Watch the Don's popularity points shoot up just like they did for Reagan when he did the same thing in the 80s. The Republicans are clever - give a few bucks to the poor in time for the next election but take them away after, when it's too late to vote them out and their extremists have full control of election commissions and the courts. By the end of it, the bottom 80 % will be losing money, but the super rich get a nice, juicy, permanent bonus and 13 million poor people are going to lose health insurance. The Republicans had a great opportunity to help everybody and they put a few good things in the bill, but it's basically a huge giveaway to the very richest with a few pennies tossed to the plebs. Compare: AT&T has announced a $0.2 billion bonus for its workers, Oracle has announced a $15 billion buyback for shareholders. This is how it's going to be from now on: a massive gushing orgasm for the super rich, and half a sloppy handjob followed by a solid anal reaming for everyone else. The alternative issss..... To keep it exactly how it was before?
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 22, 2017 20:46:04 GMT
The extreme Republican tax plan is similar to what they tried in Kansas before. That gave lots of money to the rich and didn't grow the economy. Then the lack of money was used as an excuse to cut funding to schools, hospitals, prisons and roads. The Republicans have already basically said this is the plan: borrow more than a trillion, give most of it to the rich and then say they need to cut healthcare to poor people a few years down the road in order to stop the debt.
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