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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 9:32:00 GMT
Here's a report by CNN, not really big fans of Trump, I'm sure you'll agree. FBI agent dismissed from Mueller probe changed Comey's description of Clinton to 'extremely careless' - CNN Politics
The article discloses that the FBI "in a team effort" changed Director Comey's description of Hillary and the handling of her emails, from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless" via the hand of agent Peter Strzok. Who is instructing these FBI agents to change the text of their Director? Why did Director Comey then stand in front of the TV cameras and use the changed text and not his own words? He obviously went along with the changes. "grossly negligent" comes with Federal charges so I think the conclusions from the Director of the FBI were discussed, the implications and outcome of Federal charges against Clinton were discussed and the FBI made a conscious decision to protect Trumps opponent. You obviously think otherwise but I don't share you logic.
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Post by Northy on Dec 14, 2017 9:42:44 GMT
Trump's policies are massively unpopular. A proper good left-wing democratic candidate wins in 2020. A Hillary type candidate doesn't. feel the Bern again ?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 11:50:41 GMT
Here's a report by CNN, not really big fans of Trump, I'm sure you'll agree. FBI agent dismissed from Mueller probe changed Comey's description of Clinton to 'extremely careless' - CNN Politics
The article discloses that the FBI "in a team effort" changed Director Comey's description of Hillary and the handling of her emails, from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless" via the hand of agent Peter Strzok. Who is instructing these FBI agents to change the text of their Director? Why did Director Comey then stand in front of the TV cameras and use the changed text and not his own words? He obviously went along with the changes. "grossly negligent" comes with Federal charges so I think the conclusions from the Director of the FBI were discussed, the implications and outcome of Federal charges against Clinton were discussed and the FBI made a conscious decision to protect Trumps opponent. You obviously think otherwise but I don't share you logic. so then when Comey announced the reopening of the investigation into Clinton's emails two weeks before the election was he trying to help Trump? Is Donald a part of the *gulp* Deep State?! It's ridiculous. CNN is fake news unless it's good news for Donnie. The FBI is controlled by the Deep State, unless they do something he likes. It's fucking double-think, you can't have it be both. If there is such a thing as the Deep State working against Trump he wouldn't be in office.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 13:58:40 GMT
Here's a report by CNN, not really big fans of Trump, I'm sure you'll agree. FBI agent dismissed from Mueller probe changed Comey's description of Clinton to 'extremely careless' - CNN Politics
The article discloses that the FBI "in a team effort" changed Director Comey's description of Hillary and the handling of her emails, from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless" via the hand of agent Peter Strzok. Who is instructing these FBI agents to change the text of their Director? Why did Director Comey then stand in front of the TV cameras and use the changed text and not his own words? He obviously went along with the changes. "grossly negligent" comes with Federal charges so I think the conclusions from the Director of the FBI were discussed, the implications and outcome of Federal charges against Clinton were discussed and the FBI made a conscious decision to protect Trumps opponent. You obviously think otherwise but I don't share you logic. so then when Comey announced the reopening of the investigation into Clinton's emails two weeks before the election was he trying to help Trump? Is Donald a part of the *gulp* Deep State?! It's ridiculous. CNN is fake news unless it's good news for Donnie. The FBI is controlled by the Deep State, unless they do something he likes. It's fucking double-think, you can't have it be both. If there is such a thing as the Deep State working against Trump he wouldn't be in office. Or, Comey inexplicably (which it was) opens the Clinton email saga after we hear Clinton's advisers took hammers to hard drives and her credibility took a hit. Comey's opening and closing the case again was supposed to convince the doubting voters. That's not too much of a stretch is it? I'm not having it both ways. CNN have admitted they put out bullshit but only after they were busted. The FBI have never done anything for Trump. Someone who ran on a pledge to "drain the swamp" is then hounded and criticised by the swamp after he wins. I don't think that's a coincidence Following on from my previous post here are messages between FBI agents, recently released where they obviously don't personally like Trump, but more seriously they have discussed an event as an "insurance policy" in case he gets elected. "that there's no way he gets elected -- but I'm afraid we can't take that risk" What does that mean?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 14:53:50 GMT
so then when Comey announced the reopening of the investigation into Clinton's emails two weeks before the election was he trying to help Trump? Is Donald a part of the *gulp* Deep State?! It's ridiculous. CNN is fake news unless it's good news for Donnie. The FBI is controlled by the Deep State, unless they do something he likes. It's fucking double-think, you can't have it be both. If there is such a thing as the Deep State working against Trump he wouldn't be in office. Or, Comey inexplicably (which it was) opens the Clinton email saga after we hear Clinton's advisers took hammers to hard drives and her credibility took a hit. Comey's opening and closing the case again was supposed to convince the doubting voters. That's not too much of a stretch is it? I'm not having it both ways. CNN have admitted they put out bullshit but only after they were busted. The FBI have never done anything for Trump. Someone who ran on a pledge to "drain the swamp" is then hounded and criticised by the swamp after he wins. I don't think that's a coincidence Following on from my previous post here are messages between FBI agents, recently released where they obviously don't personally like Trump, but more seriously they have discussed an event as an "insurance policy" in case he gets elected. "that there's no way he gets elected -- but I'm afraid we can't take that risk" What does that mean? Not doubting that there are personal biases among people working in different government institutions, Comey was a Republican for example and never hid that fact. Strzok clearly didn't like Trump, like the majority of Americans and said so in text messages. What I don't buy is that a major conspiracy has gone down with regards to an investigation, which Stzrok was removed from. The "insurance policy" could be a lot of things, but it was sent about a month after the whole Russia investigation began, so it's not like that kicked the whole thing off. The Trump camp was already doing some shady shit, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was basically saying the dirt we have on him will be necessary in the event he gets elected.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 14, 2017 15:54:16 GMT
Here's a report by CNN, not really big fans of Trump, I'm sure you'll agree. FBI agent dismissed from Mueller probe changed Comey's description of Clinton to 'extremely careless' - CNN Politics
The article discloses that the FBI "in a team effort" changed Director Comey's description of Hillary and the handling of her emails, from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless" via the hand of agent Peter Strzok. Who is instructing these FBI agents to change the text of their Director? Why did Director Comey then stand in front of the TV cameras and use the changed text and not his own words? He obviously went along with the changes. "grossly negligent" comes with Federal charges so I think the conclusions from the Director of the FBI were discussed, the implications and outcome of Federal charges against Clinton were discussed and the FBI made a conscious decision to protect Trumps opponent. You obviously think otherwise but I don't share you logic. so then when Comey announced the reopening of the investigation into Clinton's emails two weeks before the election was he trying to help Trump? Is Donald a part of the *gulp* Deep State?! It's ridiculous. CNN is fake news unless it's good news for Donnie. The FBI is controlled by the Deep State, unless they do something he likes. It's fucking double-think, you can't have it be both. If there is such a thing as the Deep State working against Trump he wouldn't be in office. Lol, of course you can't! Conspiracies are so easy to perpetuate because they're not based on anything concrete so are a constantly moving feast and very attractive to certain 'thinkers'. They can be anything to anyone at anytime. Easy to convince yourself if you're that way inclined.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 14, 2017 15:56:43 GMT
so then when Comey announced the reopening of the investigation into Clinton's emails two weeks before the election was he trying to help Trump? Is Donald a part of the *gulp* Deep State?! It's ridiculous. CNN is fake news unless it's good news for Donnie. The FBI is controlled by the Deep State, unless they do something he likes. It's fucking double-think, you can't have it be both. If there is such a thing as the Deep State working against Trump he wouldn't be in office. Or, Comey inexplicably (which it was) opens the Clinton email saga after we hear Clinton's advisers took hammers to hard drives and her credibility took a hit. Comey's opening and closing the case again was supposed to convince the doubting voters. That's not too much of a stretch is it? I'm not having it both ways. CNN have admitted they put out bullshit but only after they were busted. The FBI have never done anything for Trump. Someone who ran on a pledge to "drain the swamp" is then hounded and criticised by the swamp after he wins. I don't think that's a coincidence Following on from my previous post here are messages between FBI agents, recently released where they obviously don't personally like Trump, but more seriously they have discussed an event as an "insurance policy" in case he gets elected. "that there's no way he gets elected -- but I'm afraid we can't take that risk" What does that mean? Maybe the Deep State did put out all that stuff about sexual harrassment, tax dodging, etc to discredit Trump and they just didn't reckon on the absolute fucking stupidity of the American people?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 16:24:25 GMT
Or, Comey inexplicably (which it was) opens the Clinton email saga after we hear Clinton's advisers took hammers to hard drives and her credibility took a hit. Comey's opening and closing the case again was supposed to convince the doubting voters. That's not too much of a stretch is it? I'm not having it both ways. CNN have admitted they put out bullshit but only after they were busted. The FBI have never done anything for Trump. Someone who ran on a pledge to "drain the swamp" is then hounded and criticised by the swamp after he wins. I don't think that's a coincidence Following on from my previous post here are messages between FBI agents, recently released where they obviously don't personally like Trump, but more seriously they have discussed an event as an "insurance policy" in case he gets elected. "that there's no way he gets elected -- but I'm afraid we can't take that risk" What does that mean? Not doubting that there are personal biases among people working in different government institutions, Comey was a Republican for example and never hid that fact. Strzok clearly didn't like Trump, like the majority of Americans and said so in text messages. What I don't buy is that a major conspiracy has gone down with regards to an investigation, which Stzrok was removed from. The "insurance policy" could be a lot of things, but it was sent about a month after the whole Russia investigation began, so it's not like that kicked the whole thing off. The Trump camp was already doing some shady shit, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was basically saying the dirt we have on him will be necessary in the event he gets elected. Hillary paid for a dossier full of bullshit against Trump and then lied about it. Reported in October Reported in November The FBI dressed up the dossier and presented it to acquire permission to bug Trump and others. The dossier was submitted in August the same month that the investigation into Trump/Russia began. Strzok worked on all of these different investigations. Here's a look into his personal feelings about Trump... So Strzok doesn't like him. But don't you look at this information and think... This isn't right? This ones great...... "What fact pattern do you have to have?".....
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Dec 14, 2017 16:36:11 GMT
FAKE NEWS
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 16:57:02 GMT
Not doubting that there are personal biases among people working in different government institutions, Comey was a Republican for example and never hid that fact. Strzok clearly didn't like Trump, like the majority of Americans and said so in text messages. What I don't buy is that a major conspiracy has gone down with regards to an investigation, which Stzrok was removed from. The "insurance policy" could be a lot of things, but it was sent about a month after the whole Russia investigation began, so it's not like that kicked the whole thing off. The Trump camp was already doing some shady shit, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was basically saying the dirt we have on him will be necessary in the event he gets elected. Hillary paid for a dossier full of bullshit against Trump and then lied about it. Reported in October Reported in November The FBI dressed up the dossier and presented it to acquire permission to bug Trump and others. The dossier was submitted in August the same month that the investigation into Trump/Russia began. Strzok worked on all of these different investigations. Here's a look into his personal feelings about Trump... So Strzok doesn't like him. But don't you look at this information and think... This isn't right? This ones great...... "What fact pattern do you have to have?"..... so, they do an internal investigation, remove someone from it for sending text messages expressing their discontent with a candidate, and the result is to stop the investigation which clearly has merit as multiple members of the trump team have already been snagged? Nope. The criminals deserve prosecution. You can't close an investigation because you think one of about 20 members of the team don't like the guy at the center of the investigation, that would allow the shitbag to get off the hook without due process.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 17:36:04 GMT
Hillary paid for a dossier full of bullshit against Trump and then lied about it. Reported in October Reported in November The FBI dressed up the dossier and presented it to acquire permission to bug Trump and others. The dossier was submitted in August the same month that the investigation into Trump/Russia began. Strzok worked on all of these different investigations. Here's a look into his personal feelings about Trump... So Strzok doesn't like him. But don't you look at this information and think... This isn't right? This ones great...... "What fact pattern do you have to have?"..... so, they do an internal investigation, remove someone from it for sending text messages expressing their discontent with a candidate, and the result is to stop the investigation which clearly has merit as multiple members of the trump team have already been snagged? Nope. The criminals deserve prosecution. You can't close an investigation because you think one of about 20 members of the team don't like the guy at the center of the investigation, that would allow the shitbag to get off the hook without due process. Read what you've written ... "Clearly has merit" - how can it? It was started with bullshit dossier. Comey lied under oath and passed classified documents to a friend. "Multiple members" you mean three two for tax evasion and Flynn who was interviewed by Strzok!! Or, do you mean the 'professor' in London who knew some Russians? ;-) "Criminals" and "shitbags" - I don't think you need due process you've already made your mind up. Listen to Jim Gordon. If they dismissed the agents that didn't like Trump they wouldn't have any left in the case. That's not the news. There had to be something bigger to shift Strzok. You think Trump is a moron but Meuller has been on this since March and spent hundreds of millions. Either Trump is a master at the art of fooling the FB fucking I or there's nothing to find.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 17:41:06 GMT
so, they do an internal investigation, remove someone from it for sending text messages expressing their discontent with a candidate, and the result is to stop the investigation which clearly has merit as multiple members of the trump team have already been snagged? Nope. The criminals deserve prosecution. You can't close an investigation because you think one of about 20 members of the team don't like the guy at the center of the investigation, that would allow the shitbag to get off the hook without due process. Read what you've written ... "Clearly has merit" - how can it? It was started with bullshit dossier. Comey lied under oath. "Multiple members" 17 counts of conspiracy against the US and 4 charged with lying under oath, that's a big fucking deal. Also, It's not lying if he has a draft of something edited, the claim that Comey lied under oath is very dubious. Edit: also the dossier came out 2 months AFTER the investigation began. Therefore your claim that it started the whole thing is more bullshit.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 17:51:08 GMT
Read what you've written ... "Clearly has merit" - how can it? It was started with bullshit dossier. Comey lied under oath. "Multiple members" 17 counts of conspiracy against the US and 4 charged with lying under oath, that's a big fucking deal. Also, It's not lying if he has a draft of something edited, the claim that Comey lied under oath is very dubious. For tax evasion! Even Don Jr admits to talking to some about a shit file on Hillary. It's no secret and allowed in your politics. Opposition research or whatever it's called.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 17:54:45 GMT
17 counts of conspiracy against the US and 4 charged with lying under oath, that's a big fucking deal. Also, It's not lying if he has a draft of something edited, the claim that Comey lied under oath is very dubious. For tax evasion! Even Don Jr admits to talking to some about a shit file on Hillary. It's no secret and allowed in your politics. Opposition research or whatever it's called. But when Hillary does it (paying for the dossier) it's not okay?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 18:00:28 GMT
Read what you've written ... "Clearly has merit" - how can it? It was started with bullshit dossier. Comey lied under oath. "Multiple members" 17 counts of conspiracy against the US and 4 charged with lying under oath, that's a big fucking deal. Also, It's not lying if he has a draft of something edited, the claim that Comey lied under oath is very dubious. Edit: also the dossier came out 2 months AFTER the investigation began. Therefore your claim that it started the whole thing is more bullshit. He lied about Hillary's emails and server. He and the FBI never examined the servers they were held by a 3rd party security firm employed by Hillary and didn't hand them over to the FBI. Comey had to ask them questions and accept the answers they gave. Comey said he woke in the middle of the night and tweeted a reply to Trump about their meeting so his thoughts 'were out there in the public domain' but an article published the day before Trumps tweet has Comey admitting he had passed classified documents to a friend for safe keeping about the meeting.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 18:05:29 GMT
For tax evasion! Even Don Jr admits to talking to some about a shit file on Hillary. It's no secret and allowed in your politics. Opposition research or whatever it's called. But when Hillary does it (paying for the dossier) it's not okay? Hillary's fake dossier was jazzed up by the FBI and was the start of the Russian collision sham and on going attempt to oust the democratically elected President of the USA and Leader of the free World. Trump Jr suppisedly met a Russian lawyer who said he had some dirt on Hillary. It didn't go any further as far as we know. If Jr had bought some dirt you don't think Trump wouldn't have done a fucking power point demo with it during the campaign?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 18:07:10 GMT
17 counts of conspiracy against the US and 4 charged with lying under oath, that's a big fucking deal. Also, It's not lying if he has a draft of something edited, the claim that Comey lied under oath is very dubious. Edit: also the dossier came out 2 months AFTER the investigation began. Therefore your claim that it started the whole thing is more bullshit. He lied about Hillary's emails and server. He and the FBI never examined the servers they were held by a 3rd party security firm employed by Hillary and didn't hand them over to the FBI. Comey had to ask them questions and accept the answers they gave. Comey said he woke in the middle of the night and tweeted a reply to Trump about their meeting so his thoughts 'were out there in the public domain' but an article published the day before Trumps tweet has Comey admitting he had passed classified documents to a friend for safe keeping about the meeting. link to the article?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 18:10:10 GMT
But when Hillary does it (paying for the dossier) it's not okay? Hillary's fake dossier was jazzed up by the FBI and was the start of the Russian collision sham and on going attempt to oust the democratically elected President of the USA and Leader of the free World. It can't be the start if it was already happening. you really should stop reading Breitbart, it's fake news bud.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 18:18:08 GMT
so, they do an internal investigation, remove someone from it for sending text messages expressing their discontent with a candidate, and the result is to stop the investigation which clearly has merit as multiple members of the trump team have already been snagged? Nope. The criminals deserve prosecution. You can't close an investigation because you think one of about 20 members of the team don't like the guy at the center of the investigation, that would allow the shitbag to get off the hook without due process. Read what you've written ... "Clearly has merit" - how can it? It was started with bullshit dossier. Comey lied under oath and passed classified documents to a friend. "Multiple members" you mean three two for tax evasion and Flynn who was interviewed by Strzok!! Or, do you mean the 'professor' in London who knew some Russians? ;-) "Criminals" and "shitbags" - I don't think you need due process you've already made your mind up. Listen to Jim Gordon. If they dismissed the agents that didn't like Trump they wouldn't have any left in the case. That's not the news. There had to be something bigger to shift Strzok. You think Trump is a moron but Meuller has been on this since March and spent hundreds of millions. Either Trump is a master at the art of fooling the FB fucking I or there's nothing to find. FFS mueller is a republican! All indications are that he voted for Trump. Lol Jim Gordon is making a baseless claim. Which is all you have to go on for any of this. And yes it is true, I believe Trump is a shitbag, but I'm not going to live in a dream world where I can say he is or is not guilty of collusion until the investigation has run its course. That would be ridiculous. Kind of like saying its a sham because Trump, a guy who has lied (or at least spread blatant misinformation quite often) says so.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 18:19:51 GMT
Hillary's fake dossier was jazzed up by the FBI and was the start of the Russian collision sham and on going attempt to oust the democratically elected President of the USA and Leader of the free World. It can't be the start if it was already happening. you really should stop reading Breitbart, it's fake news bud. I was using live deposition from a few days ago. Watch the you tube again. The Russia/Trump investigation started in August 16. Jim Jordan suggests that was when the dossier was submitted as 'proof'. Guess what .... the FBI won't say when the dossier was submitted or by whom.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 18:25:12 GMT
It can't be the start if it was already happening. you really should stop reading Breitbart, it's fake news bud. I was using live deposition from a few days ago. Watch the you tube again. The Russia/Trump investigation started in August 16. Jim Jordan suggests that was when the dossier was submitted as 'proof'. Guess what .... the FBI won't say when the dossier was submitted or by whom. thats simply not true. The investigation began in July, this is well-documented..
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 18:27:20 GMT
Read what you've written ... "Clearly has merit" - how can it? It was started with bullshit dossier. Comey lied under oath and passed classified documents to a friend. "Multiple members" you mean three two for tax evasion and Flynn who was interviewed by Strzok!! Or, do you mean the 'professor' in London who knew some Russians? ;-) "Criminals" and "shitbags" - I don't think you need due process you've already made your mind up. Listen to Jim Gordon. If they dismissed the agents that didn't like Trump they wouldn't have any left in the case. That's not the news. There had to be something bigger to shift Strzok. You think Trump is a moron but Meuller has been on this since March and spent hundreds of millions. Either Trump is a master at the art of fooling the FB fucking I or there's nothing to find. FFS mueller is a republican! All indications are that he voted for Trump. Lol Jim Gordon is making a baseless claim. Which is all you have to go on for any of this. And yes it is true, I believe Trump is a shitbag, but I'm not going to live in a dream world where I can say he is or is not guilty of collusion until the investigation has run its course. That would be ridiculous. Kind of like saying its a sham because Trump, a guy who has lied (or at least spread blatant misinformation quite often) says so. And there you have it. You can't see past Meuller being a Republican. For you that's proof positive that he can't be against Trump and is neutral. He's part of the Deep State. The investigation running its course?? How long do you think that'll be another year? Two? Or never ending so they don't actually have to present fuck all but keep that cloud over Trump.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 18:28:46 GMT
I was using live deposition from a few days ago. Watch the you tube again. The Russia/Trump investigation started in August 16. Jim Jordan suggests that was when the dossier was submitted as 'proof'. Guess what .... the FBI won't say when the dossier was submitted or by whom. thats simply not true. The investigation began in July, this is well-documented.. Yikes. Well you better give Meuller a call with that Sherlock.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 18:40:40 GMT
thats simply not true. The investigation began in July, this is well-documented.. Yikes. Well you better give Meuller a call with that Sherlock. Look it up plank!
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 14, 2017 18:43:35 GMT
Net neutrality was just repealed. Another reason why Trump is a shitty president. How is that supposed to help us fight The Deep State??
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2017 18:59:12 GMT
Yikes. Well you better give Meuller a call with that Sherlock. Look it up plank! Plank :-) and you say Trump is the idiot !
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 15, 2017 11:53:55 GMT
He lied about Hillary's emails and server. He and the FBI never examined the servers they were held by a 3rd party security firm employed by Hillary and didn't hand them over to the FBI. Comey had to ask them questions and accept the answers they gave. Comey said he woke in the middle of the night and tweeted a reply to Trump about their meeting so his thoughts 'were out there in the public domain' but an article published the day before Trumps tweet has Comey admitting he had passed classified documents to a friend for safe keeping about the meeting. link to the article? Never had the physical servers Comey's NYT articles and his tweet Comey Almost Definitely Leaked Twice, and Therefore Lied to Congress - Medium Congress has to serve the FBI to receive documents. At 02:50 "the Director [Comey] made principled decisions about what to say to congress when he was here and what to provide to congress" .... ????
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 15, 2017 15:15:15 GMT
so, he never lied about the servers, he used information from a third party that does forensic investigations on servers. The Chaffetz video is laughable because he supoenas redacted info, personally identifiable stuff, which made no difference to the investigation. Instead the FBI had to go back and provide all the documents over again so Chaffetz could have his sound byte. Speaking of Chaffetz, why, as chairman of the house oversight committee, did he refuse review Trumps conflicts of interest? There's plenty of evidence, it's because he's a part of the swamp. He was called to dinner with Trump, and the next day announced they would not be looking into it. As for the May 11th article saying that Comey met with Trump, who demanded loyalty, followed by a tweet alluding to Comey leaking, and Comey's verified leak on the 16th; if the original article is to be believed then could it not have come from two associates as the May 11th article suggested? If so, then he wouldn't have been lying. And since the article expressedly says that, I see no perjury case happening. Additionally, the memos are not classified and therefore he was free to share that info with anyone at anytime. Problem was Trump couldn't get "loyalty" from Comey, so he fired him on May 9 which kicked off the call for a special counsel. Here's a video of Comey's actual testimony, where he confirms the leak AFTER being dismissed (which happened on May 9th, two days before the NYT article) and this is the problem I have with Trump and all his crybaby behavior, he gets so upset about everyone treating him "unfairly" but he isn't transparent. If he'd come clean, release his tax returns, testify that he had no contact with the Russians, and release his White House visitor log, then we could put this whole thing to bed. Instead we get Trumptards complaining about how the real problem is Hillary Clinton's emails and Comey. Instead of focusing on how he has done nothing wrong it's "But they did something wrong!"
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 15, 2017 15:52:47 GMT
so, he never lied about the servers, he used information from a third party that does forensic investigations on servers. The Chaffetz video is laughable because he supoenas redacted info, personally identifiable stuff, which made no difference to the investigation. Instead the FBI had to go back and provide all the documents over again so Chaffetz could have his sound byte. Speaking of Chaffetz, why, as chairman of the house oversight committee, did he refuse review Trumps conflicts of interest? There's plenty of evidence, it's because he's a part of the swamp. He was called to dinner with Trump, and the next day announced they would not be looking into it. As for the May 11th article saying that Comey met with Trump, who demanded loyalty, followed by a tweet alluding to Comey leaking, and Comey's verified leak on the 16th; if the original article is to be believed then could it not have come from two associates as the May 11th article suggested? If so, then he wouldn't have been lying. And since the article expressedly says that, I see no perjury case happening. Additionally, the memos are not classified and therefore he was free to share that info with anyone at anytime. Problem was Trump couldn't get "loyalty" from Comey, so he fired him on May 9 which kicked off the call for a special counsel. Here's a video of Comey's actual testimony, where he confirms the leak AFTER being dismissed (which happened on May 9th, two days before the NYT article) and this is the problem I have with Trump and all his crybaby behavior, he gets so upset about everyone treating him "unfairly" but he isn't transparent. If he'd come clean, release his tax returns, testify that he had no contact with the Russians, and release his White House visitor log, then we could put this whole thing to bed. Instead we get Trumptards complaining about how the real problem is Hillary Clinton's emails and Comey. Instead of focusing on how he has done nothing wrong it's "But they did something wrong!" Whatever. You can spin it whichever way you want but for you to dismiss the FACT that your FBI were refused access to Hilary's servers because the DNC had employed a 3rd party security company I think is bizarre. Comey leaked memo's to the press via a law professor friend. Memo's that he wrote himself. His story is all what he thought and what he think Donald means by "loyalty". When Trump says "hopes" Comey said he took that as an order. That's not proof that's personal opinion. Comey was sacked because the Clinton email investigation was a clusterfuck that ended up with the FBI not having the physical servers, Hillary's lawyers forensically cleansing her emails and BILL Clinton's 'advisers' taking hammers to Hillary's hard drives. You're obviously happy with all that because you think Trump is a scumbag. Again, I don't agree with your logic. Last couple of videos..... Who Is Daniel Richman, the Columbia Professor Who Leaked Comey’s Trump Memo? - NBC News
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 15, 2017 15:59:06 GMT
so, he never lied about the servers, he used information from a third party that does forensic investigations on servers. The Chaffetz video is laughable because he supoenas redacted info, personally identifiable stuff, which made no difference to the investigation. Instead the FBI had to go back and provide all the documents over again so Chaffetz could have his sound byte. Speaking of Chaffetz, why, as chairman of the house oversight committee, did he refuse review Trumps conflicts of interest? There's plenty of evidence, it's because he's a part of the swamp. He was called to dinner with Trump, and the next day announced they would not be looking into it. As for the May 11th article saying that Comey met with Trump, who demanded loyalty, followed by a tweet alluding to Comey leaking, and Comey's verified leak on the 16th; if the original article is to be believed then could it not have come from two associates as the May 11th article suggested? If so, then he wouldn't have been lying. And since the article expressedly says that, I see no perjury case happening. Additionally, the memos are not classified and therefore he was free to share that info with anyone at anytime. Problem was Trump couldn't get "loyalty" from Comey, so he fired him on May 9 which kicked off the call for a special counsel. Here's a video of Comey's actual testimony, where he confirms the leak AFTER being dismissed (which happened on May 9th, two days before the NYT article) and this is the problem I have with Trump and all his crybaby behavior, he gets so upset about everyone treating him "unfairly" but he isn't transparent. If he'd come clean, release his tax returns, testify that he had no contact with the Russians, and release his White House visitor log, then we could put this whole thing to bed. Instead we get Trumptards complaining about how the real problem is Hillary Clinton's emails and Comey. Instead of focusing on how he has done nothing wrong it's "But they did something wrong!" Whatever. You can spin it whichever way you want but for you to dismiss the FACT that your FBI were refused access to Hilary's servers because the DNC had employed a 3rd party security company I think is bizarre. Comey leaked memo's to the press via a law professor friend. Memo's that he wrote himself. His story is all what he thought and what he think Donald means by "loyalty". When Trump says "hopes" Comey said he took that as an order. That's not proof that's personal opinion. Comey was sacked because the Clinton email investigation was a clusterfuck that ended up with the FBI not having the physical servers, Hillary's lawyers forensically cleansing her emails and BILL Clinton's 'advisers' taking hammers to Hillary's hard drives. You're obviously happy with all that because you think Trump is a scumbag. Again, I don't agree with your logic. Last couple of videos..... Who Is Daniel Richman, the Columbia Professor Who Leaked Comey’s Trump Memo? - NBC Newshow do you feel about Trump supporting the repeal of net neutrality? Not disclosing his financial papers? Not letting the public know who he meets in the Oval Office? What's your logic in defending all that?
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